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General Discussions / Re: The North African Campaign 1940-43
« on: August 29, 2015, 12:41:22 am »
Some of those descriptions are a bit hard to decipher. Here are some additions and corrections:
British
There were no M3A1 Grants - they were all based on the M3 (the M3A1 had a cast hull).
The British also used a few M3 Lees.
Plus the armoured cars and scout cars: Marmon Herrington Armoured Car (the most common type before Tunisia), Humber Light Reconnaissance Car (first used in Tunisia), Humber Armoured Car (these began arriving from late 1941), Daimler Armoured Car (present in small numbers from 1942) and Daimler Dingo Scout Car (present throughout). Armoured cars were a crucial aspect of the North African campaign.
German
Dunno about the "PzJag 38(t)M Marten III 75mm 11t TD" - is this a reference to the SdKfz 138 Marder III Ausf H (Panzerjager 38(t) fur 7.5cm Pak 40/3)? There is no evidence that any of these found their way to North Africa.
The "PzJag 38(t) 76.2mm 12t TD" is presumably the SdKfz 139 Marder III (Panzerjager 38(t) fur 7.62cm Pak 36(r)) - right? 66 of these went to North Africa in 1942, which actually makes them quite an important Afrika Korps vehicle.
23 15cm s.F.H. 13 (Sfl.) auf Lorraine Schlepper were shipped to North Africa in 1942.
The SdKfz 251/3 was also used.
There were also the armoured cars: SdKfz 221, SdKfz 222, SdKfz 231, SdKfz 232, SdKfz 263 and SdKfz 233. These were iconic Afrika Korps vehicles.
US Army
The US Army didn't use the M4A2. It used the M4 and M4A1 (and, later, after the North African campaign, the M4A3).
The US Army used both the M3 and M3A1 light tank. They look similar, but the M3A1 didn't have a cupola.
The M10A1 wasn't used in North Africa, just the M10.
Other important vehicles used were:
M3 75mm GMC (75mm cannon mounted on M3 halftrack - an early tank destroyer, which proved largely unsuccessful)
T19 105mm HMC (105mm howitzer mounted on M3 halftrack - precursor to the M7)
T28E1 CGMC (anti-aircraft vehicle with 37mm automatic cannon plus a pair of .50 cal heavy machine guns - the most common AA tank, and reasonably effective)
And how about the Italians?
British
There were no M3A1 Grants - they were all based on the M3 (the M3A1 had a cast hull).
The British also used a few M3 Lees.
Plus the armoured cars and scout cars: Marmon Herrington Armoured Car (the most common type before Tunisia), Humber Light Reconnaissance Car (first used in Tunisia), Humber Armoured Car (these began arriving from late 1941), Daimler Armoured Car (present in small numbers from 1942) and Daimler Dingo Scout Car (present throughout). Armoured cars were a crucial aspect of the North African campaign.
German
Dunno about the "PzJag 38(t)M Marten III 75mm 11t TD" - is this a reference to the SdKfz 138 Marder III Ausf H (Panzerjager 38(t) fur 7.5cm Pak 40/3)? There is no evidence that any of these found their way to North Africa.
The "PzJag 38(t) 76.2mm 12t TD" is presumably the SdKfz 139 Marder III (Panzerjager 38(t) fur 7.62cm Pak 36(r)) - right? 66 of these went to North Africa in 1942, which actually makes them quite an important Afrika Korps vehicle.
23 15cm s.F.H. 13 (Sfl.) auf Lorraine Schlepper were shipped to North Africa in 1942.
The SdKfz 251/3 was also used.
There were also the armoured cars: SdKfz 221, SdKfz 222, SdKfz 231, SdKfz 232, SdKfz 263 and SdKfz 233. These were iconic Afrika Korps vehicles.
US Army
The US Army didn't use the M4A2. It used the M4 and M4A1 (and, later, after the North African campaign, the M4A3).
The US Army used both the M3 and M3A1 light tank. They look similar, but the M3A1 didn't have a cupola.
The M10A1 wasn't used in North Africa, just the M10.
Other important vehicles used were:
M3 75mm GMC (75mm cannon mounted on M3 halftrack - an early tank destroyer, which proved largely unsuccessful)
T19 105mm HMC (105mm howitzer mounted on M3 halftrack - precursor to the M7)
T28E1 CGMC (anti-aircraft vehicle with 37mm automatic cannon plus a pair of .50 cal heavy machine guns - the most common AA tank, and reasonably effective)
And how about the Italians?