Rubicon Models
Rubicon Models => Work In Progress => Topic started by: Rubicon Models on February 24, 2019, 06:15:28 pm
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We have posted this on our FB page over the weekend... It's pitched dark awaiting the cover to be open (literally)!
(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Misc%20Images/SdKfz%20182%20King%20Tiger%20Engine%20190222-3_zpsxyx1l65a.jpg)
Enjoy!
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*waits for the sdkfz 10 comments*
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*waits for the sdkfz 10 comments*
Definitely NOT an SdKfz 10... at least not for the time being! ;)
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Hmmm. Not sure we are supposed to know it is a picture of an SdKfz 182 King Tiger Engine :-)
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Panther with active infra-red system.
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Stealth bomber?
Black cat in a coal cellar?
Um... Dunno... Maybe just tell us? :)
Something else British would be nice, amongst the sea of German kits...
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Something else British would be nice, amongst the sea of German kits...
I second that.
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Hopefully this new project for 2019 won't push back the progress of the Panzer IV, Panzer III or M4A1
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Hopefully this new project for 2019 won't push back the progress of the Panzer IV, Panzer III or M4A1
This project is handled by a senior member of the design team... all current projects are on schedule! No worries!
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I think Rubicon should admit I am 100% correct, and then I will confess as to how I hacked their system and determined exactly what is in that image :-)
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I think Rubicon should admit I am 100% correct, and then I will confess as to how I hacked their system and determined exactly what is in that image :-)
Hmmm... our image filename ::)
Next time make it generic!
;D
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Oh well... Here is it!
The cover opens...
(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Misc%20Images/SdKfz%20182%20King%20Tiger%20Engine%20190222-1_zps0idd9b4n.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Engines and compartment expansions to go with some existing kits?
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That looks like a chainsword on one side, and a womble running alongside.
Seriously, if it is as the title suggests it is, great timing as I have started on the Warlord one.
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King Tiger? :)
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I think Rubicon should admit I am 100% correct, and then I will confess as to how I hacked their system and determined exactly what is in that image :-)
Hmmm... our image filename ::)
Next time make it generic!
;D
Yeah, I simply grabbed the image and dragged it to my desktop, was going to see if there were shades of "something" to be discovered if the image was manipulated, and the title of the image was right there :-)
All of which means, next time, you can title it Hephalumps and Woozles or something, and really throw us off the track!
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This is our 1st 2019 "NEW" project, nothing from the past...
At present, there are no drawings, nothing at all; just ideas that we had been brainwashing ourselves at the studio.
This is going to be a very challenging project as it involves a lot of new things that we'd not tried before... many "first" for us!
So stay tuned! ;)
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Hmm , so maybe a 1/56 scale kit with interior ? While I think that might be cool , from the experience of building 1/35 kits with internal goodies and adding various bits to my own 1/56 builds , unless you have a way of displaying the vehicle pretty much dis assembled , really not too much can be seen through the various engine / transmission , etc access hatches . That being said , yes , I want full internal detailed kits .. I might not be able to see it , but I'll know it's in there ::)
Here's a Tiger II engine deck with the only crew accessible ( without major tools and equipment ) hatch open ( ok , it actually missing ::) .
(https://i.postimg.cc/8sZBK34F/Tiger-II-engine-deck.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8sZBK34F)
And here's a Tiger II engine compartment with the deck totally removed , lots of cool stuff , huh ? , But with the deck in place and hatch open , you would only see the air filters ( circled in red ) , not too exciting .....
(https://i.postimg.cc/JtYYDt9d/Tiger-II-engine-internals.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JtYYDt9d)
So although I think this would be cool , and I would get the kit if it was produced , I'm wondering if it's really worth the effort . Lots of 1/35 guys I know who do buy the full interior kits ( Takom , Meng , RYE Field ) , for the most part end up using just the bits that can be seen through the hatches . OK , there is that one guy who goes all out adding spark plug wires and brake lines , etc , etc , but I've always thought he was a just a little bit strange........
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If a 1/56 scale kit with a full interior is what Rubicon is going for, this would put the upcoming kit in the scale model category, not so much in the wargaming kit category. I'm fine either way, but if Rubicon is going to make a kit with engine or/and full interior, then I feel that they should address the lack of detail on the rear section of tracks on their kits.
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If a 1/56 scale kit with a full interior is what Rubicon is going for, this would put the upcoming kit in the scale model category, not so much in the wargaming kit category. I'm fine either way, but if Rubicon is going to make a kit with engine or/and full interior, then I feel that they should address the lack of detail on the rear section of tracks on their kits.
I agree. I think it's odd to be focusing on subject matter suitable to display models in what is essentially a wargaming scale, but if we're heading into display model territory then wargame-friendly features like simplified tracks become and issue. More importantly, I feel that engines and other interior parts are best suited to resin, and the apparently limited plastic moulding resources should be directed at expanding the range of vehicles. There are still so many that people are waiting to see in plastic.
Of course, we may be misunderstanding what this image is hinting at.
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We are still exploring different approaches to this project.
We know our trade and we are quite confident that we can come up with something that will please both the military modelling and tabletop gaming communities.
We already have the product specifications drawn up... awaiting final meeting to finalise it.
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Here is a list of features I would like this project not to have...
D shaped peg for the barrel pieces that allow about ten degrees of rotation making alignment difficult.
Periscopes with D shaped pegs that allow 360 degree rotation.
Turret sides that have no pegs etc to make putting six pieces together at the same time that require four hands to hold them in place while the glue sets.
Wedge shaped holes that will not take the wedge shaped pegs on the running gear making alignment a bit hit and miss.
Having two identical parts with identical numbers on different sprues (making you think you have put the shovel on the wrong side, taking it off and then losing it - the latter is just me...).
Two complete turrets (okay, in my case almost two complete turrets - the second turret is shy a lifting rin, see shovel above) but you can only use one because of the addition of the armoured ring on the deck.
