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Rubicon Models => Work In Progress => Topic started by: Rubicon Models on January 22, 2017, 07:53:15 pm
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Because of the extend for each M4 variant is getting increasingly more in contents,
with 3D drawings, prototypes, and starting to see some TS plastics; we have decided
to split them up into new topics so that people can follow them much easier!
NOTE: Common sprues, like the road wheels, tracks, suspension, and turrets will
still be posted under the original topic: Codename: Sherman 2016
This one is for the M4 Sherman.
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Moving this 3D Prototype post from the original "Codename: Sherman 2016".
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Large%20Hatch%20170122-01_zpsgmehzzxd.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Large%20Hatch%20170122-02_zpsmt9uxmdb.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Large%20Hatch%20170122-03_zpscmilbfz7.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Large%20Hatch%20170122-04_zpsbewy3eg1.jpg)
Enjoy!
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As mentioned in the other thread, this M4 didn't exist. The all-welded large hatch M4 hull was only built with a 105mm gun.
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As mentioned in the other thread, this M4 didn't exist. The all-welded large hatch M4 hull was only built with a 105mm gun.
This M4 (large hatch) version will come with the 75/105 turret sprue, so is not a problem for the final product.
Just the way it is being assembled and market. We will take special care when doing the marketing material.
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This is the small hatch M4 Sherman prototype (with British sideskirts)...
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Small%20Hatch%20170124-01_zpsjbxrovoh.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Small%20Hatch%20170124-02_zpszga0ujgg.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Small%20Hatch%20170124-03_zpss4wxuwmy.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Small%20Hatch%20170124-04_zpsonoaa6ii.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Small%20Hatch%20170124-05_zpsoro6livw.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Small%20Hatch%20170124-06_zpsbea2n5c2.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Are these British pattern sand shields? They look like the standard pattern, although the rivets are a bit oversized.
The mid-production hull wouldn't normally have a high bustle turret, unless it was a rebuilt vehicle. It was introduced specifically for the large hatch hull (to avoid fouling the hatches).
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Are these British pattern sand shields? They look like the standard pattern, although the rivets are a bit oversized.
From what we know, these are standard pattern sand shields, but found mostly on Sherman under British use.
The mid-production hull wouldn't normally have a high bustle turret, unless it was a rebuilt vehicle. It was introduced specifically for the large hatch hull (to avoid fouling the hatches).
No worries, we only have a few prototypes printed, so is a mix and match thing, when it comes to a few snapshots. Will get these sorted out when we do the assembly instructions.
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Is the example turret one with the cast in cheek piece? I noticed an undercut effect on this picture.
(http://rs1373.pbsrc.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Small%20Hatch%20170124-02_zpszga0ujgg.jpg?w=480&h=480&fit=clip)
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From what we know, these are standard pattern sand shields, but found mostly on Sherman under British use.
Yes - the US tankers almost always removed them. There were a couple of earlier types that only the British used. The factory-installed pattern had some additional details, like a vertical slot on the middle panel.
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Is the example turret one with the cast in cheek piece? I noticed an undercut effect on this picture.
I think that's a moulding seam. It looks similar to the turret in the discontinued kit.
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Is the example turret one with the cast in cheek piece? I noticed an undercut effect on this picture.
@UVS & Pinky - there is, in fact, an undercut on almost all 75mm turret. It is not a moulding seam.
It was an engineering remedy to strengthen a "thin spot" on the turret, it was supposed to be a thickened cheek like feature, but because of injection mould issues, we can only make an indent like feature to represent it.
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@UVS & Pinky - there is, in fact, an undercut on almost all 75mm turret. It is not a mt was an engineering remedy to strengthen a "thin spot" on the turret, it was supposed to be a thickened cheek like feature, but because of injection mould issues, we can only make an indent like feature to represent it.
