Rubicon Models
Rubicon Models => Showcase & Gallery => Topic started by: Morris on October 03, 2019, 01:06:41 am
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Here a few of my Rubicon Panther and conversions. I like the Panther kits ;D
(https://i.postimg.cc/21z8jq2r/IMG-20190328-202324-285.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/21z8jq2r)
(https://i.postimg.cc/vDT5ywyS/IMG-20190805-213842-636.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vDT5ywyS)
(https://i.postimg.cc/bSQjSFbD/IMG-20190710-211310-614.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bSQjSFbD)
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Those are pretty nice . Whose resin turret did you use for the Panther F ( 3rd picture ) ? IRC the Panther with Panzer IV turret should not have the rear turret skirting . There was a thread about it and the other weird and wonderful vehicles in that Ferdinand command group on Missing-Lynx , I'll see if I can find a photo
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I know that Panzer IV turret did not have a rear skirt in this version. but I did not like that look.
The schmalturm for the Panther F is a conversionkit from the Heer46 company. its a resin turret with a pewter barrel.
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The picture I could quickly find online may appear to not have the rear turret armor as mentioned.
Most pictures show full Pzkpfw IV H turret armor mounted on the Panzer V Panther Ausf.D-1 Bergpanther, Schwere Heeres Panzerjäger Abteilung 653, Russia, early 1944. It was one of the many field conversions using surplus Panzer IV Ausf.H turrets and serving as command tanks.
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And don't forget the turret was bolted to the hull , so it did not turn and the gun was a dummy leaving room for map boards , etc
(https://i.postimg.cc/svmqvvkp/Bergepanther-mit-Pz-IV-turm-0095.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/svmqvvkp)
Note the guy standing at the turret rear , no skirt or stowage box by the looks of it
(https://i.postimg.cc/WdCv1dZ5/Tiger-P-Porsche.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WdCv1dZ5)
The only combat Tiger (P) and the Berge Panther on rail cars . Oh , maybe someone should release some WW2 type German 4 and 6 axle flat cars
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Not sure if this would be of use: https://sarissa-precision.com/products/lowloaderwagon-rollingstock?_pos=11&_sid=5269909d1&_ss=r (https://sarissa-precision.com/products/lowloaderwagon-rollingstock?_pos=11&_sid=5269909d1&_ss=r)
It is MDF.
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Close but no cigar , lol . Its got American style trucks and British style buffers , I get the feeling its Sarissa's idea of an American western era low centre flat car , not German in any fashion at all I'm afraid
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Its got American style trucks and British style buffers ,
I understand your comment about the bogies (though I think it has a strong - for MDF values of strong - resemblance to the bogies on the Hattons' Warwell), but I am surprised you can tell the difference in MDF between British and German buffers.
I thought it was Sarissa's idea of an Interwar Warwell.
This is too big.https://www.hattons.co.uk/234007/hattons_originals_h7_ww_701_warwell_wagon_50t_with_diamond_frame_bogies_ms_1_in_war_department_livery_gwr_/stockdetail.aspx (https://www.hattons.co.uk/234007/hattons_originals_h7_ww_701_warwell_wagon_50t_with_diamond_frame_bogies_ms_1_in_war_department_livery_gwr_/stockdetail.aspx)
I am suspicious of this (in HO)
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.hattons.co.uk/stocklistdatabase/404976/Roco_856Roco_Military_Flat_Car_with_Tiger_Panzer_Tank/StockDetail.aspx&ved=2ahUKEwiag5OPhIflAhVEQkEAHcwDAPgQFjALegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw2oQJr3z9rSUGgmD-EY0l42&cshid=1570344306108 (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.hattons.co.uk/stocklistdatabase/404976/Roco_856Roco_Military_Flat_Car_with_Tiger_Panzer_Tank/StockDetail.aspx&ved=2ahUKEwiag5OPhIflAhVEQkEAHcwDAPgQFjALegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw2oQJr3z9rSUGgmD-EY0l42&cshid=1570344306108)
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At one time in my misguided youth I use to model Era 2/3 German rail in HO . Lots of Roco , Rowa , Klien Model Bahn , and various other European model train companies rolling stock filled my shelves . Never really got a layout up and running though , but had lots of rolling stock . The are differences between UK and North American wheel sets , although there was some international trade from time to time ( but best to buy local , creates jobs and taxes ) .The Hantons car you posted has US style trucks , Also the UK did , have back in the 30-50s cars set up to European standards that could be ferried to and used on European track . But that's a long and convoluted tale for another time and a Model RR forum . Suffice to say the Sarissa car will "pass" for early US / UK usage , if you are not a model railroader , just like some of the resin 1/56 stuff out there , it will pass if your not a scale modeler . The Roco car you posted is an actual pre war ( 1930s ) 4 wheel flat . Some are still in use today ( new decks , brake up grades , etc ) , yes still in use today in the modern German Army , it was that good of a design . BUT the 4 wheel couldn't carry a Tiger , you needed a 6 wheel flat .
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Link about Warwells.
http://www.railalbum.co.uk/railway-wagons/military/ww2-50-ton-warwell-1.htm (http://www.railalbum.co.uk/railway-wagons/military/ww2-50-ton-warwell-1.htm)
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my last finished project: the bergepanther
(https://i.postimg.cc/qtRzgyFM/IMG-20191017-104032-072.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qtRzgyFM)
(https://i.postimg.cc/4Y43Fpsb/IMG-20191017-104032-080.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4Y43Fpsb)
(https://i.postimg.cc/RJ9mJz0Q/IMG-20191017-104032-079.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RJ9mJz0Q)
(https://i.postimg.cc/y3YVrHz6/IMG-20191017-104032-082.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/y3YVrHz6)
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Nice.
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Very nice.
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Cool cats. I love Panthers.
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my latest project: Panther G with Steelwheels
(https://i.postimg.cc/1fkhgs0B/IMG-20200509-154819-270.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1fkhgs0B)
(https://i.postimg.cc/HcsfGxHY/IMG-20200509-154819-273.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HcsfGxHY)
if you want to see more about this or other conversions. Check out my insta account morris_pas. ;)
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Love the bergepanther. I finished a Maultier other day and the kit had various option for the carrage. Kept the part for the carrage option I didn't use for such a jib f I happen to find a spare Panther hull.
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Next Day:
Actualy you have inspired me now. AND the turret I can use for a pantherturm.