Drilling the locating hole for a lift ring IN THE WRONG HALF OF THE MOULD! so you have a raised pip instead of a hole.
Putting the wrong captions on the painting guide.
I am sure these (and others that have been wiped from my memory) are not features any of your kits will feature.
I now feel much calmer and will return to my Firefly Hybrid with renewed enthusiasm....
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As everyone is expecting... More info will follow!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/King%20Tiger/King%20Tiger%20190328-1_zpsyt3b2fjz.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Oh yes please . So what if I've already got 3 by those other guys , I want another one , or two
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Definitely yes (though I only have one: http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.com/search?q=tiger+ii&max-results=20&by-date=true (http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.com/search?q=tiger+ii&max-results=20&by-date=true) from someone else, but you know how that is going).
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I hope I'm not in the minority here, but rather than a new SdKfz 182 Tiger Ausf B plastic kit, I would very much like to see Rubicon Models spend their time, efforts, and funds on releasing plastic kits of something like Allied AT-Guns, SdKfz 10 German half-track, and M3 Medium (Lee/Grant) because these plastic kits would be far more preferable.
Its not because Italeri already released a King Tiger - and I don't even have one of those - it's because the SdKfz 10 German half-track, M3 Medium (Lee/Grant), and Allied AT-Guns kits by Rubicon Models would be far more welcomed/helpful/useful to the average gamer than yet another plastic King Tiger (Tiger Ausf B) kit.
I do not know about other gaming clubs, but in my gaming group, we have a couple of 1:56n (28mm) scale King Tigers and they rarely (if ever) see the gaming table.
(https://www.italeri.com/uploads/products/15765_box.jpg)
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I hope I'm not in the minority here, but rather than a new SdKfz 182 Tiger Ausf B plastic kit, I would very much like to see Rubicon Models spend their time, efforts, and funds on releasing plastic kits of something like Allied AT-Guns, SdKfz 10 German half-track, and M3 Medium (Lee/Grant) because these plastic kits would be far more preferable.
As mentioned earlier in this post, there are a lot of things that we would like to try out with this new King Tiger project. Many FIRST for us in terms of design and production techniques. These experience will help us gain more insights into doing better British tanks with their bolts and nuts. Here is a brief update on our current design schedule...
1) Allied AT-Guns - on queue, almost there!
2) SdKfz 10 Half-Track - on queue, will start late this year
3) M3 Lee/Grant - will start right after M4A1 move into mould making
So it wasn't that bad.
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Could you give us a time frame for when the M4A1 will go into mold making, and what quarter it will be released??
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Well...While I can't say it's the highest priority for me, I can see myself picking up a couple - it's likely to be superior to the WG/Italeri version and is an iconic vehicle - my 10 year-old self wouldn't forgive me if I didn't get at least one (though some of those excellent resin tracks would make it more attractive - their size would make the extra detail shine out). That it probably doesn't have molded on Zim is a definite plus - though a transfer set (such as you can get for 1/35 or 1/48) could provide it if you wanted it.
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Well...While I can't say it's the highest priority for me, I can see myself picking up a couple - it's likely to be superior to the WG/Italeri version and is an iconic vehicle - my 10 year-old self wouldn't forgive me if I didn't get at least one (though some of those excellent resin tracks would make it more attractive - their size would make the extra detail shine out). That it probably doesn't have molded on Zim is a definite plus - though a transfer set (such as you can get for 1/35 or 1/48) could provide it if you wanted it.
I have to agree with you there. The mention of new techniques makes me wonder about Zimmerit in decal form as well.
I like the big and shiny stuff (I build for me not really for gaming - that gives some direction though).
The soft skin half tracks do not have the shiny factor. I understand the need, I just do not feel it.
British guns, on the other hand, now that is another matter (please sir can we have a 25 pounder as well?).
The M4A1 is mildly interesting, and the M3 only because it opens up the opportunity for the Sexton etc.
Encouraged that they are looking at British vehicles with rivets. Now that is an opportunity to part me from my money.
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That it probably doesn't have molded on Zim is a definite plus - though a transfer set (such as you can get for 1/35 or 1/48) could provide it if you wanted it.
Not having molded on zimmerit is a big thumbs up from me!
I always disliked the molded on zimmerit for several reasons:
1) You are stuck with it. Impossible to remove it if molded on. You have no choice.
2) Zimmerit was applied on in different ways. Molded on zim is all the same!
3) Not all vehicles would get zimmerit, but if molded on, well, you do not get that option.
4) They stopped applying zimmerit, but if molded on, well again you do not get that option.
5) Sometimes the molded on zimmerit just doesn't look right for one reason or another.
and the biggest reason is
6) There are so many different ways to add zimmerit to a model, but its impossible to remove if already molded on! So not having molded on zim gives the gamer/modeler a choice to have it or not. Espeically if there is a zimmerit transfer or add-on set (like what you can get for 1/35 or 1/48 models).
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Proposed Features:
• Comes with both “Porsche” and “Production” turret
- might include production turret only, depending on the number of sprues and sprue space
• Comes with or without Zimmerit
- might not include Zimmerit version, depending on the number of sprues and sprue space
• Hand craft Zimmerit pattern, not stamped
- if include Zimmerit version, the pattern will be handcrafted, not digital stamped
• Overlapping, non-interleaved steel-rim roadwheels
- highly detailed wheels
• Highly detailed all-round track links
- will be full-detail multi-part track links all round
• With or without side skirts
• All hatches can be open or closed
• Might include photo-etched parts
• Tank crew included
- commander and driver, might include a full crew
(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/King%20Tiger/King%20Tiger%20190328-2_zpshwknhbhc.jpg)
Comments welcome. Enjoy!
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I like moulded-on Zimmerit because I suck at doing it myself...
I think in the case of Tiger II, it's better without. Zimmerit was discontinued during its production run, and by the time the Henschel turret version was in widespread service most of them didn't have it. On the other hand, it is virtually mandatory for the Porsche turret version.