I know about the thickened cheek, but I thought that indent was a mould seam. So I filled it :)
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Probably the most anticipated prototype of all... the Sherman I (M4) conversion... Firefly IC:
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/Firefly%20IC%20170125-01_zps7bt8kxwf.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/Firefly%20IC%20170125-02_zpszhvr7bns.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/Firefly%20IC%20170125-03_zpsdi72qb3o.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/Firefly%20IC%20170125-04_zps0tvqnptm.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/Firefly%20IC%20170125-05_zpsgb2d3cmw.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/Firefly%20IC%20170125-06_zpsprsd7p62.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/Firefly%20IC%20170125-07_zpsznm3oju3.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Very nice.
The leaf spring across the rear door is good, I do not think it relates to the vehicle's suspension.
The appliqué Armour on the right hull looks like it varies with some having the "corner" cut off, others not. As it is a separate piece that is not too much of an issue.
Okay, this is going to be "The One" for my "Hercules" Firefly project.
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The "rear spring " is a tow bar . Sort of the same thing ( but smaller ) seen on the Uni Carrier and IRC the Field artillery Tractor ( FAT ). Was it used to tow ammo trailer for the tank ? I've seen pictures of Brit tanks with the bar , and no bar but the mounts on rear hull ( removed to access engine ? )l , but never saw a picture of a tank towing any thing . Now some one post a picture :D
(https://s27.postimg.org/iikk7fyof/carrier12.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/iikk7fyof/)
(https://s24.postimg.org/zcph9qd81/Tow_bar_jpeg.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/zcph9qd81/)
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Yes, I've been waiting for this one. And it's lovely. I think I'm going to throw my Warlord Fireflies into the bin and wait for this.
The inclusion of the tow bar is a nice touch. As is the angled stowage box on the rear - I think I've seen at least one photo of one of these, but was it unit-specific?
Only one very minor point - I think this pattern of turret extension (i.e. the radio box) had a raised ridge along the rear panel, which was larger than the rest of the box (these extensions were quite crudely constructed).
UVS - I was looking at shape of the applique armour, and it looks as though many if not most M4s had that corner cut off. It looks as though M4A2s didn't. Which is odd, when you think of it, since the panel was supposed to protect the same point.
Great to see this kit in the works, Rubicon.
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On the radio box, it is difficult to tell from the photographs on the minutia page.
http://the.shadock.free.fr//sherman_minutia/firefly_tank/index.html
One does show what Pinky describes.
I do not think I have anything suitable from the Tank Museum (must revisit).
The surviving Fireflies PDF apparently shows the rear plate slides in between the side plates rather than being a welded box. Period photographs are better source material.
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UVS - there are a lot of details in the Mark Hayward book on the Firefly. I'll see if there's a clear image.
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Only one very minor point - I think this pattern of turret extension (i.e. the radio box) had a raised ridge along the rear panel, which was larger than the rest of the box (these extensions were quite crudely constructed).
The optional stowage bin had ledges that clings onto the radio box. If we had that raised ridge, the stowage bin will not be able to fit properly. We have bought a two-volume British Fireflies reference book from China (in Chinese of course, and probably a compilation of several English language books), which had hundreds of B/W Fireflies photos. Most of them had both boxes, thus the decision.
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Rubicon - understood, but I think it's a vertical ridge, which wouldn't affect the attachment of the stowage box. It's only a minor point, of course.
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Some close-ups of the same pattern radio box as appears on the Rubicon prototype. Note that there are no boltheads, and the sides protrude past the rear plate. It also seems a bit less tall than the one on Rubicon's prototype, although it's hard to tell.
(https://s24.postimg.org/ywdx3v4v5/IMG_2143.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ywdx3v4v5/)
(https://s24.postimg.org/ah5p2t5y9/IMG_2144.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ah5p2t5y9/)
(https://s24.postimg.org/tniw5zmg1/IMG_2145.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/tniw5zmg1/)
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Hard to find top view pictures . Seems to be 3 styles of top plate on the radio box . Flat panel , with 3 small squares on top , or 3 round pieces . ( access or what ?) Bolts seem to be counter sunk or visible , again different builder ?
