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Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
« Reply #90 on: August 27, 2017, 03:16:50 PM »
I agree.

Now someone needs to explain the War Department serial numbers to me ^___^

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Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
« Reply #91 on: August 27, 2017, 10:19:45 PM »
Info gleaned from Canadiansoldier.com under Vehicles ( markings general ) - 1st off the 2 letter combo  C ?  is used only on Canadian vehicles :  CA - Ambulance . CC - Motorbike . CF - Armored Car / Scout Car . CH - Artillery Tractors . CL - Lorry ( truck for all you Yanks  ;D ) 30 cwt or larger . CM - Staff Car / Jeep . CS - Self Propelled Gun . CT - Universal Carrier / Tank . CX - Trailers . CZ - Lorry under 15 cwt . So most if not all the decals on the sheet are for Canadian vehicles  , but easy enough to cut off the 1st letter , and your good . I assume the NZ code would be for Kiwi vehicles , no idea what the Aussies had as a letter prefix or if they even were allowed to drive  ::)
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Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
« Reply #92 on: August 27, 2017, 10:43:41 PM »
Thanks, so Z prefix for basic British trucks.

Interesting images if you Google for them, a number with autocannon on the load bed (Breda and German).


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Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
« Reply #93 on: August 28, 2017, 12:04:03 AM »
In British service, the Z prefix was for lorries under 15cwt.  L was for lorries over 15cwt (so theoretically there shouldn't be any for this vehicle).  H was for wheeled artillery tractors (I don't think these vehicles were used as gun tractors).  So as Ripley said most of these war department numbers are for Canadian vehicles.  I have no idea if that was Rubicon's intention.
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Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
« Reply #94 on: August 28, 2017, 12:38:41 AM »
I wonder if  CMP trucks  were  given WD numbers in Canada , ( the number minus  the letter prefix would be assigned to vehicle for its lifespan )  so they would have Canadian lettering when shipped overseas . You would assume the end user  UK units would change the Letters  when received , but maybe they better things to do , like fight a war ?  I 've seen pictures of  some Canadian units with tanks that had just a T number , not CT , maybe replacements rushed into combat , we'll paint them later sort of thing ? It will easy to cut off the C to make them Brit trucks
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Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
« Reply #95 on: August 28, 2017, 01:30:33 AM »
Looks great  8)

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Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
« Reply #96 on: August 28, 2017, 07:53:57 AM »
@ ripley. Too many aussies were flying Lancasters on the way to Germany to worry about driving :D.

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Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
« Reply #97 on: August 28, 2017, 09:30:18 AM »
That makes sense , less chance of bumping into something up at 10,000 feet  ;D .  Anyone have an idea of what the P stands for on this amphibious jeep ?

Its a reconnaissance regiment [41] of the 2nd or 3rd Canadian Infantry Division  , so there should be a C ....right ? I love it when you find a chart that explains all the vehicle codes and stuff and  you figure you got it sorted , and then you find something like this  :o
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Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
« Reply #98 on: August 28, 2017, 10:51:06 AM »
As this photo is post war could the convention have changed?

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Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
« Reply #99 on: August 28, 2017, 12:10:44 PM »
It seems I missed a few letters  :-[  the British War Department also had D ( Dragons artillery tow ) , E ( Engineer vehicles ) , P ( Amphibious  - Duwks & SEEPs ) , R (  the terrible idea Roto Trailer ) and V ( vans ) . E,P,& V added late war.

Light Dragon artillery tractor BEF

Roto Trailer - filled with ammo and fuel ( in wheels ! ) towed by Valentine / Churchill tanks - seen in North Africa


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Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
« Reply #100 on: August 28, 2017, 12:26:12 PM »
Its a reconnaissance regiment [41] of the 2nd or 3rd Canadian Infantry Division  , so there should be a C ....right ? I love it when you find a chart that explains all the vehicle codes and stuff and  you figure you got it sorted , and then you find something like this  :o

Right.  I found a photo of a 15cwt truck in the desert with an L prefix number.  Maybe it was overloaded...

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Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
« Reply #101 on: August 28, 2017, 02:46:02 PM »
Right.  I found a photo of a 15cwt truck in the desert with an L prefix number.  Maybe it was overloaded...
Does anyone know what a 30cwt CMP looks like?

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Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
« Reply #102 on: August 28, 2017, 04:24:48 PM »
Here are the prefix codes for vehicle numbers, if canadian it was preceded with an extra C. As you can see P means amphibious.

A    Ambulance
C    Motorcycle
D    Dragons (tracked towing vehicles)
E    Engineer vehicles (bulldozers)
F    Armoured scout car or armoured car
H    Tractor (artillery tractor)
L    Lorry (30cwt or heavier)
M    Car (including Jeep)
P    Amphibious
R    Rota trailer
S    Self propelled artillery
T    Tracked vehicles (tank and universal carriers)
V    Van
X    Trailers
Z    Truck (15cwt and smaller), white scout car, halftrac

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Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
« Reply #103 on: September 01, 2017, 11:26:48 PM »
I did wonder if these were used by the LRDG, not definitive, but Wikipedia says that Ford 15cwt CAMP were used as command vehicles (Chevrolet 30cwt for line vehicles). Not sure on the cab type though.

I was just glancing through the Bolt Action LRDG list.

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Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
« Reply #104 on: Today at 01:59:31 AM »
Back on the LRDG list, and with reference to the discussion on the German flak quad cannon on the Opel, could you mount the PAK 36 on the load bed as an LRDG AT truck?

I know that they used 30cwt Chevys but no one does them in plastic (hint hint).