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Re: Jagdpanzer 38 Hetzer - 3D Prototypes 150821
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2015, 02:15:27 PM »
Things are getting better and better!  Here are some 3D prototype images of the Hetzer...













Due to too many variants, we are only showing an early and late production models.  Might post some more later on...

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Re: Jagdpanzer 38 Hetzer - 3D Prototypes 150821
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2015, 02:53:17 PM »
Looks fantastic.  My only suggestion would be to make it clear in the instructions that the Pilzen on the roof should be removed on the early version.  Hopefully you can squeeze in the flame gun as well.

Lovely work!

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Re: Jagdpanzer 38 Hetzer - 3D Prototypes 150821
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2015, 03:10:09 PM »
Looks fantastic.  My only suggestion would be to make it clear in the instructions that the Pilzen on the roof should be removed on the early version.  Hopefully you can squeeze in the flame gun as well.

FYI... the flammer, a total of 4 major parts - will be on the sprue!  Just confirmed!!  :D


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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2015, 09:11:31 PM »
Looks great . IMO a real improvement on the depth / thickness of the molded on tools . Looks very 3d as opposed to some tools that look very flat , if you understand my meaning

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Re: Jagdpanzer 38 Hetzer - 3D Prototypes 150821
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2015, 09:49:33 PM »
Looks great . IMO a real improvement on the depth / thickness of the molded on tools . Looks very 3d as opposed to some tools that look very flat , if you understand my meaning
Thanks for the compliment. In most instances, is a case-by-case thing... mostly related to the mould release angle and placement of the part line; we always try to find a balance!

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Re: Jagdpanzer 38 Hetzer - 3D Prototypes 150821
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2015, 12:43:34 AM »
This is our TS1 plastic sprue for the Jagdpanzer 38!  Still have some fitting and moulding issues, but should be easily resolved!



















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Re: Jagdpanzer 38 Hetzer - 3D Prototypes 151003
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2015, 06:07:32 AM »
That looks great the separate tools are especially good.

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Re: Jagdpanzer 38 Hetzer - 3D Prototypes 151003
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2015, 11:26:38 AM »
This seems to have gone from design to sprue production in almost no time!  And the components look excellent.  I guess some people will feel that the tracks are oversimplified, but I think they're fine.

Incidentally, having built the M8 HMC and M3 halftrack kits, I have to congratulate Rubicon on the high level of precision they've achieved.  Building a Rubicon kit is now a real pleasure.  The M3 in particular almost builds itself.

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Re: Jagdpanzer 38 Hetzer - 3D Prototypes 151003
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2015, 11:36:40 AM »
Thanks again Pinky for your kind words!  The most time spend on these projects are not drawings or mould making, but double checking "historical accuracy" and "build logic"!  We want our models to be both historically accurate and yet easy-to-build in a logical way!

The M3, with its one piece body, is aimed to be an easy build.  Mould cost is much higher, but think is worth the investment if we can sell more of this beast; especially with a lower retail price as well!

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Re: Jagdpanzer 38 Hetzer - 3D Prototypes 151003
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2015, 11:28:51 AM »
Here is a 3D prototype view of all the possibilities from our Hetzer sprues!



Enjoy!
« Last Edit: October 04, 2015, 11:31:13 AM by Rubicon Models »

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Re: Jagdpanzer 38 Hetzer - 3D Prototypes 151003
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2015, 04:22:15 PM »
They look great, I will definitely want a number of them.

I have just been looking at Horst Schubert's  book on the Hetzer and G13 (Schiffer Military Volume 27 ISBN 0-88740-238-0) and your excellent 3d renderings. According to the description the Hetzer has twelve and six hole idlers, the four hole idler shown as the late production track unit would appear to be a G13.

The book mentions a G13 at the museum in Munster masquerading as a Hetzer.

That is of course from only one source.

[Edit]
Okay, the Osprey NewVanguard lists five different idlers including four hole - the modelling book has a May 1945 model based on the US Aberdeen proving ground with four holes. The Osprey modelling book mentions seven variants but does not list them.

The Czech uprising example in their museum from May 1945 has six holes, that was liberated from the Skoda factory without a gun.
There do appear to be a lot of G13s about:http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_Hetzers_G13.pdf
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Re: Jagdpanzer 38 Hetzer - 3D Prototypes 151003
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2015, 05:20:21 PM »
I have just been looking at Horst Schubert's  book on the Hetzer and G13 (Schiffer Military Volume 27 ISBN 0-88740-238-0) and your excellent 3d renderings. According to the description the Hetzer has twelve and six hole idlers, the four hole idler shown as the late production track unit would appear to be a G13.

The book mentions a G13 at the museum in Munster masquerading as a Hetzer.

That is of course from only one source.

I wondered about this when the photos of the prototypes were first put up.  According the Doyle and Jentz's Osprey title on the Hetzer, the final version of the idler wheel had 4 holes i.e. it did appear on Hezters.

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Re: Jagdpanzer 38 Hetzer - 3D Prototypes 151003
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2015, 05:28:24 PM »

I wondered about this when the photos of the prototypes were first put up.  According the Doyle and Jentz's Osprey title on the Hetzer, the final version of the idler wheel had 4 holes i.e. it did appear on Hezters.

I was just editing my post having dug out the two Osprey titles on the Hetzer.

My original posting was asking if a G13 could be built from the kit, so I had the only book I had that included the G13, that was then changed to the query on the four hole idler.

As I mentioned above, the US Aberdeen Proving Ground had a four hole example, though it now has an eye watering colour scheme at Fort Lee - see the Surviving link above.

I should also have checked the sprue pictures and the rest of the thread - too distracted by the shiny pictures - which showed the other idler options. Apologies.
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Re: Jagdpanzer 38 Hetzer - 3D Prototypes 151003
« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2015, 05:01:14 PM »
Any chance we could see a photograph of the underside of the upper hull moulding?

As I was looking at the Osprey modelling book, I was wondering how easy it would be to build the Bergepanzer and infantry gun.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Jagdpanzer 38 Hetzer - 3D Prototypes 151003
« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2015, 07:14:26 PM »
Finally more images on this little tank destroyer!

A 3-sprue plastic kit which enables you to build a 1/56 (28mm) scale Jagdpanzer 38(t) Hetzer in early, mid, or late production. Also have parts to build this little tank destroyer into a Flammpanzer 38(t). Comes with 3 gun mantlet choices, two road wheel sets for different period, and multiple rear idler wheel choices. Other accessories include machine gun and tank binocular. Available in Q4/15.

























Enjoy!
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