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Re: SdKfz 222/223/260/261 - 3D Prototype 161111
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2016, 08:47:19 am »
I agree about the D-shaped brackets being questionable. The Tankograd book has several clear photos of SdKfz 222 turrets and none show these.  The screens were held open by a vertical strut.  Were they perhaps a feature of late SdKfz 250/9s?







Also - what is the tubular object attached to the upper right side behind the turret?  I can't find any photos that show this.
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Re: SdKfz 222/223/260/261 - 3D Prototype 161111
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2016, 11:35:33 am »
I agree about the D-shaped brackets being questionable. The Tankograd book has several clear photos of SdKfz 222 turrets and none show these.  The screens were held open by a vertical strut.  Were they perhaps a feature of late SdKfz 250/9s?

We can easily remove the d-shaped brackets before the actual mould production begins.
Will discuss with our research guys and designer on the subject further.


Also - what is the tubular object attached to the upper right side behind the turret?  I can't find any photos that show this.

Think that tubular object is a filter of some kind.  Saw that on some 222/223 photos.
Will look further...

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Re: SdKfz 222/223/260/261 - 3D Prototype 161111
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2016, 07:30:24 pm »
Also - what is the tubular object attached to the upper right side behind the turret?  I can't find any photos that show this.



Here is a photo with the what we suspected is an air filter of some sort on an SdKfz 223 in North Africa.

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Re: SdKfz 222/223/260/261 - 3D Prototype 161111
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2016, 09:56:17 pm »
I found another photo with the same fitting - this time an SdKfz 222 being unloaded in North Africa.  I remember this from the Tamiya SdKfz 223, and I see it's usually referred to as an air filter for desert use.  I assume this piece is optional?


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Re: SdKfz 222/223/260/261 - 3D Prototype 161111
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2016, 10:21:20 pm »
I found another photo with the same fitting - this time an SdKfz 222 being unloaded in North Africa.  I remember this from the Tamiya SdKfz 223, and I see it's usually referred to as an air filter for desert use.  I assume this piece is optional?

Yes, this part is optional.  We might remove it totally if the sprue layout is too crowded.

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Re: SdKfz 222/223/260/261 - 3D Prototype 161111
« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2016, 12:14:45 pm »
The filter is probably more useful than the dish that's shown on your SdKfz 223 prototype.  I'd suggest including the big jerrycan rack for the front, plus a couple of jerrycans in brackets for the hull sides, the smoke grenade rack shown on one of your drawings, and some ammo boxes.  As well as the the various optional stowage boxes shown on your prototypes.

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Re: SdKfz 222/223/260/261 - 3D Prototype 161111
« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2016, 11:51:50 pm »
IRC the object on the rear of the turret of the 222 is the radio ariel ( sp ? )  base , as  the radio was located  in the rear of the turret . It was one of those small ones ., like under the dash board of the 251 . The tube on the side of the engine right would be some kind of pre filter for the air intake , probably a retro fit for the sand / dust found in Africa and Russia . The Stugs IIIs used in Africa got the same kind of up grades with filters on the rear fenders , IRC there was a Tropical version of Panzer III and IVs produced with better internal filters , I guess the cars had no room in the engine compartment for them
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Re: SdKfz 222/223/260/261 - 3D Prototype 161111
« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2016, 10:28:22 pm »
the Sd.Kfz. 223 Funk Luftwaffe was used during the blitzkrieg period as a "ground correspondant" for the Henschel Hs 126 .


working with the panzer divisions .



as you can see, without the "desert filter"  ;)
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Re: SdKfz 222/223/260/261 - 3D Prototype Painted 170211
« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2017, 09:54:36 pm »
It has been exactly 3 months without an update on this little beast!

Here is a painted prototype of the SdKfz 222... completed with full autocannon
assembly, rotatable and elevating gun, open or closed turret mesh, and options
to build a SdKfz 223 as well.  If sprue space is available, the kit will also be able
to build a SdKfz 260/261 too!  More photos to follow...



Enjoy!
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Re: SdKfz 222/223/260/261 - 3D Prototype Painted 170211
« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2017, 10:38:56 pm »
Looks awesome. 

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Re: SdKfz 222/223/260/261 - 3D Prototype Painted 170211
« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2017, 10:57:49 pm »
Definitely want a number of those.

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Re: SdKfz 222/223/260/261 - 3D Prototype Painted 170211
« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2017, 11:07:38 pm »
Showing us both the Sherman M4A3 and this in the same day , too much awesomeness to take in at once .... :)

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Re: SdKfz 222/223/260/261 - 3D Prototype Painted 170211
« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2017, 11:13:25 pm »
Showing us both the Sherman M4A3 and this in the same day , too much awesomeness to take in at once .... :)

People had been complaining about us releasing too much teasers and not able to buy the actual kit.  We felt disturbed and distressed as we are not able to release these creations fast enough!  With design work going digital, the bottleneck had always been in mould making.  There is simply no other means to speed up the mould making process.  We can draw and print out projects at lightning speed, but will go nowhere without mould making...  Is a sad reality!

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Re: SdKfz 222/223/260/261 - 3D Prototype Painted 170211
« Reply #43 on: February 12, 2017, 09:13:21 am »
No complaints from me. I like to see what is in the pipeline. As a 1939 vehicle this one will be on my shopping list. 

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Re: SdKfz 222/223/260/261 - 3D Prototype Painted 170211
« Reply #44 on: February 12, 2017, 10:18:06 pm »
Definitely want a number of those.

Me too  8)