(https://s28.postimg.org/sovbmsqyh/prototype.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/sovbmsqyh/)
(https://s30.postimg.org/yz2rcz2tp/The_British_Army_in_the_Normandy_Campaign_1944_B.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/yz2rcz2tp/)
(https://s24.postimg.org/49fsgr1k1/M4_A4_Sherman_VC_17pdr_MT_Wreck_15.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/49fsgr1k1/)
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Hayward's book has several top views. He says that the Ic normally had the pattern of radio box depicted on Rubicon's prototype, although some had a flat top like your third photo (he says this was the later pattern of radio box). So Rubicon's prototype is accurate, subject to some small details (such as the protruding bolts). The circular panels seem to have been for cooling (the radio was inserted through the top). Your first photo shows the first Firefly conversion, btw. The square pattern seems to have been common on the Vc - here is a close-up.
(https://s23.postimg.org/8jn3qndfb/IMG_2146.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/8jn3qndfb/)
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Nice pictures.
The one with the socks drying on the barrel has a long tool box on the side deck, I knew I got the idea from a photograph from somewhere, it occurs in British Tanks in Normandy amongst other places.
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Wonder how it cooled the radio as they sit flush not vented ? Maybe thinner metal let out the heat better than the 1 inch ( ? ) top plate ? What book by Hayward is being reffered to ? Maybe I need to get it ;D Checked out the book , ouch ! They want between $75 to $ 225 bucks depending where you look for a 15 year old book . Hmm , I guess I'll give it a pas for now
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Ripley - that's a good question. The panels in the top of the radio box don't seem to be any use for cooling, but apparently that's what they are for. You couldn't remove the radio through the hole which was cut in the back of the turret (which was quite narrow), hence all of the radio box designs have a removable top panel.
Hayward's book is a genuine labour of love. There's some speculation there, because the Firefly's history isn't as well documented as you'd expect, but he has collected a lot of great information and a lot of carefully chosen photos. I should credit the photos above to this book.
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Must be a kind of heat sink thing . In the picture you posted above, pinky , they look to be less than 1/4 inch thick , a lot thinner than the top panel . Can't really see a need for them to have 2 or 3 bolts in them though . Funny how much weird stuff we can find out about WW2 tanks as well as how much is still not known . Guess back then nobody thought about future hobbyists , just trying to stay alive was all that mattered . Looks like a great book , some really good reviews on various hobby sites , I'll have to add it to my list of must have books . You never know , sometimes you can find a real bargain on EBay . Then again , sometimes not ::)
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Sneak preview of the M4 Hybrid (composite) prototypes - a US standard version
and a Sherman IC Hybrid. More to follow...
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Hybrid%20Prototype%20170405-01_zpslozd3dgb.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Very shiny! Looking forward to these.
Roll on the Sherman II.
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Very nice . Firefly is going to look fantastic with your British crew figures sitting up on the turret
(https://s12.postimg.org/gy54ex8ex/3194281736_6232ea13bc.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gy54ex8ex/)
All I need now is a lot of 28mm Churchill track ::)
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All I need now is a lot of 28mm Churchill track ::)
Something for the next allied stowage set?
And individual Sherman links for the turret?
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As promised, more M4 Hybrid (composite) photos...
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Hybrid%20Prototype%20170405-01_zpslozd3dgb.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Hybrid%20Prototype%20170405-02_zpsgx850gq3.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Hybrid%20Prototype%20170405-03_zpsm7kkuiyr.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Hybrid%20Prototype%20170405-04_zpsniep7wrm.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Hybrid%20Prototype%20170405-05_zpsg7bv6wkz.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Hybrid%20Prototype%20170405-06_zps9leaxols.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Hybrid%20Prototype%20170405-07_zpsnfcfe90p.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Hybrid%20Prototype%20170405-08_zps8y9avrzk.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Hybrid%20Prototype%20170405-09_zpskrfgzl6c.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Hybrid%20Prototype%20170405-10_zpsr98locgi.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Hybrid%20Prototype%20170405-11_zps3p2biv5m.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4%20Hybrid%20Prototype%20170405-12_zpszjmbcmks.jpg)
Enjoy!
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I feel a squadron of these in my future....
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The Ic Hybrid looks wonderful. It's probably too late to change (as I think you've already done the turret sprue), but it would be good if you could fix the minor details on the Firefly radio box mentioned above.
