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ultravanillasmurf

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Allied Stowage set 2 wishlist
« on: January 04, 2017, 06:11:51 pm »
Having combined AN Other's Sherman kit with Rubicon's stowage, these are some of my wish list items for a second Allied Stowage set:

Individual Sherman track pieces to be combined on the turret.

Three link spare track rack for the Sherman glacis

Tools, specifically those for Shermans including the big tension wrench thing.

Water bottles, individual and in groups.

Small arms ammo boxes.

British tanker helmets

Fire extinguishers

Tank and artillery rounds including the tubes.

Smoke mortar (external fitting)

Smoke dischargers (pair).

Spare track unit for M5 for rear of hull

Churchill track links (and the late model Churchill to go with it) again for use as add on armour

Replacement M5 grousers to replace moulded detail (also usable on the M5 derived tractor)

I am sure I have missed other useful stuff (I also would like a Panzerschreck box to go on a command tank, but that is for the German Stowage wish list).

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Re: Allied Stowage set 2 wishlist
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2017, 06:49:00 pm »
Great list.  I would add:

- pressed metal ammo boxes (e.g. 6-pdr, 25-pdr), frequently welded to British tanks for extra stowage
- British pattern packs, individual and in groups
- infantry telephone
- pots & pans

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Re: Allied Stowage set 2 wishlist
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2017, 02:27:10 am »
A previous wish list that might be relevant:
http://forum.rubiconmodels.com/index.php?topic=428.0

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Re: Allied Stowage set 2 wishlist
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2017, 10:43:56 am »
A previous wish list that might be relevant:
http://forum.rubiconmodels.com/index.php?topic=428.0

Yes, I would actually prefer an 'all nations' set of ammo boxes and other containers. 

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« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2017, 05:22:39 pm »
A previous wish list that might be relevant:
http://forum.rubiconmodels.com/index.php?topic=428.0

Yes, I would actually prefer an 'all nations' set of ammo boxes and other containers.
The metal ammo boxes seem popular on the Sherman photographs in my books, my plastickard-fu is weak and have not managed a good representation of them.

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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2017, 09:20:25 pm »
While you can find HO scale freight boxes close enough to the right size , they really lack the distinctive pressed metal pattern of UK ammo boxes .  I tend  hide the ones I've used under a tarp or camo net , or pile other kit over them .  At least the scale size looks right and fools the eye .  Hopefully when we do get scale ammo boxes I can remove the fake and replace them

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Re: Allied Stowage set 2 wishlist
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2017, 08:40:08 pm »
I would add my vote to including pressed steel ammo cases. The were used extensively on vehicles for storage, and many have distinctive pressing.

In particular - British cases B166, B167, C225, and P59. These is also another ammo case style that appears on many vehicles - a long flat case, probably used as a toolbox - but I dont know the code for that style...

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Re: Allied Stowage set 2 wishlist
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2017, 09:08:31 pm »
B166 ammo case - for mortar ammo:



I'm trying to find similarly clear pictures of the others.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2017, 09:25:38 pm by Pinky »

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Re: Allied Stowage set 2 wishlist
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2017, 10:33:42 pm »
... is also another ammo case style that appears on many vehicles - a long flat case, probably used as a toolbox - but I dont know the code for that style...

Is it a Panzerschreck box?
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205195344

Has Brigadier Harvey's Sherman got welded up direct vision ports?
« Last Edit: January 15, 2017, 11:01:33 pm by ultravanillasmurf »

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Re: Allied Stowage set 2 wishlist
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2017, 01:08:47 am »
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Is it a Panzerschreck box?

Here is what I was thinking of - another style of British/Allied pressed steel case:



Apologies for the poor picture - but it should be good enough to show that it has the recessed handles, and clip closures.

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Re: Allied Stowage set 2 wishlist
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2017, 01:13:23 am »
Looks like one

 I think the vision ports are welded up , pictures of working ports show a very crisp , sharp line around the port , this tank looks to have the edges covered over , welded  or just dirt ?
« Last Edit: January 16, 2017, 01:16:24 am by ripley »

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Re: Allied Stowage set 2 wishlist
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2017, 01:17:52 am »
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Is it a Panzerschreck box?

Here is what I was thinking of - another style of British/Allied pressed steel case:



Apologies for the poor picture - but it should be good enough to show that it has the recessed handles, and clip closures.

That looks like two boxes. It should be possible to estimate the size from the photograph.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2017, 01:26:24 am by ultravanillasmurf »

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Re: Allied Stowage set 2 wishlist
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2017, 02:16:36 am »
Another view (so the "top" as fitted to the carriers):




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Re: Allied Stowage set 2 wishlist
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2017, 05:32:15 pm »
Those are weird and as you say one piece.

My guess is they are Bazooka shipping boxes. This is based on size and that Panzerschreck boxes were (probably) wood.

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Re: Allied Stowage set 2 wishlist
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2017, 05:37:07 pm »
Probably better on the wish list late model Churchill, but spare Churchill bogies would be useful. They were often carried on the rear deck.