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Re: Codename: Sherman 2016 - M4A1 Hybrid 170314
« Reply #270 on: March 15, 2017, 10:10:49 am »
I'm very pleased to see this hull is in the works.  It means we're one step closer to a Hybrid Firefly.

I remember trying to convert a Hybrid hull from the old 1/72 scale ESCI M4A1 'large hatch' hull.  It did not go well...


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Re: Codename: Sherman 2016 - M4A1 Hybrid 170314
« Reply #271 on: March 15, 2017, 12:20:01 pm »
I'm very pleased to see this hull is in the works.  It means we're one step closer to a Hybrid Firefly.

To us, it is not only a Hybrid Firefly, but eventually a complete M4A1 hull.


I remember trying to convert a Hybrid hull from the old 1/72 scale ESCI M4A1 'large hatch' hull.  It did not go well...

The drawing you see here is already our 3rd version.  This is extremely difficult to draw even with all the reference blueprints, line drawings, and reference images on hand.


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Re: Codename: Sherman 2016 - M4 Hybrid 3D Drawings 170318
« Reply #272 on: March 18, 2017, 01:32:16 pm »
These was supposed to be posted earlier, but Photobucket had an upload issue...
Anyway, here it is - two version of the M4 Hybrid!





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Re: Codename: Sherman 2016 - M4 Hybrid 3D Drawings 170318
« Reply #273 on: March 18, 2017, 02:04:04 pm »
It is difficult to see the "curves" of the hull with line drawings,
here is a rendered image of the Firefly IC for your review.



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Re: Codename: Sherman 2016 - M4 Hybrid 3D Drawings 170318
« Reply #274 on: March 18, 2017, 04:18:52 pm »
Looks great!  For some reason, this is the best looking Firefly, and probably one of my favourite Sherman types - even though the hybrid hull seems like a bit of a stupid idea.

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Re: Codename: Sherman 2016 - M4 Hybrid 3D Drawings 170318
« Reply #275 on: March 18, 2017, 06:11:19 pm »
Looks good.

The appliqué on the other side is more complicated as it is across the join.

The reasons for the hybrid sort of makes sense, the casting was quicker than the complicated welded front (the fully cast hull was even quicker but required larger casting facilities).

Of course the large hatch welded hull was a lot easier to make.
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Re: Codename: Sherman 2016 - More M4 Hybrid Drawings 170319
« Reply #276 on: March 19, 2017, 12:55:07 am »
@UVS - more images on the Sherman I Hybrid Firefly to answer your question!





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Re: Codename: Sherman 2016 - More M4 Hybrid Drawings 170319
« Reply #277 on: March 19, 2017, 01:19:42 am »
Excellent

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Re: Codename: Sherman 2016 - More M4 Hybrid Drawings 170319
« Reply #278 on: March 19, 2017, 04:31:16 am »
On your 3D drawing of the M4 composite Sherman, you show different parts color coded. On the track units,you have the track pads around the front sprocket a different  color than the rest of the track unit. Does this signify that it is a seperate piece,having detail on the front of the track,as opposed  to no detail,as in a one piece continuous track unit?

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Re: Codename: Sherman 2016 - More M4 Hybrid Drawings 170319
« Reply #279 on: March 19, 2017, 11:26:00 am »
I wondered the same thing as Hoffman, but I'm guessing the track design is the same as the M4A3's, with slide-moulded detail on the front of the tracks but not the back.

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Re: Codename: Sherman 2016 - More M4 Hybrid Drawings 170319
« Reply #280 on: March 19, 2017, 12:14:41 pm »
On your 3D drawing of the M4 composite Sherman, you show different parts color coded. On the track units,you have the track pads around the front sprocket a different  color than the rest of the track unit. Does this signify that it is a seperate piece,having detail on the front of the track,as opposed  to no detail,as in a one piece continuous track unit?

The part is an one piece track with details on the front but not the rear.
Other coloured parts, in most cases, indicate a separate component.

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Re: Codename: Sherman 2016 - More M4 Hybrid Drawings 170319
« Reply #281 on: March 19, 2017, 12:31:51 pm »
This is the US standard version with 75mm turret:



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Re: Codename: Sherman 2016 - M4 Hybrid US Version 170319
« Reply #282 on: March 19, 2017, 02:07:36 pm »
All good - this range is really taking shape.  Hopefully there'll be a Jumbo soon.

It would be worth trying to address the point UVS made about the hull appliqué armour having additional components.  [Edit - whoops, wrong version.  Ignore this]
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Re: Codename: Sherman 2016 - M4 Hybrid US Version 170319
« Reply #283 on: March 19, 2017, 04:23:54 pm »
It would be worth trying to address the point UVS made about the hull appliqué armour having additional components.
Does this relate to the hybrid? The other side picture shows the join running through the appliqué in a similar manner to the photographs of the real thing (only on the right side of the hull, the left side is a one piece plate as shown).

When Rubicon gets to the M4A1, the appliqué goes all crazy paving.

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Re: Codename: Sherman 2016 - M4 Hybrid US Version 170319
« Reply #284 on: March 19, 2017, 04:54:08 pm »
You're right - I was thinking of the M4A1.  This one looks fine.