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Re: SdKfz 251/1 Ausf D - SdKfz 251/23 3D Drawing!
« Reply #150 on: January 28, 2016, 03:50:08 pm »
Well it's a nice depiction of the turret.  I think there was a discussion about the seat design a while back. 

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Re: SdKfz 251/1 Ausf D - SdKfz 251/23 3D Drawing!
« Reply #151 on: January 28, 2016, 04:01:08 pm »
Well it's a nice depiction of the turret.  I think there was a discussion about the seat design a while back.

Yes, indeed.  We have double check from various sources that the seats are correct.
The two turrets used a different design based on the same gun.

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Re: SdKfz 251/1 Ausf D - SdKfz 251/23 3D Drawing!
« Reply #152 on: January 28, 2016, 04:57:00 pm »
I am sure the Terry Gander "Ian Allan does an Osprey style" book on the 250 mentions different shaped turrets on the armoured car version.

I do not have the book to hand.

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Re: SdKfz 251/1 Ausf D - SdKfz 251/23 3D Drawing!
« Reply #153 on: January 28, 2016, 05:39:28 pm »
I am sure the Terry Gander "Ian Allan does an Osprey style" book on the 250 mentions different shaped turrets on the armoured car version.

Yes, the SdKfz 250/9 had a different turret depending on whether it was the Alte or Neu version.  This turret appeared on the Neu version. It also appeared on other vehicles, including the SdKfz 234/1 and the Aufklärungspanzer 38(t) 2cm KwK38.  From Rubicon's earlier post, they may be planning to use this turret for one of these vehicles (my guess is the Neu version of the SdKfz 250/9).   
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Re: SdKfz 251/1 Ausf D - Updated 160222
« Reply #154 on: February 22, 2016, 01:40:42 pm »
A minor update on the SdKfz 251/22 Ausf D... additional ammo accessories!





Enjoy!
;)

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Re: SdKfz 251/1 Ausf D - Updated 160222
« Reply #155 on: February 22, 2016, 02:14:02 pm »
Nice inclusion.  It looks a little bit wide compared to the real thing:

http://www.questmasters.us/sitebuilder/images/German_PAK_40_Cannon_Wooden_Ammunition_Crate_003-1173x673.jpg

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Re: SdKfz 251/1 Ausf D - Updated 160222
« Reply #156 on: February 22, 2016, 02:20:25 pm »
Nice inclusion.  It looks a little bit wide compared to the real thing:

It has to be based on the shell itself, plus the plastic minimum thickness requirement.  Nothing much we can do unless we just mould everything into a single piece.  :(

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Re: SdKfz 251/1 Ausf D - Updated 160222
« Reply #157 on: February 22, 2016, 02:25:04 pm »
3D prototype of the SdKfz 251/23.  With this new turret, it opens up a possibility of  three additional vehicles -SdKfz 250/9 Neu, SdKfz 234/1 & Aufklärungspanzer 38(t) - to our potential project list!
Note the two armoured mesh turret covers, took us extra long hours to get it right!  Highly detailed without the use of photo-etched brass!










Enjoy!
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Re: SdKfz 251/1 Ausf D - Updated 160222
« Reply #158 on: February 22, 2016, 04:56:37 pm »
Nice !

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Re: SdKfz 251/1 Ausf D - Updated 160222
« Reply #159 on: February 22, 2016, 04:58:43 pm »
It has to be based on the shell itself, plus the plastic minimum thickness requirement.  Nothing much we can do unless we just mould everything into a single piece.  :(

Maybe mould the shells together with the crate, with just a separate lid?  Presumably you could then get thinner walls on the crate, and proper dimensions.  It would also save you some space on the sprue...

More amazing design work on the new turret - beautiful work!  I just can't help thinking it's a very obscure variant of the SdKfz 251, which overlaps the much more important SdKfz 250/9. 

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Re: SdKfz 251/1 Ausf D - Updated 160222
« Reply #160 on: February 22, 2016, 05:57:23 pm »
A minor update on the SdKfz 251/22 Ausf D... additional ammo accessories!





Enjoy!
;)

Very nice, any chance of a KwK40 version for Panzer IV and Stugs (I know we have closed versions).

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Re: SdKfz 251/1 Ausf D - Updated 160222
« Reply #161 on: February 22, 2016, 06:08:27 pm »
Very nice, any chance of a KwK40 version for Panzer IV and Stugs (I know we have closed versions).

May be on our second German Stowage Set... or a new Panzer IV...  ;)

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Re: SdKfz 251/1 Ausf D - Updated 160222
« Reply #162 on: February 22, 2016, 06:15:56 pm »
3D prototype of the SdKfz 251/23.  With this new turret, it opens up a possibility of  three additional vehicles -SdKfz 250/9 Neu, SdKfz 234/1 & Aufklärungspanzer 38(t) - to our potential project list!
Note the two armoured mesh turret covers, took us extra long hours to get it right!  Highly detailed without the use of photo-etched brass!










Enjoy!
;)

That is excellent, all that detail on the unseen portions of the lower turret.

Do you have plans for crew?

My assumption is that the 251 variant (on an existing hull) will provide some interim income while the three new hulls are designed. And will allow rivet shock to be postponed on the Ausf M hull (does that mean we have the 38(t) tank to look forward to or just the self propelled guns?).

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Re: SdKfz 251/1 Ausf D - Updated 160222
« Reply #163 on: February 22, 2016, 06:16:36 pm »
Very nice, any chance of a KwK40 version for Panzer IV and Stugs (I know we have closed versions).

May be on our second German Stowage Set... or a new Panzer IV...  ;)

Double Yay!