Rubicon is obviously thinking about making this a premier kit - I had expected an engine to be included as well. It's a fitting subject as a model, but far less useful to wargamers. And it's a rather obvious choice.
Can I suggest a more radical option for a premier kit? How about something from the early post-war period, like a Centurion? I have been wondering if there is a market for the tanks of the 50s and 60s, like the Centurion, T-54/55 and M48, even though the scope for using them for gaming seems limited. These vehicles saw extensive service in several wars, and were upgraded and modified in all sorts of ways. If there is a market for display models in this scale, then it's worth considering branching out into the post-war period. What do people here think?
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Rubicon is obviously thinking about making this a premier kit - I had expected an engine to be included as well. It's a fitting subject as a model, but far less useful to wargamers. And it's a rather obvious choice.
A premier kit... interesting! ;D
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I agree with Pinky that the 'Premier kit' idea is interesting, if, as you've stated, that the Tiger B will have all the things you mentioned, (all hatches open/closed, multi-part tracks - really curious about that one, are we talking length & link or something else - I'd imagine the resin type you're producing for other vehicles would be easiest, & they do look great, photo-etch - an excellent, if fiddly way of getting the mesh grills over the air intakes etc).
I do think that the Tiger B is one those iconic vehicles (who's reputation far outstrips it's actual impact or usefulness), but I'm also with Pinky in that those early cold war vehicles can be equally 'iconic' - The Centurion, the JSIII & T-54/55 and the M26/46/47/48 do deserve some love. They do have a potential use for the Weird War/ Korea/Cold War gone hot type game (after all Warlord is introducing a Korea version of Bolt Action).
Edit: Whoops! Apologies, I hadn't realised that I'd put all that in bold - looks a bit shouty :o
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I like the idea of branching out and making post - war armor kits. Besides Centurions, T-55's and M-48's , I 'd like to the the following generation of armor vehicles, Chieftains , T-62's , and M60's as well, along with a T-72.Those vehicles are rare in resin, maybe there's a reason for that??
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I like the idea of branching out and making post - war armor kits. Besides Centurions, T-55's and M-48's , I 'd like to the the following generation of armor vehicles, Chieftains , T-62's , and M60's as well, along with a T-72.Those vehicles are rare in resin, maybe there's a reason for that??
The problem there is you encounter "the Great Scale Shift". Most (based on available kits and posts in Lead Adventures Cold War sub forum) players use 1/48 -1/50 scale rather than 1/56.
Stuff in 1/56 for Korea will be welcomed, after that it will tend to look small.
Saying that, 1/48 scale Sherman M4A3(E8) and T34/85 would be great - but in the case of the former would be in direct competition with Taimya.
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@Pinky Weirdly the examples at Bovington are the other way round (at least they were back when I visited).
Production turret
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MHWqlCBrFlA/XIwrzEAxgFI/AAAAAAAAFE0/rJn_MeUsES83QfGTP28yGg_F8KN04hLNACLcBGAs/s1600/tmktiger2.png)
Prototype turret.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-MFc6HYHRklQ/XIwrzEqBLuI/AAAAAAAAFE4/nUnmOUPXtBUMFzSLdX7Uap3t2O8KnfHqQCLcBGAs/s1600/tmktiger3.png)
On the Tank Chats the Prototype turret one was in plain yellow.
According to the Osprey NVG, Zimmerit was discontinued in September 1944, so any encountered before (D-Day etc) then should have it After that, probably not so much. As Pinky says, Prototype turrets should probably have it (they should have finished using up the prototype turrets by then).
The minimum kit should be non Zimmerit, production turret with optional exhaust cowls (missing from your illustration). This fills in a missing kit in the big cat pantheon. That is a guaranteed seller. Bonus points for a prototype turret (and drop in turret ring with armour) so the more artistic amongst us can zimmerit to their hearts content.
To do the prototype turret would require the zimmerit hull, in which case a zimmerit production turret would be a bonus. I wonder if you could do a top hull with two sets of overlays for the two sides, front (upper and lower) and engine rear. You would probably need to to get good Zimmerit effect (see the sides on the Warlord one). The alternative is the printed resin decals. This would mean you could have separate tow cables etc.
Another alternative is to do the Zimmerit hull and prototype turret/production in resin and use the plastic chassis (similar to your planned M4 based ARV). You could reuse the turret bases from the plastic kit.
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With respect to side skirts, please can they be easy to split into bits, many photographs show partial skirting.
As a resin option, the narrow transport tracks.
Ever contemplated moving into railway wagons in 1/56?
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UVS - The Bovvy Tiger B with the 'Porsche' turret was always intended to be a test vehicle & never saw service, which explains why it never recieved a coat of Zimmerit, while the production version was one of the earliest 'Henschel' turreted examples & so did. They repainted it (and the Jadgtiger - also a test vehicle with the unusual Porsche suspension) in straight Dunkelgelb a few years ago, in order to be ready for their Tiger room exhibition - a more accurate representation of what the vehicles had when taken from Paderborn (I think).
Here's what they look like now:
(https://i.postimg.cc/w7ygrYZf/Tiger-II-Porsche-Jadgtiger.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w7ygrYZf)
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IRC about 400 Tiger II built . First 50 had Porsche turret ( some with message hatch and pistol ports ) Of the 50 , 47 covered in zimm , other 3 ( including Bov"s which I believe is tank #3 , were without zimm , and used for training and experimentation . #2 with different exhaust layout ended up in Switzerland { or Sweden } and used as range target in 1950s ) of the about 350 left , half had zimm , the later production vehicles ( 18 tooth drive sprocket , single link track , three rows of spare track on turret , etc ) didn't . I wouldn't mind a late version , no zimm with transport tracks option , the early versions are pretty much covered by the BA kit
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...production turret with optional exhaust cowls (missing from your illustration).
UVS, can you upload an image or illustration of this? Don't seem we have references... thanks!!
