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Title: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: Rubicon Models on December 24, 2017, 02:04:36 PM
In collaboration with Heer46, we are bringing you the Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger with 8.8 cm PaK 43 L/71 for the Wehrmacht in resin.  The Waffenträger will be release in Q1/18 in limited quantity from Heer46 and via our US webstore.

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Heer46%20Figures/Heer46%20Krupp-Steyr%20Waffentraumlger%20171221-01_zps1pu3hqvm.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Heer46%20Figures/Heer46%20Krupp-Steyr%20Waffentraumlger%20171221-02_zpsahdxduil.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Heer46%20Figures/Heer46%20Krupp-Steyr%20Waffentraumlger%20171221-03_zpsuqfrxoaa.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Heer46%20Figures/Heer46%20Krupp-Steyr%20Waffentraumlger%20171221-04_zpshgiwdqug.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Heer46%20Figures/Heer46%20Krupp-Steyr%20Waffentraumlger%20171221-05_zpspezmtas4.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Heer46%20Figures/Heer46%20Krupp-Steyr%20Waffentraumlger%20171221-06_zpstr3fbpl4.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Heer46%20Figures/Heer46%20Krupp-Steyr%20Waffentraumlger%20171221-07_zps0kcdlcex.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Heer46%20Figures/Heer46%20Krupp-Steyr%20Waffentraumlger%20171221-08_zpsc3u5tthp.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on December 24, 2017, 04:49:11 PM
Interesting move.
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: elias.tibbs on December 24, 2017, 05:03:30 PM
Interesting move.

From what I can see, heer46 is the customer and Rubicon is the company contracted  to create the model for them and making the master model. This seems to be separate from any of their own kits.

Rubicon are a design company afterall ;) I think that’s why they push the boundaries of model making so much as their 1/56 plastic range essentially becomes their portfolio.
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on December 24, 2017, 05:21:47 PM
This is slightly different in that their US distribution is getting into the act.

Previously the only contract work they have shown was the T26 master, though there is plenty of mentions of the effects of the contract work.

http://forum.rubiconmodels.com/index.php?topic=231.msg2094#msg2094 (http://forum.rubiconmodels.com/index.php?topic=231.msg2094#msg2094)

As I said an interesting move and one to be applauded.
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ripley on December 24, 2017, 11:05:54 PM
Hmm , that's interesting . Nice looking piece of resin . The late - late war , paper panzer stuff is not my cup but I know a few guys who will be wetting themselves with excitement   ::)   IRC the Germans also had / planed a 6 wheel version of this thing with a 128mm gun . I wonder how the crew crew would service the gun in that tiny turret with those large shells ? 
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: Pinky on December 25, 2017, 11:07:02 AM
You should promote this to the World of Tanks fanbase.  Millions of potential sales there...
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on March 18, 2018, 10:31:12 PM
Will you have this at Salute this year?
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: Rubicon Models on March 18, 2018, 10:43:49 PM
Will you have this at Salute this year?

We are making arrangement for this.  :)
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on March 18, 2018, 11:24:21 PM
Will you have this at Salute this year?

We are making arrangement for this.  :)
Cool.

Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: Ballardian on March 21, 2018, 02:13:22 AM

 Cool indeed, I hope there's some left by the time I get there.
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 15, 2018, 01:05:50 AM
I got mine.

I have to remind myself that it is resin and not polystyrene/ABS.

Are there any instructions?

Not sure how the gun is mounted in the turret.
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: Ballardian on April 15, 2018, 03:34:01 AM
 I got one too, it's a beautiful casting, really clean & straight (the turret needs a little tweak out at the top).
 Admittedly, slightly more comprehensive instructions would have helped make how to mount the gun more obvious - but when you refer back to the images in this thread it becomes more apparent. The two small rectangular panels fit on the inside of the turrets front facing - they can only go one way - with the small pins sticking out into the turret's interior - the gun mounts onto these, with the two small studs on the sides of the gun mount outside the turret. Now I'd like to find some crew - it'll be tricky as there really isn't much room in there, but it'd give it more life than putting the lid on.
 Hope thats of some use :)
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 15, 2018, 03:48:20 AM
Thanks.

I did not have any instructions
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: Captain Blood on April 15, 2018, 06:50:59 AM
I got all the French resin vehicles. Instructions inside the lid in each box. Stupid question I know, but did you check inside the lid?  :)

The casting quality really is superb. If I didn’t know it was resin, I’d have said it was plastic. Totally lightweight and wonderfully sharp detail. Absolutely top notch. Can’t wait to get started on them  :)
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 15, 2018, 02:19:19 PM
@CaptainBlood: the box is empty on my desk as I type and it is not in either of the two sets of French decals (DCFR001) that were in there.