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I know it's probably been mentioned before, but what is the plan for the 75mm/M4A1 kits?
Will they come out as their own box or as an expansion pack?
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One other thing on the hybrid. It's important that the turret applique armour is a separate piece, as it doesn't seem to have been a feature of the Firefly version. In fact most Fireflies of all types don't seem to have had this.
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Have not updated our project progress for a while. The M4A2 moulds are done and are now going through QC.
Unlike our M4A3/M4A3E8, there will be two products for the M4A2:
280054 M4A2(76)W - mounted with a 76mm gun, this kit can be assembled with an early or late T-23 turret.
And by using the spare tracks from our M4A3/M4A3E8 (280042), you can convert this Sherman into an
M4A2(76)W HVSS too!
280055 M4A2 Sherman / Sherman Mk III - mounted with a 75mm gun, this kit can be made into either a small
or large hatch M4A2. It can also be assembled into a British M4A2, the Sherman Mk III, as well.
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4A276W%20Large%20Hatch%20170816-01_zpst1mss1b7.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4A276W%20Large%20Hatch%20170816-02_zps724utjkj.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4A276W%20Large%20Hatch%20170816-03_zpsbl8jb4jt.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4A276W%20Large%20Hatch%20170816-04_zpseyck4lvr.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Looking forward to both versions of the M4A2 - especially the Sherman III. But what do you mean by "small hatch" 76mm version? And will the 75mm version have both low bustle and high bustle turrets?
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But what do you mean by "small hatch" 76mm version?
Oops, typing too fast without checking. Should be about the turret, not the hatches... Now corrected!
And will the 75mm version have both low bustle and high bustle turrets?
Yes, both will be included, plus numerous mantlets and gun shields.
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Yes, I thought it might be a mistake. Both kits sound excellent. Hopefully they will also have some crew and accessories, like the M4A3E8.
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Agreed, excellent coverage of these tanks. I hope you have the sales to match. You deserve them.
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Preceding the M4A2(76)W is the M4A2. Equipped with a 75mm M3 gun,
a total of over 8,000 units were produced between Apr 42 and May 44
by five manufacturers. Almost all M4A2s were sent aboard on Land-Lease
for Allies use, including USSR, Britain, New Zealand, Poland, and Free
French Force. No US Army combat use except by the USMC (PTO). The
British M4A2 designation was Sherman Mk III.
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4A2%20170817-01_zpseqx1ccie.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4A2%20170817-02_zpsrh7lkbog.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4A2%20170817-03_zpseejse7vt.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4A2%20170817-04_zpsgep3qkkw.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4A2%20170817-05_zpsaeumubm6.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4A2%20170817-06_zpskzx2banv.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4A2%20170817-07_zpsdgatnee6.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4A2%20170817-08_zpsy2c9hwpt.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/M4A3%20Sherman/M4A2%20170817-09_zpskajoyrdt.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Your 3D drawings look great!! When you release the kit,are you going to include the three piece transmission cover with the small hatch M4A2 hull? The earlier M3 suspension with the chevron -less track would also be a nice addition to your M4A2 kit.
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The one-piece transmission cover seems to have appeared quite early on the Sherman III.
Rubicon - on the British version, the additional panels on the hull for stowage were fabricated from the sand shields. So you won't normally see a Sherman with both these fittings and a complete set of sand shields. This addition was largely unique to one unit - I mentioned this before.
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The one-piece transmission cover seems to have appeared quite early on the Sherman III.
@Pinky & HOffmn - That's true. We are including the one-piece version for the M4A2. The 3-piece transmission will appear on our upcoming M4A1 with the early M3 bogie as an option. And, of course, all these will be interchangeable between kits.
Rubicon - on the British version, the additional panels on the hull for stowage were fabricated from the sand shields. So you won't normally see a Sherman with both these fittings and a complete set of sand shields. This addition was largely unique to one unit - I mentioned this before.
We just wanted to show what can be "added" to make the M4A2 to become a Sherman Mk III. Will be up to the modeller to decide how to assemble the kit.
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Nice, looking forward to this one.
