Italian M13/40

[ripley]

The "word" is Italians in Africa , as that's where they were more  active . I'm sure some figures would cross over to the mainland battles , just like the plastic  Jerry Para box has a mix of early and late unis . All just wild guesses at the moment , who knows what and when Warlord will release . It took them almost a year to get their Kelly's Heroes figures out from when we first saw the "greens ". I find it funny that Perry didn't release a plastic set though , but they do have metal Italians that look very nice , if you like metals . No idea on any points value for anything as I don't play , I just build models 

[Pinky]

An M13/40 is 98 (inexperienced) 125 (regular) 152 (veteran).  The same as a Panzer III Ausf F (in 1st edition Armies of Germany).

[ultravanillasmurf]

An M13/40 is 98 (inexperienced) 125 (regular) 152 (veteran).  The same as a Panzer III Ausf F (in 1st edition Armies of Germany).

Thanks.

Any idea of the British equivalent? I am on-site at the moment so no access to my copy of the British lists.

[ripley]

Crusader 1 with the 2pdr , and  maybe the Valentine, again with the 2 pr

[Pinky]

Any idea of the British equivalent? I am on-site at the moment so no access to my copy of the British lists.

No - I don't seem to have the British Army book.  Nor do I have Duel in the Sun - I must get that one!

[ultravanillasmurf]

Crusader 1 with the 2pdr , and  maybe the Valentine, again with the 2 pr

Cool, thanks.

[Pinky]

A Crusader I is 108/135/162.  I think that's the same as the M14/41.

[ultravanillasmurf]

Might be worth checking out the Toy fair reports.
http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=97705.msg1211951#msg1211951

[Rubicon Models]

Might be worth checking out the Toy fair reports.
http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?topic=97705.msg1211951#msg1211951

This is good news, can take some pressure from us to do Italians.  They should be the expert, lol.

Doing some more google search... think those are 1/72 placed besides some existing 1/56 tanks.  The only new one is the IS2/JS2...

[Patrick R]

If people actually used their eyes rather than their desires they would notice that the Matilda and 88mm are part of the 1/72nd Arras set.

I'd venture that the whole row of Stug, Semovente, M13 and 88mm are in fact 1/72nd scale models, judging by the size and pose of the infantry figures.

There was a rumour from Warlord that an Italian vehicle was in the making.  Given that most of the Warlord/Italeri models announced for 2017 have already been released or about to be released we should expect to see something in the remaining 9-10 months of 2017 ...

[Ballardian]

 I'll certainly put my hand up to a bit of wishful thinking, the Matlidas were at the front of the case, level with the 1/56 M10, & looked a little large for 1/72.
However, they are, as said by Patrick R, part of their 1/72 range (gropes around for excuse, finds none, bugger...)

[Rubicon Models]

Think this will explain themselves...

[ripley]

Hmm ,the 1st group ( left ) is 3 X Churchill ( 1 with deep wadding trunks - new ? ) , a M4 , Panther and the 2 versions of the M8 AC . Middle- KV I/II , M3 Stuart ,Hellcat , a JS ( wow  ! ) , Right - M4 , Pzr III , Puma , Stug , Tiger , Churchill , M10 . . The far right stuff is all 1/72 - Bummer 

[Pinky]

I had my hopes up there for a bit, but realised that the StuGs on the right are too small to also be 1/56, which meant the Italian tanks aren't either and must be 1/72 (I bet they the old ESCI kits).  Then I saw they had the same Italian tanks on display last year.  Italeri are always doing things like this. 

However, I think the Matilda nearer the camera is a 1/56 scale model.  Perspective doesn't explain the size difference, and it seems to have Warlord 28mm figures beside it (the other figures are clearly 1/72).

Here's a clearer photo that seems to prove it:

[Rubicon Models]

Sorry to disappoint you all... All these are, in fact, part of the Italeri "Battle of Arras 1940" 1:72 scale Battle Set.
Here is the store link that listed all the components:

http://shop.italeri.com/Products/21830-6118-wwii-battleset-1940-battle-of-arras-rommel-of.aspx