I agree it is an amazing casting, it is drying after the customary wash.

@Ballardian: now you have pointed them out, I see what you mean about the gun mount.

So, has anyone thought about their colour scheme?

So far I have seen:

Yellow with and without camouflage.
Yellow hull, primer turret (with or without camouflaged barrel).
Primer (again with or without camouflaged barrel).
Grey/bare metal.
Green with camouflage.
UN white (!).
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: Rubicon Models on April 15, 2018, 05:33:14 PM
I did not have any instructions

Seems like there is a packing error. After your report, we have checked all our packaging for the Waffenträger, there are no instruction but have included a French vehicle decal sheet (which should not be there).  We are now addressing the issue.
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: Rubicon Models on April 15, 2018, 05:41:50 PM
Here is the instruction in case someone needs it...

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Heer46%20Figures/Krupp-Steyr%20Waffentraumlger%20Manual%20180110-p1_zpsweyeo3an.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Heer46%20Figures/Krupp-Steyr%20Waffentraumlger%20Manual%20180110-p2_zps9llhfycv.jpg)

;)
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 15, 2018, 08:26:00 PM
Thanks.
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: Ballardian on April 15, 2018, 09:53:01 PM
 I have to say that the instuction leaflet did rather leave you to intiut what went where, though the very low parts count meant this mattered rather less - still, pointing out where the gun mount attachments went would probably have been helpful (it only became apparent once I looked at the larger images on this thread - still, great model).
 The inclusion of the French decal sheet was a surprise, I suppose I'll have to get some french vehicles to put them on now!
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So, has anyone thought about their colour scheme?
UVS, as the great sage once said, "the world is your lobster".
I suppose it depends if you want to represent the prototype pushed into service, or a 'prodution' model. The photos of the actual vehicle, being B&W don't really help - it's a uniform colour & if I had to guess I'd say it was either the Parkerised anti-rust finish (a pale grey as depicted on the Trumpeter model's box art) or that plus the ubiquitous red-oxide primer. The very dark finish at the gun's pivot point is anyone's guess & the gun barrel seems to be Dunkelgelb, probably taken from an existing vehicle or towed piece.
 Here's a nice scheme on an earlier version in a Resedegrun base with Dunkelgelb patterning (broadly the scheme I plan to steal).
 
(https://s9.postimg.cc/ul3olbn5n/Waffentrager_8.8cm_Pa_K43_later_type_5jpg.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ul3olbn5n/)

Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ripley on April 15, 2018, 10:24:22 PM
If it's  going to be a late war " 47 " type vehicle , how about borrowing the urban cammo used on the Berlin Chieftains ?
(https://s7.postimg.cc/lgtoz0bwn/chieftain_mk_III_urban_camo.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/lgtoz0bwn/)
Oh course UN white would look good as well  ;D
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: Ballardian on April 16, 2018, 12:37:16 AM

 I also have a question - does anyone know how the shell splinter screen would have attached to the turret (on the real vehicle).
 I've never seen a picture of the prototype with one, so I wondered if anyone was familiar with the 1/35 kits out there & did they include one, showing how it was attached (hinged at the front or back or might it have split like those found on armoured cars) ?
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ripley on April 16, 2018, 01:05:15 AM
Looking at the pictures in Enc of German Tanks WWII , it doesn't seem to have a roof . I would think that it would have just a tarp over the top . IRC the gun sight was a periscope type  ( like in Stug / Nashorn ) not in the the mantlet  so itw ould need sliding plates to move with the sight if roofed ( like Hetzer ) . Plus how would the crew get in this thing ,? No hatches in turret side or rear  . So its like the Whirbelwind , just  climb over the sides . This is a late last ditch , type of vehicle , tested Apr. 27 - 1945 ?
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 16, 2018, 05:13:59 AM
The Bradford book has the gun shield type with a sight through the shield.

My thought is to put in traversing and elevation wheels and a sight.

The sight only needs to move vertically (unlike the casement mount tank destroyers). Not sure what would happen if you fired a broadside!

The top cover would give you appalling situational awareness.

You could use it like the lids on M36s.






Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ripley on April 16, 2018, 10:05:03 AM
A couple of versions made , this one by Ardelt  has  open gun crew area  like a Marder III , gun sight through shield
(https://s7.postimg.cc/ru5ggne87/0c7e66882fe35f5057b8fd40976b7cf4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ru5ggne87/)
The turret version was made by Steyr , note gun sight protruding above the turret top and no sight hole in turret front
(https://s7.postimg.cc/i9ltttemf/tumblr_omy2sn7_Egn1tcucayo1_500_LI.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/i9ltttemf/)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/lggddg6s7/s_x2_LI.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/lggddg6s7/)
These turrets are full width of the hull, the kit turret turret is smaller , was there more than one style of turret? There are pictures of few different open gun crew shield  versions , maybe all one off test models ? Maybe the same with the turret version ?
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 16, 2018, 03:30:58 PM
The turreted one looks like it is on a different chassis (asymmetric glacis).

Acting Panzer implies it is based on the 38(t), the photograph matches.
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/entwicklung-series-standard-series.htm (http://www.achtungpanzer.com/entwicklung-series-standard-series.htm)

The problem is that it has had the background removed so any sights above the turret may have been lost.

There is a small photograph on the Heer46 site for this model:
http://www.heer46shop.de/49367//krupp-waffentraeger--156 (http://www.heer46shop.de/49367//krupp-waffentraeger--156)
But there is a lot of background clutter above the turret. It looks like the original of the Trumpeter box art.

Any kit photographs of course could just be repeating earlier errors.

Nonsolopanzer has some of the Trumpeter instructions but not the turret ones, the assembled turret has no sight hole in the turret.https://nonsolopanzer.com/2015/11/14/krupp-steyr-waffentrager-mit-pak-43-135-trumpeter-kit-code-02347/ (https://nonsolopanzer.com/2015/11/14/krupp-steyr-waffentrager-mit-pak-43-135-trumpeter-kit-code-02347/)

There is a photograph of the Trumpeter turret basket here:http://www.panzer-modell.de/berichte/krupp-steyr-wt/ks-wt.php (http://www.panzer-modell.de/berichte/krupp-steyr-wt/ks-wt.php)
He also mentions Panzer Tracts Issue 7-3 which might have information (the site is in German and Google barely translates it).
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 16, 2018, 04:12:04 PM
Okay I have found a review of the Panzer Tracts with the following information:
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"8.8 cm Waffentraeger" actually covers 4 different vehicles.
...
"Steyr" covers a Steyr chassis with Krupp gun. Only a prototype was built. There are 7 photos and a 4 view plan.
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ripley on April 16, 2018, 08:19:51 PM
Yea some pictures show two driver hoods , some only one . Guess the 4 versions were probably 4 different companies prototypes , and from certain angles in the pictures they look alike ( at least to me ) . Wouldn't be surprised if they even swapped turrets around to see what worked best .
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: Ballardian on April 16, 2018, 09:41:04 PM

 I've never found a photo of the Krupp-Steyr version with the splinter screen (the only ones I have seen seem to have been taken on a single occasion, given the background, lighting etc.)  - but have seen a drawing from early in the design stage (if I can find it again I'll add it to the thread). As it would appear that the Trumpeter kit doesn't include it it looks like no answer can be forthcoming.
UVS - in the form presented it'd definitely prevent anyone seeing out of the vehicle - but as it didn't seem to feature on the prototype, what form it'd actually have taken is anyone's guess.
 Do you think the crew from the plastic WG Marder would fit (perhaps with a little alteration?)

(https://s9.postimg.cc/w2gv8dg7v/Waffentrager_8.8cm_Pa_K43_final_type_Krupp_Steyr_3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/w2gv8dg7v/)



(https://s9.postimg.cc/5heccu0zv/Waffentrager_8.8cm_Pa_K43_final_type_Krupp_Steyr_4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5heccu0zv/)



(https://s9.postimg.cc/f1xyzqswr/Waffentrager_8.8cm_Pa_K43_final_type_Krupp_Steyr_5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/f1xyzqswr/)
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 16, 2018, 10:37:25 PM
@Ballardian: that might work, though you would probably need to build a turret basket of some kind. The gunner would then fit from below. The loader might fit from above if you fix the gun and have the loader with the round part in the breech. The U shaped piece (below the gun in the photograph).
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7TtfXplw-BM/WtI-RcK4WqI/AAAAAAAADjg/vRSQTlAUlJUW0NpyR0dEjkqiBmRj3W8bQCLcBGAs/s1600/waffentrager2.png)
Does occupy a lot of the space, fitting a commander in would be difficult.

I will try and put something together later and photograph it.

Thanks for the photographs. Is that a cable hanging off the back of the turret?

Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: Ballardian on April 17, 2018, 01:12:11 AM

 UVS - yes, there appears to be a cable that is either draped over the vehicle or is coming out of the turret - either way I don't think that it's part of the vehicle.
 Interestingly, in the background of the second picture you can see the guns from at least two others - they appear to be awaiting mounting, with one on one of the typical turret rigs.
 I really would like to fit some turret crew, (giving the model more 'life') so two crew, who appeared to sit quite far forward in the turret on either side of the gun are going to have to be jammed in there somehow.
 I don't know whether the commander would be turret crew (& hence doubling as loader or gunner) or in one of the forward positions - there's certainly not room for three in that turret.
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 17, 2018, 05:56:43 AM
Here is the gunner tucked under the gun.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jSMZB0AUiXk/WtUa5XPuCwI/AAAAAAAADnc/UxyXi3IZ3GM9SHne5ydcMgZJ_O49kZkmgCLcBGAs/s1600/waffentrager6.png)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ufCq4rM8kNo/WtUa5S1snQI/AAAAAAAADnY/LaOkyOpa6GY-tTpOpNeC-HpbqJxuIrzhQCLcBGAs/s1600/waffentrager7.png)

I cannot get the loader in place.
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ripley on April 17, 2018, 08:05:44 AM
Do you have any of the Rubicon figures from their Half Track add on kits , They should be slim enough to fit if you place their chest toward the gun breech , just adjust the head to be sort of looking forward .  You could also just build up a rectanguler shaped box , round both sides of one end ( for  shoulders ) and add a spare head , from a top view  it will look like a crew man . I managed to get a commander in the BA T-34/85 hatch . He's just a couple of short pieces of plastic strip , the top one shorter than the bottom one , giving the  idea of a  shoulder  , than added an arm and head
(https://s7.postimg.cc/4mylnzsgn/IMG_20180416_180142953.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4mylnzsgn/)

(https://s7.postimg.cc/u5qy116vr/IMG_20180416_180236310.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/u5qy116vr/)
In your turret the loader would be as far to the rear as possible , that L71 gun had long ammo , you could notch a plastic upper torso so it fits partly over the interior turret race . This thing would have been used as a long range sniper , big hard hitting gun , very light armor a lot like a supersized Hellcat , doing the old shoot and scoot  probably the commander would have been out of the turret  looking for victims ,and places to move the vehicle to set up the next ambush . Have no idea why the pictures show the gun with that high elevation , its an anti tank gun not a howitzer . Of coarse  they could have planned to mount both guns in the vehicle model  like the Nashorn / Hummel
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 17, 2018, 03:49:33 PM
If it's  going to be a late war " 47 " type vehicle , how about borrowing the urban cammo used on the Berlin Chieftains ?
(https://s7.postimg.cc/lgtoz0bwn/chieftain_mk_III_urban_camo.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/lgtoz0bwn/)
I did wonder about a Mondrian pattern (somewhere I have a 1/60 scale Brocken military Labor(sic)  armed with a 105mm MG42 in a Mondrian pattern camo).

I wondered about an Ambush camo with a grey and brown palette.
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: Ballardian on April 18, 2018, 12:50:45 AM
 Many thanks UVS & Ripley, it doesn't look like the gunner is too much of a challenge to fit in - the loader however... It's possible that I'll go with something akin to Ripley's suggestion -  possibly a figure cut down to head, shoulders & upper torso (since you won't see much else anyway). The loaders position in this vehicle looks like a nightmare anyway (as is demonstrated on the Trumpeter kit).

(https://s9.postimg.cc/s0vp1t95n/Waffentrager_8.8cm_Pa_K43_Krupp_Steyr_turret_layout_close_up_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/s0vp1t95n/)



(https://s9.postimg.cc/tsonwq7y3/Waffentrager_8.8cm_Pa_K43_Krupp_Steyr_turret_layout_close_up_2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tsonwq7y3/)

 Or there's the Heer 46 approach with the crew exposed - I think this is the 15mm version.


(https://s9.postimg.cc/5oxw8jkd7/Heer_46_Waffentrager_8.8cm_Pa_K43_Krupp_Steyr_with_crew_1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/5oxw8jkd7/)

The Berlin Brigade pattern urban camo could look interesting, I've seen a Trumpeter E-100 Ausf B done in a similar way -


(https://s9.postimg.cc/fargome17/E-100_ausf_B_6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fargome17/)
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ripley on April 18, 2018, 12:59:30 AM
I get the feeling the crew wouldn't end up in a "Fury vs Tiger " like firefight , more the long distance sniper kind of thing . Lots of time for the loader to man handle those large rounds . This thing wouldn't be a 6 rounds a minute kind of gun at all . maybe 1 a minute , what do you think ?
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 18, 2018, 01:24:33 AM
Definitely shoot and scoot.