Is the sand shield used for storage the same moulding as the complete sand shield? From the image it appears to lack some of the details(I have not seen a detailed photograph of the real thing but would assume that it would have the same fixtures).
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The one-piece transmission cover seems to have appeared quite early on the Sherman III.
@Pinky & HOffmn - That's true. We are including the one-piece version for the M4A2. The 3-piece transmission will appear on our upcoming M4A1 with the early M3 bogie as an option. And, of course, all these will be interchangeable between kits.
Rubicon - on the British version, the additional panels on the hull for stowage were fabricated from the sand shields. So you won't normally see a Sherman with both these fittings and a complete set of sand shields. This addition was largely unique to one unit - I mentioned this before.
We just wanted to show what can be "added" to make the M4A2 to become a Sherman Mk III. Will be up to the modeller to decide how to assemble the kit.
Great!!! I can't wait for the release of your M4A1!!!
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This is the PRELIMINARY decal sheet designed for the upcoming M4A2 kits. We're asking for comments on possible improvements. This is a tricky layout as it involves so many countries - USSR, Poland, New Zealand, Britain, and the Free French Forces.
Luckily USSR doesn't have many insignias to add (and can't afford to add slogans too), and most Commonwealth countries were sharing the same regiment numbers. We are omitting a lot of items such as turret numbers and tank names, the problem is we have very limited space on this decal sheet!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Waterslide%20Decals/M4A2%20Decal%20170818-2_zps1s10pfqi.jpg)
Thank you!
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I haven't checked my references (we're moving, so my books are getting hard to find), but this looks like a good selection. Again, the red star was rare even on Lend-Lease vehicles, so you could replace those with some more common Soviet markings.
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Do the division marks cover the major users of the Sherman III?
I am away and do not have access to my limited library.
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They seem to have most of them covered. I haven't been able to check the regimental markings though.
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They seem to have most of them covered. I haven't been able to check the regimental markings though.
Think some of the service badges are not correct. Need to cross-check again with some new books that are arriving. If so, will have extra space to add some turret numbers.
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I dug out 'The New Breed' and a book on British equipment.
The arm of service marking (the square with the number in it) should be red (senior brigade) or green (junior brigade). The red and blue unit sign is Royal Artillery and should be dropped. Green over blue was reconnaissance - I don't think recon units used Shermans, so these are unnecessary.
For armoured divisions the numbers should be:
50 (Brigade HQ), 51, 52, 53 (regiments). So these are correct.
8th Army and other middle east units used a different sequence, which carried on into the Italian campaign.
71 (Brigade HQ), 40, 86, 67 (regiments). So these should all be available at least in red.
The other numbers can be dropped.
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@Pinky - yes, we have already dropped all the "non" red Arms of Service markings. Will replace them with other appropriate decals, and repost for comment soon!
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Based on feedback from this forum and from our FB Community page, we have revised the M4A2 decal sheet as follow:
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Waterslide%20Decals/M4A2%20Decal%20170818-3s_zps0rhpziwo.jpg)
Further comments?
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At risk of sounding like a broken record - how about some more markings for the M4A2(76mm)? You've devoted a whole kit to a vehicle that mostly saw service with the Red Army, but it hardly has any decals. In fact most of these decals are useless for the 76mm version. Arguably you don't need Polish markings for this Sherman anyway - save them for the M4A4. And the French markings are very incomplete, so you might as well just ditch them as well.
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@Pinky, you might be correct in terms of reasoning, but creating a different decal sheet will upset our product costs estimates and packing procedure as well.
Anyway, here is a Soviet-only decal sheet for comments...
Will see how things progress over the next few days!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Waterslide%20Decals/M4A2%20Soviet%20Decal%20170818-1s_zpsrxzx2pbx.jpg)
Comments please!
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Za Rondiny!
Brings back memories of 'seventies comics.
I will need to look at the Uncle Emcha book.
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@Pinky, you might be correct in terms of reasoning, but creating a different decal sheet will upset our product costs estimates and packing procedure as well.
