On the Drawing Board - UPDATED 160830

[Yaquir]

I agree, looks like a Jeep wheel. That would be great.

[Rubicon Models]

This is something we feel very exciting!

[stevepalffy]

222....?

[ripley]

Very nice . You might want to check the gunner and loader seats . IRC they are round in shape  not those bucket type seats Tamiya has in their kits   

[Rubicon Models]

Very nice . You might want to check the gunner and loader seats . IRC they are round in shape  not those bucket type seats Tamiya has in their kits   

We have studied Panzer Tracts 13-1 (SdKfz 222) especially on the seats; and if they are correct, the 2 seats "with backrest" has been fitted on both Sockelafette versions, from the 1st till 4th production run vehicles and the one with "bar seat" only from 5th production run on...  Therefore, the bucket seat could be a safe assumption.  Comments?

[Pinky]

The only photo I could find of a real one:

[Pinky]

Here's the Tristar SdKfz 222 gun mount (from the PPMS site), which is supposed to be accurate.

This is for the SdKfz 250/9, right?  In which case it would be a late production type SdKfz 222 turret.

[Rubicon Models]

Here's the Tristar SdKfz 222 gun mount (from the PPMS site), which is supposed to be accurate.

There had been debates on the accuracy of the Tristar / Hobbyboss kit. We have double check most available references, and the "bucket seat x2" seems to be a fail-safe assumption.

[moiterei_1984]

@Pinky:
Imho the first picture posted by you clearly shows the two 'bucket' seats.

[Pinky]

I couldn't make the seats out in that photo.  I just posted what I found - I don't know the answer on this one.

[ripley]

I wonder if the different style of seats relates to which of the four manufacturers  built this vehicle  as well as to which of the  seven production runs it was built in  ?  I'm thinking bucket seats in 1936 , and ending up with simpler round seats by end of production in June 1943 . The Germans did make things simpler and cruder in detail as the war dragged on , ex MG 42 . Lots of stamped and spot welded sheet metal , with plastic / bakelite stock and pistol grip  . Any thoughts ?

[Pinky]

That all makes sense.  I trawled through everything I could find on the SdKfz 250/9 (which is what I assume this for) and couldn't find a clear photo of the interior.  I did find one with what looked like twin 'bucket' seats, but it really wasn't easy to make out.  I would guess that, as part of the simplification process Ripley mentions, producing bucket seats out of pressed metal was probably easier.

[Rubicon Models]

Have not update this topic for a long while...  Have some fun here!


Enjoy!

[stevepalffy]

Nice Maultier !

[Yaquir]

A universal carrier.