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I thought it was the early Porsche turreted type ( with schnorkal ) that had the straight Tiger I pipes and sheet metal covers . Will check my reference photos when I get home from work
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...production turret with optional exhaust cowls (missing from your illustration).
UVS, can you upload an image or illustration of this? Don't seem we have references... thanks!!
I thought it was the early Porsche turreted type ( with schnorkal ) that had the straight Tiger I pipes and sheet metal covers . Will check my reference photos when I get home from work
Good point.
I do not have access to the book at the moment, I think it was the Images of War book on the Tigers I and II, and Ripley will probably be right. There should be a mods list in the Osprey NVG book, but besides September 1944, nothing has lodged in my mind.
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UVS - The Bovvy Tiger B with the 'Porsche' turret was always intended to be a test vehicle & never saw service, which explains why it never recieved a coat of Zimmerit, while the production version was one of the earliest 'Henschel' turreted examples & so did. They repainted it (and the Jadgtiger - also a test vehicle with the unusual Porsche suspension) in straight Dunkelgelb a few years ago, in order to be ready for their Tiger room exhibition - a more accurate representation of what the vehicles had when taken from Paderborn (I think).
Here's what they look like now:
(https://i.postimg.cc/w7ygrYZf/Tiger-II-Porsche-Jadgtiger.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w7ygrYZf)
That explains it.
I had not spotted the strange suspension on the JagdTiger.
https://www.tankmuseum.org/museum-online/vehicles/object-e1952-34 (https://www.tankmuseum.org/museum-online/vehicles/object-e1952-34)
"Panzergruppe Paderborn" is an interesting "what if" unit.
"After the war Sennelager became part of the British Zone of Occupation. Both the Jagdtiger and the Pre-production King Tiger now in the Tank Museum were seen at Haustenbeck by British Ministry of Supply Researchers on the 25th August 1945. "
https://tankmuseum.org/museum-online/vehicles/object-e1994-81 (https://tankmuseum.org/museum-online/vehicles/object-e1994-81)
Their search system has issues. I can find their production Tiger II but not the one with the prototype turret.
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Further to the exhaust shrouds, it might have been te illustration in the Guideline book on camouflage on British and Canadian vehicles, which oddly has a number of German photographs and illustrations as well (including the panther with the bath on the rear deck). That has the prototype turret I think.
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Bovs JTiger has the Porsche type suspension , IRC only the first 8 or 9 JTigers got it . Ferdinand Porsche sure liked to jump the gun and get stuff into production before he had the contracts in his hands , and by this time since they seemed to be losing the war the Germans were desperate enough to find a use for them
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Here's some pictures I've found . #1 Porsche turret , Tiger I style exhaust with sheet metal covers
(https://i.postimg.cc/kBTW83Fw/kingtiger-02-LI.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBTW83Fw)
#2 Porsche turret , Tiger II curved exhaust , sheet metal covers
(https://i.postimg.cc/bZGStGvN/king-tiger-white-2-LI.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bZGStGvN)
#3 the weird exhaust set up tank that ended up in Switzerland ( or Sweden ) and then they blew it up
(https://i.postimg.cc/B8BSLs2n/Porche-Tiger-II-demo-LI.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/B8BSLs2n)
Here's 2 parts of a build timeline for Tiger II that I got off the Missing Lynx site , a few years ago . The author compiled all info by going through Jens & Doyle Tiger books with a fine tooth comb .
(https://i.postimg.cc/N5qzVXWZ/Tiger-2-timeline-hull-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N5qzVXWZ)
(https://i.postimg.cc/sBX6S4hG/Tiger-2-timeline-hull-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sBX6S4hG)
It is referenced now and again on the site so I think its a good guide for changes in the Tiger builds . I'll also add the turret and paint timeline from the same author. Use at your own discression
(https://i.postimg.cc/yJmmDJf3/Tiger-2-timeline-turret.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yJmmDJf3)
(https://i.postimg.cc/w3TXBjD3/Tiger-2-timeline-paint-colors.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w3TXBjD3)
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Excellent.
Thanks.
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2) Zimmerit was applied on in different ways. Molded on zim is all the same!
3) Not all vehicles would get zimmerit, but if molded on, well, you do not get that option.
I think you'll find that any Rivet counter will tell you all Zimmerit was applied exactly the same way to perfect standards. There was never any deviation ever. No exceptions.
And all tanks that would get zimmerit would have it.
No exceptions.
It's all in the ladybird book of "how to be a rivet counter and get everything wrong".
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Thanks for reminding me James.
Plate A1 in the Osprey NVG book has the prototype turret with the shielded exhaust and I guess the deep wading equipment (a raised structure on the engine deck to take the snorkel?).
There appears to be no plates or photographs in the Images of War book, and the large plate in the Guidelines book which currently eludes me (so I cannot give the page number).
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Camouflage & Markings, Armour in Theatre Normandy Campaign Part 1 British and Canadian forces volume 2.
Page 46, Guideline publications.
Plate with prototype turrret and exhausts in shields.
I bet you have forgotten the question....
[edit] stupid keyboard
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Slowly getting there...
(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/King%20Tiger/KT%20Engine%20190503-2_zpsbqpg66c1.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Looking good . Just remember , if your going to add internal goodies to your kits , just be sure all the vehicle hatches or panels that were removeable by mechanics can be displayed in an open position . Trumpeter went all out in 1/35 with a ( semi ) complete interior Maus , and molded the engine compartment doors closed ! Because of that a lot of 1/35 guys who were really excited about the release didn't buy one . What's the point , full interior , no way to see it
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We had been trying to keep the King Tiger project hidden from public eyes and not to disclose any information more than needed.
This year being our 5th anniversary, we would like to officially announce full details about this project... this is the most ambitious project to-date - a 1/56 scale all-plastic King Tiger with interior details.
Phase 1 will be a late production King Tiger without Zimmerit, followed by another release with both early and late production turrets with Zimmerit. Additional supporting accessories will also be released as the project progress.