I was suggesting that you simply drop some of the options from the decal sheet. You're trying to cover too many bases, and ending up not doing justice to your 76mm version. So I thought you should drop the Poles and the French, and focus on the British/Commonwealth and Soviets.
I've also just realised that you don't have any US Marines markings at all, yet the Marines used the 75mm version of the M4A2 (the large hatch type was common in the Iwo Jima and Okinawa campaigns). You'll presumably want a Marines version to compliment your forthcoming LVT models. Marines Shermans didn't have a lot of markings - mostly call signs and tank names (the Marines had some good tank names!).
How about this: cut down the number of British markings (arguably you don't need all the squadron symbols, or so many different arm of service markings). Include some more Soviet markings - mostly turret numbers/symbols. And include a few Marines markings. That would cover the most important users, and the versions most likely to be required by wargamers.
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This is going to be the final version of the M4A2 decal sheet. Will use the above "Soviet" sheet for the M4A2(76)W...
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Waterslide%20Decals/M4A2%20Decal%20170822-1s_zpsxi001xpp.jpg)
Comments?
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Nothing more from me.
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The decal sheets look good to me . I think as a kit for a first time plastic builder , you've given them enough decals to make a few interesting versions out of the box ( most resin kits have none ) . For the more historical builder / gamer , I'm sure they have lots of decals left over from other builds if the particular unit they want insn't in the box , ( I know I do ) as well you have your single decal sets for sale , so IMO job well done
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What would be really cool (decal wise) if if you produced A5 or even A4 sheets for after sales. You could fit a lot of stuff on one and wouldn't be limited by the current size.
Games Workshop's Forge Wold do something similar.
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Is there anyone here who knows someone who knows Cyrillic translation?
Need to spell check the tank slogans, particularly the two circled in red. Many thanks!!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Waterslide%20Decals/M4A2%20Soviet%20Decal%20170818-1se_zpsznxk9swe.jpg)
Also updated the M4A2 decal sheet by adding the 27th Armoured Brigade who had lots of Sherman III during the NW Europe campaign by removing one set of 11th Armoured Division decals...
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Waterslide%20Decals/M4A2%20Decal%20170822-2s_zpskia8zcrj.jpg)
Enjoy!
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The final version of the M4A2 decal sheets:
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Waterslide%20Decals/M4A2%20Decal%20170818-3F_zpsffnkjmoj.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Waterslide%20Decals/M4A2%20Soviet%20Decal%20170818-2F_zpsfdx3am16.jpg)
Enjoy!
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These look good , 2 thumbs up from me
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Assuming it has badges for 8th and 27th Armoured brigades it is perfect (plus it has the red White red I'd patches I want for my walkers).
http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.co.uk/2017/02/british-m100-comanche-walker.html (http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.co.uk/2017/02/british-m100-comanche-walker.html)
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The Decal Sheets look good! Have you thought of producing a "Generic Sheet" of just Soviet Slogans? They could be used on any of the T-34 Series, SU-85/SU-122 kits, the upcoming T-26 Series and any future Armor Releases.... I mean there is just so many Slogans, but You could double them in Small & Medium sizes to fit the T-26 & the T-34 Turrets. Throw in some extra Soviet Stars & some Guard Unit emblems. Just a thought! It's like with the US Sheet, you could also add a "Kilroy was here!" :o
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Assuming it has badges for 8th and 27th Armoured brigades it is perfect.
It does.
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The one-piece transmission cover seems to have appeared quite early on the Sherman III.
@Pinky & HOffmn - That's true. We are including the one-piece version for the M4A2. The 3-piece transmission will appear on our upcoming M4A1 with the early M3 bogie as an option. And, of course, all these will be interchangeable between kits.
Rubicon - on the British version, the additional panels on the hull for stowage were fabricated from the sand shields. So you won't normally see a Sherman with both these fittings and a complete set of sand shields. This addition was largely unique to one unit - I mentioned this before.
We just wanted to show what can be "added" to make the M4A2 to become a Sherman Mk III. Will be up to the modeller to decide how to assemble the kit.
Great!!! I can't wait for the release of your M4A1!!!
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I'm not too tech savy, I was trying to post this in response to Track's M4 Medium tank thread.