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Title: Rubicon Panther conversions
Post by: Morris on October 03, 2019, 01:06:41 am
Here a few of my Rubicon Panther and conversions. I like the Panther kits ;D


(https://i.postimg.cc/21z8jq2r/IMG-20190328-202324-285.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/21z8jq2r)

(https://i.postimg.cc/vDT5ywyS/IMG-20190805-213842-636.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vDT5ywyS)

(https://i.postimg.cc/bSQjSFbD/IMG-20190710-211310-614.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bSQjSFbD)
Title: Re: Rubicon Panther conversions
Post by: ripley on October 03, 2019, 07:29:25 am
Those are pretty nice . Whose resin  turret did you use for the Panther F ( 3rd picture ) ? IRC the Panther with Panzer IV turret should not have the rear turret skirting . There was a thread about it and the other weird and wonderful vehicles in that Ferdinand command group on Missing-Lynx , I'll see if I can find a photo
Title: Re: Rubicon Panther conversions
Post by: Morris on October 03, 2019, 06:48:07 pm
I know that Panzer IV turret did not have a rear skirt in this version. but I did not like that look.

The schmalturm for the Panther F is a conversionkit from the Heer46 company. its a resin turret with a pewter barrel.
Title: Re: Rubicon Panther conversions
Post by: Jaeger on October 04, 2019, 07:12:28 am
The picture I could quickly find online may appear to not have the rear turret armor as mentioned. 
Most pictures show full Pzkpfw IV H turret armor mounted on the Panzer V Panther Ausf.D-1 Bergpanther, Schwere Heeres Panzerjäger Abteilung 653, Russia, early 1944. It was one of the many field conversions using surplus Panzer IV Ausf.H turrets and serving as command tanks.

Title: Re: Rubicon Panther conversions
Post by: ripley on October 04, 2019, 07:23:51 am
And don't forget the turret was bolted to the hull , so it did not turn and the gun was a dummy leaving room for map boards , etc
(https://i.postimg.cc/svmqvvkp/Bergepanther-mit-Pz-IV-turm-0095.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/svmqvvkp)
Note the guy standing at the turret rear , no skirt or stowage box by the looks of it
(https://i.postimg.cc/WdCv1dZ5/Tiger-P-Porsche.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WdCv1dZ5)
The only combat Tiger (P) and the Berge Panther on rail cars . Oh , maybe someone should release some WW2 type German 4 and 6 axle flat cars
Title: Re: Rubicon Panther conversions
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on October 04, 2019, 02:52:04 pm
Not sure if this would be of use: https://sarissa-precision.com/products/lowloaderwagon-rollingstock?_pos=11&_sid=5269909d1&_ss=r (https://sarissa-precision.com/products/lowloaderwagon-rollingstock?_pos=11&_sid=5269909d1&_ss=r)
It is MDF.
Title: Re: Rubicon Panther conversions
Post by: ripley on October 04, 2019, 07:47:37 pm
Close but no cigar , lol . Its got American style trucks and British style buffers , I get the feeling its Sarissa's idea of an  American western era low centre flat car , not German in any fashion at all I'm afraid
Title: Re: Rubicon Panther conversions
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on October 06, 2019, 02:51:09 pm
Its got American style trucks and British style buffers ,
I understand your comment about the bogies (though I think it has a strong - for MDF values of strong - resemblance to the bogies on the Hattons' Warwell), but I am surprised you can tell the difference in MDF between British and German buffers.
I thought it was Sarissa's idea of an Interwar Warwell.

