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Re: Codename: Sherman 16 - Hull Updated 160812
« Reply #135 on: August 14, 2016, 09:39:29 am »
The Facebook comments don't help. 

- It can't be an M4, as the M4 didn't have the extended rear panel.  But the large armoured radiator cover (behind the turret ring) is an M4 feature.
- It can't be an M4A2, because of that armoured radiator cover (so my first guess was wrong).  It also lacks the small engine deck vent and the fuel caps aren't in the right position.
- It could be intended to be a mid-production M4A3, but it lacks the characteristic large engine deck vent and the M4A3 didn't have the armoured radiator cover.
- It can't be an M4A4 because of the armoured radiator cover again - the M4A4 had a "bulge" instead.

When it comes to Shermans, the details are important, so if there are details missing from this image then it's rather difficult pinning down which version it's mean to be.  For instance, it has a mid-production glacis, but it has the locating points for the folding rear rack, which was a late production feature.
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Re: Codename: Sherman 16 - Hull Updated 160812
« Reply #136 on: August 14, 2016, 11:27:46 am »
I'm thinking the green is the M4A3 cad  ( check the kit plans ), and the grey is the new stuff . So they have completed the upper engine deck, solid grey  ( M4 ) , and the driver's area and glacis plate are still being worked on . As they redesign and add the  new pieces , it changes the original  cad drawing . So Rubicon is going to produce a M4 ! Or not  :o my brain hurts ...

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Re: Codename: Sherman 16 - Hull Updated 160812
« Reply #137 on: August 14, 2016, 03:58:59 pm »
So the consensus is that the engine deck is for the radial engines marks but the rest is a from an M4A3?

This is where those of a certain age and background have a That's Life moment.

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Re: Codename: Sherman 16 - Hull Updated 160812
« Reply #138 on: August 15, 2016, 03:05:58 pm »
Good guesses guys!  This is indeed a Sherman Ic which can also be a standard M4...
We are still working on the details and need to change some of the layout, but the
general parts are there!

This is definitely a WIP drawing, and we are still working on this project slowly when
we have spare time.



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Re: Codename: Sherman 16 - Hull Updated 160812
« Reply #139 on: August 15, 2016, 06:28:57 pm »
So the design was still halfway between an M4A3 and and M4...

Anyway, I welcome a Rubicon Firefly.  As I've said a few times, a Hybrid Firefly would be even better, as it was (IMO) the best looking Firefly type.  While this would duplicate the recent Warlord Sherman Vc, I think there's room for Rubicon to do it better.  I picked up Warlord's Firefly recently, and it's very much a scaled up 15m model, with quite heavy-handed detail.  It will probably paint up well, but it verges on WH40k levels of chunkiness.  It's a very complete model, however, with spare tracks, spare wheels, a jerrycan, a choice of 2 commander half-figures (which are also obviously scaled-up from 15mm and look a bit odd) and even sand skirts and a Cullin hedgegrow device.  So it's a good wargaming model, but a mediocre scale model.  I'm sure Rubicon's will be more accurate, and better detailed.  But Rubicon will also need to provide at least the same level of extras.  Hopefully by then crew figures will be standard in Rubicon kits.

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Re: Codename: Sherman 16 - Hull Updated 160812
« Reply #140 on: August 16, 2016, 01:56:42 am »
so i was right it is am M4, but the rear plate is not the same as the one in the drawings so making it harder to guess!
pity it duplicates the itaerli/warlord one and m4a2 would have been better as it could be used by gb, russia and the french.

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Re: Codename: Sherman 16 - Hull Updated 160812
« Reply #141 on: August 16, 2016, 04:31:22 am »
... m4a2 would have been better as it could be used by gb, russia and the french.
And if you get the right version the USMC

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Re: Codename: Sherman 16 - Hull Updated 160812
« Reply #142 on: August 16, 2016, 09:45:24 pm »
I am assuming that the different colored parts of the hull  in your post are seperate parts to make different versions of Sherman tanks. I suggest that the rear upper hull be a seperate piece, or at least have grooves on the underside showing where to cut if an M4, M4A2 or M4A3 version is required. I really l like where you have the upper hull seperated, so that a direct vision hull could be built from the same kit. With where the front upper hull is seperate, you could even make a M4 composite hull option , with measurements or grooves on where to cut. Rubicon, you've done a great job at researching this project/future Sherman kit.
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Re: Codename: Sherman 16 - Hull Updated 160822
« Reply #143 on: August 22, 2016, 11:22:12 pm »
Not the best of pictures without proper lighting!  A quick snapshot from
the studio today... Seen anything familiar?



Enjoy!
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Re: Codename: Sherman 16 - Hull Updated 160822
« Reply #144 on: August 23, 2016, 12:07:35 am »
late m4a2 on the left

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Re: Codename: Sherman 16 - Hull Updated 160822
« Reply #145 on: August 23, 2016, 01:22:30 am »
late m4a2 on the left

So that is Soviets and US Marines modellers happy.

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« Reply #146 on: August 23, 2016, 01:59:23 am »
late m4a2 on the left

So that is Soviets and US Marines modellers happy.
are we gamers ever happy 8)

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Re: Codename: Sherman 16 - Hull Updated 160822
« Reply #147 on: August 23, 2016, 05:44:05 am »
late m4a2 on the left

So that is Soviets and US Marines modellers happy.
are we gamers ever happy 8)
Okay, that is Soviet and US Marine modellers happy for a given value of happy ^___^.

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Re: Codename: Sherman 16 - Hull Updated 160822
« Reply #148 on: August 23, 2016, 08:25:07 am »
Looking good . Really like that all your crew hatches are now able to positioned open or closed . Now I have to find some more tank crews  :)

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Re: Codename: Sherman 16 - Hull Updated 160907
« Reply #149 on: September 07, 2016, 11:41:52 am »
More work being done on our M4 Digital Library project!




Enjoy!
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