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Re: M5A1 Stuart / M8 Scott - Updated with Painted Plastic
« Reply #75 on: July 26, 2015, 11:53:08 pm »
Not perfect, but we have replaced the "HOTHEAD" and French flag with the UK Armoured Guards and US Armored Division insignia.  Also, we've changed the black coloured tank number to "blue drab" just to see how it will shown up on printed decal.

We figured not a major issue as we will be producing more decals later on...  Will need to send this to the printer for sample run before final production.  We still can make amendments before final production run!



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Re: M5A1 Stuart / M8 Scott - Updated with Painted Plastic
« Reply #76 on: July 27, 2015, 12:54:25 am »
Since you include the british squad markings and weight discs, it would be useful to also have the regimental markings... you know, the red squares with 50, 51, 52, 53 and 54 on (for armoured divisions). I realise this will be a generic sheet, but seems like they would be necessary. Perhaps delete a few of the weight discs to make room?



(Note, I'm not suggesting including all of the above.)

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Re: M5A1 Stuart / M8 Scott - Updated with Painted Plastic
« Reply #77 on: July 27, 2015, 12:57:17 am »
Laffe, the regimental and armoured division markings will be on our next British ONLY decal sheet for the A15 Crusader.

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Re: M5A1 Stuart / M8 Scott - Updated with Painted Plastic
« Reply #78 on: July 27, 2015, 12:59:41 am »
It's still a rather eclectic mixture...

- the 1st Armoured symbol wasn't used on tanks - US Army vehicles used a system of codes for divisional, regimental etc. markings.
- maybe get rid of the Free French symbols, and replace them with another large yellow callsign?
- most of those bridging plates are for soft-skins.  Will you really be including this set of decals with future soft-skin kits?

I agree with Laffe's suggestion.  Another British divisional sign, and a couple of sets of regimental markings would make the decal sheet more useful.


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Re: M5A1 Stuart / M8 Scott - Updated with Painted Plastic
« Reply #79 on: July 27, 2015, 01:01:43 am »
I was thinking of just the squares... I know it's a space issue... but since you included the squadron markings. Seems like you only include half what would be necessary, but a lot of surplus double stuff.

Seems like most UK and commonwealth division used the same structure... 50 was the armoured brigade HQ, 51-54 was the different batallions.

Found a picture of the Guards armoured order of battle.

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Re: M5A1 Stuart / M8 Scott - Updated with Painted Plastic
« Reply #80 on: July 27, 2015, 01:07:36 am »
Thanks, Laffe.  It was suggested we should started by doing the RED square with 50 to 54 on it, and half of the problem will get solved.

Will do overtime again tonight before the morning production meeting...  let's see what can be done!

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Re: M5A1 Stuart / M8 Scott - Updated with Painted Plastic
« Reply #81 on: July 27, 2015, 01:12:22 am »
Thanks, Laffe.  It was suggested we should started by doing the RED square with 50 to 54 on it, and half of the problem will get solved.

Will do overtime again tonight before the morning production meeting...  let's see what can be done!

Yeah, that's exactly what I meant.

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Re: M5A1 Stuart / M8 Scott - Updated with Painted Plastic
« Reply #82 on: July 27, 2015, 01:37:22 am »
Pretty much happy with what was done here!



Any more changes?


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Re: M5A1 Stuart / M8 Scott - Updated with Painted Plastic
« Reply #83 on: July 27, 2015, 10:00:27 am »
Any more changes?

Yes - replace the US Armoured Division symbol, for the reason I mentioned above.  I suggest you replace it with another British armoured formation sign (for a formation which served in NW Europe - 7th or 8th Armoured Brigade or 11 Armoured Division - since these might have used M5A1s).  And replace the Free French symbol, which is largely useless without all the other French markings.  How about the callsign for an M8?  "Laxative" (the most frequently photographed M8) is below.  Otherwise it seems to be a much more comprehensive set of decals (you sure work fast!).
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Re: M5A1 Stuart / M8 Scott - Updated with Painted Plastic
« Reply #84 on: July 27, 2015, 10:08:59 am »
Will look into it... production meetings today!

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Re: M5A1 Stuart / M8 Scott - Updated with Painted Plastic
« Reply #85 on: July 28, 2015, 06:33:59 pm »
Had basically redo the whole decal sheet just for the M5A1/M8.  Had included:
- All American & Allies Stars for the war period
- Call signs
- Vehicle Names
- American / British / French markings
- Vehicle Specs for late war
- Bridge Plates



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Re: M5A1 Stuart / M8 Scott - Updated with Painted Plastic
« Reply #86 on: July 28, 2015, 08:53:50 pm »
Wow, that's quite a makeover.  Nice work.

You still have the US Armoured Division sign (the red, blue and yellow triangle).  This was a shoulder patch, and didn't appear on vehicles.

The large stars you had were good - they appeared on the glacis and turret roof of both M5A1s and M8s.  Oh well...

One of the names seems to be "Corse".  Is that correct?  Should it be "Carol"?

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Re: M5A1 Stuart / M8 Scott - Updated with Painted Plastic
« Reply #87 on: July 28, 2015, 09:02:47 pm »
Greyhounds have the US armoured logo on..

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Re: M5A1 Stuart / M8 Scott - Updated with Painted Plastic
« Reply #88 on: July 28, 2015, 09:16:13 pm »
That's a restored vehicle - you can't rely on what people do when they restore vehicles.

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Re: M5A1 Stuart / M8 Scott - Updated with Painted Plastic
« Reply #89 on: July 29, 2015, 03:10:29 pm »
You still have the US Armoured Division sign (the red, blue and yellow triangle).  This was a shoulder patch, and didn't appear on vehicles.
Some did appeared on tanks towards the end of the war.  We need to include them to test how it will come out from such a small scale.  Had plans for more complicated decals later.

The large stars you had were good - they appeared on the glacis and turret roof of both M5A1s and M8s.  Oh well...
The large stars won't fit on the glacis and turret roof of the M5A1... we tried.  However, these medium size one will!

One of the names seems to be "Corse".  Is that correct?  Should it be "Carol"?
It was French, in English is Corsica.  Corsica is an island in the Mediterranean Sea belonging to France. It is located west of the Italian Peninsula, southeast of the French mainland, and north of the Italian island of Sardinia. Mountains make up two-thirds of the island, forming a single chain.

The name is part of the decal set included for a M5A1 French tank.  The size of the decal fitted the remaining space we had.  ;)