Author Topic: LVT Project - 20mm Polsten Gun 171011  (Read 2379 times)

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Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Prototype 170801
« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2017, 03:21:16 PM »
More nice details.

I assume due to moulding limitations the rear of the track run is not quite as detailed?


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Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Prototype 170801
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2017, 03:32:28 PM »
I assume due to moulding limitations the rear of the track run is not quite as detailed?

The track design is totally different this time! Full details all round!!  ;)

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Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Prototype 170801
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2017, 06:18:12 PM »
I assume due to moulding limitations the rear of the track run is not quite as detailed?

The track design is totally different this time! Full details all round!!  ;)

Yay!

Look forward to seeing the new design.

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Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Need Help 170803
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2017, 12:47:29 AM »
Had been trying to find more info on the subject...
Anyone with more information?



Thanks!
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Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Need Help 170803
« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2017, 01:45:59 AM »
According to Zaloga's books on amtracs, the flamethrower version of the LVT(A)-4 was developed but didn't see active service.  The only flame-throwing version that saw service was a modified LVT-4 troop carrier with the flamethrower behind an improvised shield. 

If you're looking for options, later versions of the LVT(A)-1 and LVT(A)-4 had a ball-mounted .30 cal in the hull, and later LVT(A)-4s had a modified turret with 2 shielded .30 cals instead of the ring-mounted .50 cal.  These were known unofficially as the 'Marianas Model'.

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Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Need Help 170803
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2017, 01:51:44 AM »
According to Zaloga's books on amtracs, the flamethrower version of the LVT(A)-4 was developed but didn't see active service.  The only flame-throwing version that saw service was a modified LVT-4 troop carrier with the flamethrower behind an improvised shield. 

That was one point that we would like to confirm RE: flamethrower.  We do have some info on the LVT-4 one.


If you're looking for options, later versions of the LVT(A)-1 and LVT(A)-4 had a ball-mounted .30 cal in the hull, and later LVT(A)-4s had a modified turret with 2 shielded .30 cals instead of the ring-mounted .50 cal.  These were known unofficially as the 'Marianas Model'.

The ball-mounted hull MG is already incorporated in the design (not shown).  As for the .30 cal modification, we probably will not include them in the kit.  Thanks!

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Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Need Help 170803
« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2017, 08:12:43 AM »
British & American Tanks of WW2 ( Chamberlain / Ellis ) has a paragraph on the flame thrower version and a picture of the LVT(A) 1 . It seems that the flame gun was mounted inside the barrel of the 37 or 75mm gun , it looks the same from the outside so as not to attract enemy attention  IRC , one version of the Sherman flame thrower ( POA -CWS 75-H2 ) had the flame tube inside a breech less 75mm gun, it was  also mounted like that  on old  Sherman 105mm gun tanks .

Looks like a regular M3 turret on the LVT(A) 1

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Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Need Help 170803
« Reply #37 on: August 03, 2017, 08:45:30 AM »
That photo looks like a prototype.  The Chamberlain / Ellis book doesn't say if it was used operationally (the amtank section is quite sparse).  Zaloga specifically says they weren't accepted for deployment, and this led to the improvised LVT-4 version (which used an infantry flamethrower).  I can only find photos of the LVT-4 version in action.

Here's another photo of the LVT(A)-1 version:



Here are some close-ups of different test turrets:


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Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Need Help 170803
« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2017, 11:16:56 AM »
I've checked out a few more military vehicle and hobby  sites , and all say there were flame thrower versions used in WW2  , but no  other pictures than the ones we've already posted  . There are/ where  a couple of LVT tech manual reprints  available , but the reviews don't touch on the info we're looking for  ::)

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Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Need Help 170803
« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2017, 11:56:18 AM »
I've checked out a few more military vehicle and hobby  sites , and all say there were flame thrower versions used in WW2  , but no  other pictures than the ones we've already posted  . There are/ where  a couple of LVT tech manual reprints  available , but the reviews don't touch on the info we're looking for  ::)

Check all available sources and had basically out of resources as well.  Might as well do something later with the LVT-4... ;)

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Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Need Help 170803
« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2017, 12:18:46 PM »
Found a couple of diagrams of a Brit version with Ronsons



And a drawing and photo of a US version but dated Oct 45




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Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Need Help 170803
« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2017, 05:50:24 PM »
Thanks ripley, will use them as references and see what these brought us to...

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Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 & LVT(A)4 170714
« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2017, 04:02:21 PM »
Any chance that the below the waterline part plugs in to the above the water line part like your track units, so the modeller can swap between the two modes?

There are just too many parts involved to create a swappable between complete and waterline model option.  We are not going to do it because of limited sprue space!

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Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Need Help 170803
« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2017, 04:09:47 PM »
Another LVT variant - the LVT-4... but not the last!

We are still trying to work out the cargo bay floor pattern.
Not enough photo reference to let us decide what to do!

Seems like there are two air vents on single piece metal floor
without any anti-skid pattern...  still investigating!




















Enjoy!
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Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 3D Drawing 170807
« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2017, 05:33:10 PM »
This should have been the first of your LVT kits...

I have some top-down photos - I'll see if they scan clearly enough to show the floor.