Thank you all again for the support over the years.
(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/King%20Tiger/KT%20Henschel%20190615-01_zpsclhg1xhv.jpg)
(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/King%20Tiger/KT%20Henschel%20190525-00_zpsjrgpvq3b.jpg)
(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/King%20Tiger/KT%20Henschel%20190525-01_zpsi8zyjjj7.jpg)
(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/King%20Tiger/KT%20Henschel%20190525-02_zpshsirrxbo.jpg)
(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/King%20Tiger/KT%20Henschel%20190525-03_zpsmdvtp1ch.jpg)
(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/King%20Tiger/KT%20Henschel%20190525-04_zpsnypcphfq.jpg)
(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/King%20Tiger/KT%20Henschel%20190525-05_zps9xdgxjql.jpg)
Enjoy!
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(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/King%20Tiger/KT%20Henschel%20190525-06_zpsabeqwxjy.jpg)
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Fantastic !
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That is potentially a superb model - into scale model territory :) Even if (like me) you don't require the level of detail to extend to the interior (for gaming at any rate), the parts themselves will provide an excellent source of details for scenery pieces - field repair depots & the like :)
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My goodness. That’s going to be impressive :o
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My only concern would be the cost of such a detailed kit. I am a gamer, not a model builder. I have no need for any of the interior components. Being able to have a hatch open so I can place a commander is all I would need. If the cost of the kit increases substantially because of all the extra sprues, it just means that when I eventually get around to becoming a late war gamer, I would go for someone else's cheaper kit.
So I hope the details don't drive the price of the kit through the roof.
In fact, ideally (for me) the interior is a separate kit, so those who want it can pay for it, and those of us who don't need it can get the cheaper kit we want.
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Awesome.
Though I do agree with Ballardian and EWGs concerns.
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Thanks for the concerns. We have no intention to compete with any current kits on the market. We are very focused to expand our range with quality kits and to look after BOTH the tabletop gaming and military modelling market. Price-wise, we are quite sure the retail price will not be over the roof that nobody could afford.
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My only concern would be the cost of such a detailed kit. I am a gamer, not a model builder. I have no need for any of the interior components. Being able to have a hatch open so I can place a commander is all I would need. If the cost of the kit increases substantially because of all the extra sprues, it just means that when I eventually get around to becoming a late war gamer, I would go for someone else's cheaper kit.
We are very focused to expand our range with quality kits and to look after BOTH the tabletop gaming and military modelling market.
I can very much relate to and agree with what EWG, Ballardian, and UVsmurf said.
The logistic problems would probably a nightmare, but I'm just going to toss out this suggestion out there anyway: Why not offer two versions of the kits? One with interior details and one without interior details. The latter kit would most likely be less expensive, and so would be more appealing to the typical gamer.
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I guess a 'special' kit like this was always going to be a German subject. It would have been great if it had been a bit more left-field, like a Centurion. That said, it's a very solid choice of subject, and the Tiger II's interior is perhaps more impressive in its own right than some other vehicles (those racks of massive shells look very cool). I can just see Ripley building it as a wreck...
Offering 2 versions is a pretty good idea. Or selling the interior as an add-on.
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I may have to agree.
While some basic internal turret detail would be nice (a simple gun breach. Molded ammo storage. Chunky seats for crew) even from a wargamers perspective (opening up the back of the turret would look cool) a full interior detail is quite wasted in that regard.
A separate detail kit or separate king tiger kit would be better.
It could even turn into a new series of add ons for kits.
Just keep it simple.
Porsche king kit.
Henschel king kit.
Interior detail add on kit with 1-2 sprues for the hull.
1 sprue for Porsche turret.
1 sprue for Henschel turret.
Plus then instead you can add extra stowage onto the space saved which would probably be appreciated ALLOT more for the gamer market.
As another thought. While I get Rubicon wants to appeal to gamers and modellers I think it's worth remembering how wary modellers are of the scale.
I've noticed when sharing on Facebook modellers are puzzled and while comfortable with 72nd and 48th they seem scared of 56th scale stuff and when sharing the interior king tiger I noticed allot of likes.
But the comments weren't as enthusiastic.
They seemed reluctant and confused
I think before diving into a full interior kit Rubicon needs to just get themselves known a little more to modellers.
I've seen Rubicon in allot of gaming mags and gaming channels on YouTube.
But only seen them once in a modellers mag and not on any modelling channels.
It may be worth reaching out to people like Plasmo and Andys Hobby Headquarters.
Those are 2 big model channels I know who do tanks (hanger 48 I think is just planes)
Why not get in touch if you've not already.
Send them a latest Sherman kit and the Panzer F/F2/G/H kit and just ask them to do a review.
Get the modellers interested and don't just assume they will be.
Not trying to be mean or patronising. Just typing out my raw thinking
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Thanks for all the input. We are still working on the prototyping, but we already had initial plans for the sprue layout and product packaging. After so many product releases, we know very well how to make our kits to please different audience. We are not afraid to throw in an interior kit at a "standard" retail price range for tabletop gamers. It is still too early to make the final marketing decisions, not until we have all the approvals signed for mould making.
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Building it as a wreck did occur to me Pinky . But not to many catastrophic wreck pictures ( like this Panther ) found on the net , so far
(https://i.postimg.cc/qzhn0dYD/th.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qzhn0dYD)
Most Tiger II wrecks look like this ...
(https://i.postimg.cc/vgZgKRfz/CLt7-LJw-W8-AA2oc4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vgZgKRfz)
I did find this one , sliced open to use as a training aid post war . Think this one ended up in the USA ( Aberdeen in the 70s ? )
(https://i.postimg.cc/s1B1G4cv/Tiger-II-tank-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/s1B1G4cv)
Could always repurpose some model RR bits for a overhead crane and do a maintenance diorama like this one with a Tiger I
(https://i.postimg.cc/N2tVt4Gp/Tiger-turret-2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N2tVt4Gp)
Or , if I manage to win the lottery , go all out and build an assembly line diorama …..something like this
(https://i.postimg.cc/G8j0HN5Z/11485148.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G8j0HN5Z)
So many kits , so little time ……. and money
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People requesting more details of our King Tiger. Here they are... More 3D drawings on individual components of the interior kit disclosed!