The hull is likely to have minimum armour - for Bolt Action/Konflikt 47 at best Armoured Carrier (7+).
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: Ballardian on April 18, 2018, 02:39:24 AM

 Indeed, I doubt either the hull or turret would have been proof against anything more than small arms & shell splinters (maybe a .50 cal?) The Germans however had plenty of experience of thinly armoured tank hunters (pretty much all the PanzerJaegers/Marders based on Pz I, II & 38t chassis coudn't field more than about 30mm & the fighting compartment of the Hornisse/Nashorn was also thinly armoured). So shoot & scoot would pretty much sum it up - it'd be a foolish crew who mistook their mount for a tank.
 Interestingly, utilising the potentially long effective range of the PaK 43 would have been a bit trickier in real life - the British & US records show quite clearly that the vast majority of kills on their vehicles occurred at ranges less than 400m - well inside effective response range of pretty much anything (the 1km+ shots seem to have been vanishingly rare). This is explainable once you consider the terrain - rises & dips in the land, trees, hills & buildings all conspire to seriously restict line of site, the Normandy campaign is full of incidences of tanks bursting through hedgerows, or round corners only to find themselves facing the enemy at 2-300m or even less.

Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 19, 2018, 02:03:24 AM
The kit above shows two sights, one through the front of the turret, the other periscopic.

Certainly going to need to be careful about mixing of interior detail and crew.
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: Ballardian on April 21, 2018, 10:47:34 PM
 Made a little progress on crewing the Waffentrager - I went for a fairly low-tech solution. The crew's bodies are Rubicon (the gunner's is from the 250/251 20mm turret kit, with the head from a WG/Italeri tanker - its facial detail was better, while the loader was a left over from an SdKfz 3 kit).
 
(https://s18.postimg.cc/q53es4zvp/Krupp_Steyr_Waffentrager_gunner_loader.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/q53es4zvp/)

Rather than build the crew seats (I did think about it - having some left over from the same 250/251 conversion kit) I attached the crew models to the recoil guard - they each have a small piece of square section plastic rod stuck to their laps as a spacer so they sit at the right height, with a pin through it to attach them to the guard (they're currently held on with blu-tak so I can paint them seperately.
Then there's the issue of how much to detail the inside of the turret - given the fairly small apature you can't see very much, so I felt that I could get by with basic representations of the turret clutter. There's a radio on the left behind the gunner, with a cylindrical canister above it, while on the back wall you can see a storage box with a fire extinguisher above it - I'll probably pretty much leave it at that, perhaps adding a pack & an MP40.


(https://s18.postimg.cc/6efrzxfid/Krupp_Steyr_Waffentrager_turret_detail.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6efrzxfid/)
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ripley on April 22, 2018, 01:08:26 AM
Looking really good .Putting Lots of detail in a very little space , fun huh ? I believe the canister above the radio should be a German gas mask case . All their tanks and armored cars  had them fitted in specific spots beside  the crew positions  till the end of the war . It makes it easy to identify most stuff inside WW2 German AFVs , as the holders were all the same in most vehicles , gas mask rack in Tiger , same size/shape in Panzer II & 222  Armored Car  for example . If you have room , there should be a canister , verticle in front by the gunner , it holds the  sight when not in use   .
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: Ballardian on April 22, 2018, 01:38:50 AM

 Cheers Ripley, it is quite enjoyable to do, though I did have to occasionally remind myself to stick to what would be visible & not fall down a detailing rabbit hole.
 & just to prove that it all fits....


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(https://s18.postimg.cc/l83mcdzit/Krupp_Steyr_Waffentrager_with_crew_2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/l83mcdzit/)
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 22, 2018, 02:56:59 AM
Nice job.

Good idea on fixing the crew to the breech.

Is that a release on the right side of the breech?
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: Ballardian on April 22, 2018, 05:43:19 AM
Cheers UVS, fixing them to the recoil guard seemed like the easiest way. Yes that's the breech release, I realise it's a bit thick, but it was the nearest to right size plastic rod I had lying around - I might try & put a little ball of green stuff on the end of it to make it look more lever-y.
Title: Re: The Krupp-Steyr Waffenträger in resin
Post by: ripley on April 22, 2018, 07:52:12 AM
Coming along nicely . Good idea of putting the hanging tarp on the rear of the turret