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SdKfz 222/223/260/261 - Question?? 180426
« on: October 15, 2016, 01:02:00 pm »
Save this space... Yes, another German vehicle is coming!   ;D
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Re: Save this space... another German vehicle coming! 161015
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2016, 01:24:56 am »
C'mon..............Early Panzer III !!!

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Re: Save this space... another German vehicle coming! 161015
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2016, 03:26:17 am »
It does say vehicle, which may mean something other than a tank...

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Re: Save this space... another German vehicle coming! 161015
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2016, 05:22:13 am »
While the hint of a new vehicle is very exciting , I would really like to see your Maultier , motorbike , 251 add on kits , jeeps  and crew figures in the shops  :)  On the other hand I do realize that taking a concept from idea , to cad , to master , to plastic , to the stores  takes time . But I'm not getting any younger  ::)

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Re: Save this space... another German vehicle coming! 161015
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2016, 05:44:08 am »
Have to agree with you there Ripley.
I am in desperate need for some 251 crews & Tank Commanders to complete all the models ive built so far.

Assuming the next German model is not a tank then i really hope it will be an SD.kfz. 7 multi kit so you can build either Prime mover or one of the flak wagons.

Cheers
Tim

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Re: Save this space... another German vehicle coming! 161015
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2016, 10:07:23 am »
I think it might be the revamped Panzer IV, since that was discussed a little while back.

But if it's not a tank, then I'd like it to be an armoured car.

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Re: Save this space... another German vehicle coming! 161015
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2016, 12:05:07 pm »
Seems like everyone is keen to know... we have decided to work on the
Panzer IV first, Panzer III will come later.  Research had begun, should
everything goes smoothly, we might be able to create 3 box sets!

As for this particular project... will post something soon!  ;)
« Last Edit: October 16, 2016, 03:59:50 pm by Rubicon Models »

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Re: Save this space... another German vehicle coming! 161015
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2016, 10:03:50 pm »
C'mon..............Early Panzer III !!!
  I know. I remember Rubicon stating in another post that they would start with their rework of their Panzer IV first.
  It was just wishful thinking.........

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Re: Save this space... another German vehicle coming! 161015
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2016, 05:37:33 am »
Another German one  :'( :'(
We need more British stuff
Cheers

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Re: Save this space... another German vehicle coming! 161015
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2016, 07:39:11 am »
Panzer 1V ausf J ......PLEASE ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Save this space... another German vehicle coming! 161015
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2016, 04:02:24 pm »
The long wait is over!   Introducing the SdKfz 222/223/260/261 project...

The Leichter Panzerspähwagen (German: roughly "light armoured reconnaissance vehicle") was a series of light four-wheel drive armoured cars produced by Nazi Germany from 1935 to 1944.

Designed to meet operational requirements including reliability, run on a variety of grades of fuel, simple construction and good off-road performance the first such vehicle was the SdKfz 221 but this proved too small and too lightly armed, so in 1936-37 a heavier version was planned, using one of two standard chassis for four-wheel armoured cars, one with a front-mounted engine, the other rear mounted version, was used in the SdKfz 222, which became the standard light armoured car in German army service until the defeat of Nazi Germany.

SdKfz 222
This version of the vehicle was armed with a 2cm KwK 30 L/55 autocannon and a 7.92mm MG13 machine gun. The crew was increased to three by the addition of a gunner, relieving the commander of that task. In 1938, the MG13 was replaced by a Maschinengewehr 34, in 1942 the KwK30 was replaced by the faster firing KwK38 of the same calibre. Production ran from 1937 to late 1943, with at least 990 vehicles being produced for the army. Its full name was Leichter Panzerspähwagen (2cm).

SdKfz 223
An armoured car with similar features to the SdKfz 221, but with the addition of a frame antenna and a 30-watt FuG10 medium-range radio set. Later versions of the vehicle were equipped with an improved 80-watt FuG12 radio set. It was originally armed with a 7.92mm MG13 machine gun, but in 1938 this was changed to a Maschinengewehr 34. The crew was increased to three by the addition of a radio operator. Production ran from 1936 to January 1944, with at least 567 vehicles being produced for the army. Its full name was Leichter Panzerspähwagen (Fu).

Kleiner Panzerfunkwagen SdKfz 260/261
Unarmed radio car versions with long range radio equipment and a large "bed-frame" antenna over the vehicle. Generally used for signals use, three were used as armoured cars in Finland. The SdKfz 260 was equipped with radio sets to communicate with aircraft, the SdKfz 261 with radio sets to communicate with other Heer units. By 1 September 1940, the manufacturers had orders for 36 SdKfz 260 and 289 SdKfz 261. Production ran from April 1941 to April 1943, with 483 vehicles of both types being produced.


Proposed Features:
• Four build options to either assemble as a SdKfz 222 / SdKfz 223 / SdKfz 260 / SdKfz 261
• Choice of road wheel rims
• Interior details around the turret area included
• Full detail cannon
• Open or closed turret mesh (wire mesh anti-grenade screens)
•  Bedframe antenna
• Optional stowage
• One gun crew
• All new decal sheet
• Assembly instruction

















Enjoy!
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Re: The Long Wait is OVER... SdKfz 222/223/260/261 - 161026
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2016, 04:16:07 pm »
This is great news!  Another very useful and attractive vehicle. 

It looks as though the jerrycan rack on the SdKfz 223 is modelled on the Tamiya kit.  It's worth pointing out that it's not particularly accurate, although it's often copied.  Jerrycan racks were common on the desert version of all German armoured cars.  There were also various additional stowage boxes - it would be great if these could be included as options.

Really pleased to see this one coming in kit form!   

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Re: The Long Wait is OVER... SdKfz 222/223/260/261 - 161026
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2016, 04:30:47 pm »
It looks as though the jerrycan rack on the SdKfz 223 is modelled on the Tamiya kit.  It's worth pointing out that it's not particularly accurate, although it's often copied.

It might be the case, we are using references from reenactment vehicles as a base.  Historically, stowage choices are numerous!


Jerrycan racks were common on the desert version of all German armoured cars.  There were also various additional stowage boxes - it would be great if these could be included as options.

It will depend on how many sprues are needed.  From the look of it, this may be a 3 sprue kit... should be able to include some stowage!

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Re: The Long Wait is OVER... SdKfz 222/223/260/261 - 161026
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2016, 05:08:16 pm »
Hooray!

Excellent choice.

Now I would like a British equivalent vehicle ^___^.

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Re: The Long Wait is OVER... SdKfz 222/223/260/261 - 161026
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2016, 07:41:28 pm »
It might be the case, we are using references from reenactment vehicles as a base.  Historically, stowage choices are numerous!

That's never a good source; restored vehicles are often based on unreliable research (including plastic kits) or shortcuts due to unavailable parts.  I'll see what I have.