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Enjoy!
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Good grief, that level of detail is stunning (one of the modellling magazines has a large scale Panzer IV project with similar level of detail).
Maybe you could get a tie-in to a Haynes Manual?
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Most impressive 8) If you're really looking to impress the scale model crowd perhaps producing the turret and upper hull in transparent plastic would be the way to go (I believe one of the recent full interior 1/35 Panthers, the Rye Field one I think, was done this way). For those tempted to have it as a display model it's an obvious answer - the rest of us are going to paint it anyway...
That said, I can certainly see myself painting the turret interior, turret basket, the area around the turret floor and the interior of the driver's/bowg's position for an open hatch version - even if you'll stuggle to see it.
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Those internal details look great. I hope they will be cast in relatively few pieces; I would be able to just drop the main parts into place and not fiddle around too much with little bits.
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Those internal details look great. I hope they will be cast in relatively few pieces; I would be able to just drop the main parts into place and not fiddle around too much with little bits.
We know some people are concerned about our new King Tiger kit being too complicated to assemble with too many smaller parts. Rest assured we understand your worries, this is why we spend time to create this single piece lower hull base-plate fitted with extra fine details to simplify assembly of the interior. We care!
(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/King%20Tiger/KT%20Henschel%20190525-18_zps17k1ygaf.jpg)
(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/King%20Tiger/KT%20Henschel%20190525-19_zpshsppvkml.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Very cunning,
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That sliced & diced Tiger II that I posted a picture of is now residing at Fort Benning . Also , the hatch on the rear of the turret was for removing the gun not really an escape hatch , as ammo blocked it . Although the racks did fold down , you would have to have used or moved a couple of dozen rounds ( and where would you put them ? ) before you could squeeze through , which might be problematic if the tank was on fire
(https://i.postimg.cc/Pv4hMyb0/DSCN2621-Formaatwijzigenvi-vi.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Pv4hMyb0)
( Trumpeter 1/16 Tiger II )
Also , just like the Tiger I turret hatch , it had no springs to assist in closing it from the inside . So if opened , someone ( or probably 2 guys as it must weigh 100 - 150 pounds ) had to go outside to close it
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I do rather like Ripley's idea of producing one of the 16 ton field cranes (such as the Fries Strabokran), along with a Faun ZR or Hanomag SS100 heavy tractor - it could all form the basis of an excellent diorama, or scenery piece complementary to such a detailed kit as you're proposing in your Tiger II.
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I like this. It’s good to see ambition and pushing things forward in the scale.
I don’t play Germans in the scale but for a good price I could see myself picking this up anyway.
How will the turret attach to the hull ina way that’s nicely scale and also suitable for gaming?
I would love this to succeed and see other kits in the same vein for the Sherman.
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How will the turret attach to the hull ina way that’s nicely scale and also suitable for gaming?
It looks like there is a centre pin under the turret basket floor. It might need a magnet if you wat to turn it upside down.
As you imply, the usual undersize turret ring plus bayonet fitting are unnsuitable.
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We know some people are concerned about our new King Tiger kit being too complicated to assemble with too many smaller parts. Rest assured we understand your worries, this is why we spend time to create this single piece lower hull base-plate fitted with extra fine details to simplify assembly of the interior. We care!
That's exactly what I'm talking about! I think that is the right approach with this scale - especially if you don't want to scare off the wargamers. That is more than enough detail when viewed through the hatches.
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This is a 2-layer photo-etched (PE) sample for our upcoming King Tiger plastic kit.
Unlike the PE that comes with our Panzer IV Ausf J kit, this is a 0.2 mm soft steel sheet which can be easily cut and trim. It is also easy to bend and can be flattened again using a roller (or pencil).
(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/King%20Tiger/KT%20PE%20Sample%20190729-01_zps2bpsxlsg.jpg)
(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/King%20Tiger/KT%20PE%20Sample%20190729-02_zpshzi23pmj.jpg)
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(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/King%20Tiger/KT%20PE%20Sample%20190729-04_zpsqefgpeci.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Nice.
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Prototype preview of our King Tiger with interior...
This is going to be a multi-sprue plastic kit, the initial release is one with the common production "Henschel" turret without zimmerit, probably two product codes - with or without interior. A planned later release will include both early "Porsche" and common "Henschel" turrets with zimmerit.
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Enjoy!
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Wow!!!
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Wow!!!
I would certainly echo that comment.
Will the cables on the hull sides be separate components?
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Will the cables on the hull sides be separate components?
Yes, all tools and cables are separate components. ;)
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Amazing stuff, Rubicon.
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Will the cables on the hull sides be separate components?
Yes, all tools and cables are separate components. ;)
Yay!
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Had not been updating progress of the King Tiger project. A quick update showing fit-testing of the PE (photo-etched) grille onto the plastic frame piece - a perfect fit!
Eagerly awaiting the first King Tiger plastic testshot (TS1) to arrive at the studio... one more week to go. Finger crossed!
(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/King%20Tiger/KT%20PETS1%20191011-1_zpsewlhosqn.jpg)
(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/King%20Tiger/KT%20PETS1%20191011-2_zpsc2jk4vvg.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Looking good . I was hoping you were going to make the frames so the screens sit above the deck , nicely done
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Nice.
You could make quite a splash on the modellers front with this kit, I expect cover articles on all the modelling magazines.
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That looks AMAZING
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dont need one.......will have several ;D
very impressive
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A small update on our King Tiger project...
Our mould maker is almost ready to release the first King Tiger test shots to us. They still need to fine-tune the moulds before they can start the test run.