This is too big.https://www.hattons.co.uk/234007/hattons_originals_h7_ww_701_warwell_wagon_50t_with_diamond_frame_bogies_ms_1_in_war_department_livery_gwr_/stockdetail.aspx (https://www.hattons.co.uk/234007/hattons_originals_h7_ww_701_warwell_wagon_50t_with_diamond_frame_bogies_ms_1_in_war_department_livery_gwr_/stockdetail.aspx)

I am suspicious of this (in HO)
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.hattons.co.uk/stocklistdatabase/404976/Roco_856Roco_Military_Flat_Car_with_Tiger_Panzer_Tank/StockDetail.aspx&ved=2ahUKEwiag5OPhIflAhVEQkEAHcwDAPgQFjALegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw2oQJr3z9rSUGgmD-EY0l42&cshid=1570344306108 (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.hattons.co.uk/stocklistdatabase/404976/Roco_856Roco_Military_Flat_Car_with_Tiger_Panzer_Tank/StockDetail.aspx&ved=2ahUKEwiag5OPhIflAhVEQkEAHcwDAPgQFjALegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw2oQJr3z9rSUGgmD-EY0l42&cshid=1570344306108)
Title: Re: Rubicon Panther conversions
Post by: ripley on October 06, 2019, 11:00:08 pm
At one  time in my misguided youth I use to model Era 2/3 German rail in HO . Lots of Roco , Rowa , Klien Model Bahn , and various other European model train companies rolling stock filled my shelves . Never really got a layout up and running though , but had lots of rolling stock . The are differences between UK and North American wheel sets , although there was some  international trade from time to time ( but best to buy local , creates jobs and taxes ) .The Hantons car you posted  has US style trucks ,   Also the UK did , have back in the 30-50s cars set up to European standards that could be ferried to and used on European track . But that's a long and convoluted tale for another time and a Model RR forum . Suffice to say the Sarissa car will "pass" for early US / UK usage , if you are not a model railroader , just like some of the resin 1/56 stuff out there , it will pass if your not a scale modeler . The Roco car you posted is an actual pre war ( 1930s ) 4 wheel flat . Some are still in use today ( new decks , brake up grades , etc ) , yes still in use today in the modern German Army  , it was that good of a design . BUT the 4 wheel couldn't carry a Tiger , you needed a 6 wheel flat .
Title: Re: Rubicon Panther conversions
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on October 07, 2019, 12:57:54 am
Link about Warwells.
http://www.railalbum.co.uk/railway-wagons/military/ww2-50-ton-warwell-1.htm (http://www.railalbum.co.uk/railway-wagons/military/ww2-50-ton-warwell-1.htm)
Title: Re: Rubicon Panther conversions
Post by: Morris on October 18, 2019, 04:51:08 pm
my last finished project: the bergepanther

(https://i.postimg.cc/qtRzgyFM/IMG-20191017-104032-072.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qtRzgyFM)

(https://i.postimg.cc/4Y43Fpsb/IMG-20191017-104032-080.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4Y43Fpsb)

(https://i.postimg.cc/RJ9mJz0Q/IMG-20191017-104032-079.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RJ9mJz0Q)

(https://i.postimg.cc/y3YVrHz6/IMG-20191017-104032-082.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/y3YVrHz6)
Title: Re: Rubicon Panther conversions
Post by: Tracks on October 18, 2019, 05:04:04 pm
Nice.
Title: Re: Rubicon Panther conversions
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on October 19, 2019, 01:22:25 am
Very nice.
Title: Re: Rubicon Panther conversions
Post by: CuorDiLeone on November 17, 2019, 05:24:40 am
Cool cats. I love Panthers.
Title: Re: Rubicon Panther conversions
Post by: Morris on May 18, 2020, 07:06:43 pm
my latest project: Panther G with Steelwheels


(https://i.postimg.cc/1fkhgs0B/IMG-20200509-154819-270.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1fkhgs0B)


(https://i.postimg.cc/HcsfGxHY/IMG-20200509-154819-273.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HcsfGxHY)


if you want to see more about this or other conversions. Check out my insta account morris_pas.  ;)
Title: Re: Rubicon Panther conversions
Post by: neffer38 on May 25, 2020, 03:23:49 am
Love the bergepanther. I finished a Maultier other day and the kit had various option for the carrage. Kept the part for the carrage option I didn't use for such a jib f I happen to find a spare Panther hull.
Title: Re: Rubicon Panther conversions
Post by: neffer38 on May 25, 2020, 08:43:41 pm
Next Day:

Actualy you have inspired me now. AND the turret I can use for a pantherturm.