Here is a closeup view of the KT interior base plate... how's that for a teaser?
(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/King%20Tiger/KT%20TS1%20Sprues%20191003-02_zpsrisugugs.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Wow!
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We had been quiet and busy without any new posts for almost a week... here is a sneak preview from the Rubicon Studio!
(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/King%20Tiger/KT%20HL230%20Engine%20191107-1_zpsxyhympgc.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Wow.
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More updates on the King Tiger. We had been inspecting and test-assembling our first testshot sprues... came up with something similar to what a lot of modelers did with their 1/35 King Tigers - an EXPLODED view of the cat!
(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/King%20Tiger/KT%20Explode%20View%20191023-01_zpsbxabgxg0.jpg)
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Enjoy!
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What about molding the turret and upper hull in clear plastic?
It's almost a shame to hide that incredible interior detail.
Those who want to paint it still could.
Just imagine seeing the assembled and painted interior through the see through hull. I'd paint the exterior tow cables, tracks and tools.
This is going to be a great kit to build.
A five man crew would also be a fantastic bonus.
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What about molding the turret and upper hull in clear plastic?
It's almost a shame to hide that incredible interior detail.
I do not think using clear plastic will not be good enough because too much distortion and other optical imperfections.
If build with all its inside details, this kit will be for display only. Modellers will end up cutting out one side to expose the internal details - better than using clear plastic.
A clever modeller will cut out one side and also install interior lighting (tiny LEDs). ;)
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What about molding the turret and upper hull in clear plastic?
Not going to happen as this will involve a lot of production issues. This was settled when we started laying the sprues!
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Re: the crew, I do hope the final kit includes a 5 man crew, or that one is available. This is an absolutely gorgeous kit, and Rubicon have gone to great lengths to capture every detail, inside and out, it would be a shame to be missing the loader and assistant driver/radio operator, especially on a cut away or exploded build.
Unrelated, the photo etch looks fantastic, hopefully we see more of it in future kits, or offered as an extra detail accessory.
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What about molding the turret and upper hull in clear plastic?
Not going to happen as this will involve a lot of production issues. This was settled when we started laying the sprues!
Oh well. Such is life.
I'm looking forward to this kit too. I look to buy two.
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The perk of being a forum member here is to see firsthand on what we are doing at the studio.
Painting up a plastic testshot King Tiger for the Warfare show @Reading, UK this coming weekend.
Come and visit us for some fun chats!
Will post more painted images sometime of this tiger next week.
(https://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/King%20Tiger/KT%20TS1%20Plastic%20Painted%20191110-1_zps0mta67sz.jpg)
Enjoy!
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I saw them yesterday at Warfare, they looked extremely good.
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Both the exploded view and the painted version look awesome . Hopefully a full interior version attracts a few of the more "scale" type modelers , rather than just appealing to gamers . What's with the little square headed wooden guy ? is that RUBI , Rubicon's mascot ? lol
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Excellent work on the exterior paintjob. It might just be the photo, but it looks as though the interior is painted white. If so, this isn't correct. When you come to preparing the instructions for this kit you should state that the interior was painted Elfenbein, a beige or ivory colour. The lower hull interior was often left in the red primer colour (and sometimes the whole interior was bare primer) - your model seems to have this. Interior stowage boxes and moving parts like handwheels were supposed to be black, although this seems to have been discontinued later.
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Finally had a moment to post some updates here after the UK Reading Warfare show. More images of the cat up close below...
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Enjoy!
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Hello:
Any update on the release date of this kit?
I am interested mainly for the wargame version of this kit.
Thank you and great work on this fantastic kit!
Jorge
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Any update on the release date of this kit?
Because of the recent coronavirus outbreak in China, our factory is still closed by order of the government. We are expecting further delays for all our current projects, including upcoming releases. Will keep everyone posted on the situation.
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You have my sympathies, Rubicon.
People outside HK and the Mainland may not realize how hard this outbreak is hitting businesses here. And we still don't know how long we have to stick this out.
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People outside HK and the Mainland may not realize how hard this outbreak is hitting businesses here. And we still don't know how long we have to stick this out.
Our HKSAR government is not helping either... shame on those who talk a lot and did basically nothing for the good of HK. >:(
End of rant... should not bring this out here! Soz!
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Good luck and take care.
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With the factory starting to get back to normal, we can start Phase 2 of our King Tiger project... that is, implementing Zimmerit onto the King Tiger!
All the armour will be coated with Zimmerit pattern, these are not stamped but digitally hand-drawn onto the armour surface.
We will introduce the Porsche turret into the project as well.
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/0d/a7/Hy6L1tiR_t.jpg)
Enjoy!
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I look forward to seeing how the Zimmerit turns out.
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I hope Rubicon can pull this off. Then we might see Zimmerit on other vehicles (the Panther Ausf A being a good candidate).
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An early glimpse of our WIP on the King Tiger zimmerit add-on!
The pattern was hand sculpted and then etched onto the armour surface section by section. Still pretty much a trial and error process but we are getting there!
Have a happy Easter weekend!!
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/b6/ab/SDruyAZv_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/29/1b/45Y9Akyl_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/57/48/XWBh83oI_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/40/82/Ho8uAlD1_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/bf/ce/RKM6TYFu_t.jpg)
Enjoy!
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That looks pretty good
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Nice.
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Zimmerit sculpting on the King Tiger project is completed.
We will be doing 3D prototyping soon... really looking forward to seeing the results a few weeks from now!
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/c9/50/dp55NNsk_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/9c/2b/8vc8M29F_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/66/9f/NzofQYRv_t.jpg)
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(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/7f/25/VRX5bxAg_t.jpg)
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(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/4a/77/zkzPwEO0_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/81/89/Jta0UgAD_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/1f/e9/L6FENZYZ_t.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Nice.
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Initial prototypes of the King Tiger with Zimmerit look very promising. There was some part shrinkage on the 3D prints but that did not affect our review of the sculpting. Once approved, the Zimmerit project will move into mould making!
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/9d/8e/b2Jz4qvA_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/7f/f2/QYXM5Kxj_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/11/1f/o85GNJy9_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/e2/6d/MpM0bgq0_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/0e/c5/JTRUOoaB_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/49/8b/o8Hcv7zk_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/ea/05/Y6xdjuNZ_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/07/5d/nWAgSbnv_t.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Stunning :)
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Our last post on the Zimmerit upgrade was the first week of May. After ten weeks of dedicated mould-making work, the initial Zimmerit sprue (TS1) is finally completed!
We simply cannot contain our excitement on this King Tiger sprue! We are still waiting for the factory to send us the actual sprue via courier for test fitting and inspection!
You can tell the difference between hand sculpting Zimmerit vs digital stamping... worth our time and effort. Ten weeks of getting a sprue done is also a record for us too!
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/a9/c6/XMZi0fEh_t.jpg)
Enjoy!
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More closeup images of the KT Zimmerit sprue...
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/ec/72/NRJp3zvB_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/bb/64/CSoXQ87P_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/db/12/GkryBd1O_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/09/1e/i2BAFd5H_t.jpg)
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(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/60/dd/pH28N3QX_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/7b/81/D1b6grO9_t.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Nice.
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Test assembled plastic King Tiger with Zimmerit on BOTH initial and production turrets.
The Zimmerit pattern was handcrafted and then apply onto the armour, not digitally stamped. This created a much "realistic" look for the model.
Also a quick photo recap on the full interior details of the tank. The King Tiger comes with FIVE optional tank crew that fits comfortably inside the tank as well.
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/fa/a9/Md3fVRZO_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/3d/93/53du3sDn_t.jpg)
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(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/81/c6/0qx9FiHP_t.jpg)
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Enjoy!
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Very nice.
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A closer look at our King Tiger sprues - a total of SIX sprues plus a photo-etched plate.
Two product codes, these sprues will enable you to assemble a highly detailed King Tiger with or without interior -and- with or without Zimmerit.
Two turret choices - early or production turrets, both designed by Krupp and erroneously labelled as "Porsche" and "Henschel" turrets. Early version with Zimmerit and the production version can be with or without Zimmerit.
Fully detailed interior with 5 Panzer crew that can be fitted inside the King Tiger spaciously in their designated positions. Interior assembly can be omitted if you wanted (but why?).
This King Tiger kit opens up a new sprue size (1.5x of our original standard size) to enable us to create vehicles with a larger dimension... a milestone for our studio!
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/13/91/IWbOh2ix_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/ee/9a/FakzPxXz_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/89/fd/Bizh4ir9_t.jpg)
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(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/d5/13/dwnTIn9E_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/e7/f5/mPFBIY4F_t.jpg)
Enjoy!
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That is amazing, I guess I’ll need at least two.
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Nice.
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Lovely.
Not my cup of tea, but a gorgeous model cleverly engineered.
Excited to see what the future brings.
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This is an amazing project and we will all await its release with interest. Do I see, from the design of sprue Z that your intention is to market it with or without zimmerit, ie two different models? And is it possible that there might also be versions with or without interior detail? As a wargamer I don't feel I need the interior and I don't really want to pay for it,
cheers
EC
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While we are refining our King Tiger decal sheet design, we continue to test our products to make sure they conform to our quality standard.
Here is a decal test on our King Tiger with Zimmerit using existing decals from our current plastic kits with the aid of Mr. Hobby softener and setter.
The results are astonishing!
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/a6/69/1weNg3dl_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/30/47/sRpUvtNO_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/49/68/9K9pB1ps_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/12/d8/eI4tcJfy_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/ae/89/UApQl7Ea_t.jpg)
Enjoy!
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The two turrets getting "inked" showing more details of the Zimmerit and decals...
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/cf/40/nS3juG6f_t.jpg)
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/61/fa/1aCzmMLU_t.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Nice work, that softener certainly makes the decal fit to the surface.
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The final decal sheet design for the King Tiger... It is 1.5x our normal standard size with 6 colours covering most of the King Tiger divisions.
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/73/2b/EKnY7uYe_t.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Nice.
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We have sent Steve Perry at our UK office a preproduction Tiger II for preview and he had kindly created a video about it.
There is no box or decal sheet with the preview product although they are included in the retail kit which will be available soon.
Please subscribe to our Youtube channel if you still have not done so. Enjoy the video!
https://youtu.be/O5diVzyTS5c (https://youtu.be/O5diVzyTS5c)
Enjoy!
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That was very nice. Good to see what will be coming. Also sparked the imagination on what could be done with this kit.
Or more accurately KITS. Must have more than one.
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An assembly-in-progress photo from Steve Perry showing details of the turret traverse gear, partial view of the interior, and the photo-etched (PE) parts integrating with the rest of the air-intake grilles.
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/1a/84/iaaAQEIg_t.jpg)
Enjoy!
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An assembly video on the Tiger II. A third video on painting this big cat will follow soon!
https://youtu.be/9-aYuzepJEM (https://youtu.be/9-aYuzepJEM)
Enjoy!
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I forget, was there going to be just a "gamer" version of this kit?
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What a cool cat kit. It's great to see RM do the tracks asperate. If only they put the track details on the rear parts of the other tanks track like they did on the front side. At least the new panzer IV has some link detail on the track assembly.
I would like too see an upgrade set made for the Panthers, that have the link & length tracks and etched engin grill set, for those who want to have a super detailed model.
Possibly the Tiger I could have an engine grill set made or even a full refurbishment in the future.
I have not seen any comments yet regarding the resin tracks for the Tiger I`s but they look good on the shop page.
When I get a few King Tigers I would not need to build the internal parts of the model for a Wargaming piece. I have got some 1/48th T34`s from Hobby boss and they have a full turret and internal details that I did not build in the kit. If you can't see it don't add it.......unless you want a wrecked one with the turret blown off.