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Rubicon Models => Wish Lists => Topic started by: airborne on February 05, 2015, 02:31:51 am

Title: Dodge Truck Series
Post by: airborne on February 05, 2015, 02:31:51 am
I`d like to see the whole Dodge Range from  Command Car to 3/4 , 11/2  gun carriage and ambulance these have been done in 20mm and 1/35 but never to my knowledge in 1/56. .Yet they were the historic back bones of the U.S forces.
Cheers all.
Title: Re: Dodge Truck Series
Post by: elias.tibbs on February 15, 2015, 06:39:21 pm
I would love a 3/4 ton dodge truck
Title: Re: Dodge Truck Series
Post by: Rubicon Models on February 15, 2015, 11:02:45 pm
There are many variations of WW2 era Dodge trucks, need to identify one series that can create multiple options.  In terms of game rules, US trucks are less useful...

 ::)
Title: Re: Dodge Truck Series
Post by: ripley on February 15, 2015, 11:47:03 pm
IMO you should make a generic version of the Deuce and a half .  I don't know how many companies had a hand in producing them but GM , Ford , Chev , Studebaker , Dodge and International sent over 190000 to Russia as lend lease . Just pick one , give it the option of hard top / soft top cab , with / with out the AA MG ring mount, standard  or winch front bumper , and a cover for the cargo area . And if possible the fold down seats in the rear for those of us who want to add seated troops  . It would be good for all combatants , allies and axis , all theaters .if possible a generic driver figure ( like the one in the Warlord / Italeri halftrack ), with separate head would be nice , those of us wanting to make a specific vehicle could raid our parts box for the proper German of Brit head .
Title: Re: Dodge Truck Series
Post by: Rubicon Models on February 16, 2015, 03:12:49 am
Ripley: That was our original plan.  Seems like there are no "generic" version.  Almost all manufacturers had some variations on the design.  We have researched a couple of them and are very confusing.  For lend lease trucks to Russia (like the Studebaker), they were not used by the Americans.  We are trying to sort out all available information before deciding what to do next...

:)
Title: Re: Dodge Truck Series
Post by: airborne on February 16, 2015, 04:07:27 am
Max models 1/35  started with the Dodge command then  the 3/4 ton  with and with out gun then 11/2 ton 6 wheeler then Ambulance, wheels, chassie , front wings  bonet and windscreens were all the same and release  formate stayed the same when in 20mm .
Cheers.
Title: Re: Dodge Truck Series
Post by: ripley on February 16, 2015, 05:46:32 am
Lots of little detail differences in all those trucks , for sure , that's  why I said generic , if it looks like a Deuce and a half .... no probably not   ::)  . You could do a Studebaker truck / Katyusha combo kit for the Russians . Everybody wants a Stalin Organ to bombard the Germans .  :)
Title: Re: Dodge Truck Series
Post by: airborne on February 18, 2015, 03:57:57 am
OH  Boy Yes. Ear plugs any one !
Cheers
Title: Re: Dodge Truck Series
Post by: sandsmodels on February 20, 2015, 05:29:24 pm
the gmc cckw 353 was used by all allied nations including usa, Russia and gb so better than a Studebaker, although the Russians and gb had more studes than gmc's!
Title: Re: Dodge Truck Series
Post by: Pinky on February 20, 2015, 08:13:14 pm
Looks as though Rubicon is right - the Soviets only used Studebakers, and the US Army didn't use them.  The GMC and Studebaker cabs are different, but wouldn't the chassis and cargo bay be the same?
Title: Re: Dodge Truck Series
Post by: ripley on February 20, 2015, 09:52:04 pm
Personally I think Rubicon should make a generic Deuce wheels and drive train and maybe the cargo area  on one sprue and then make the other sprue   manufacturer specific ie : GMC , Ford or International . IRC some versions had different styles of transfer cases for the front axle so a couple might have to be molded on the generic sprue . They could even get a DUKW  kit out of the parts with a little bit of thought
Title: Re: Dodge Truck Series
Post by: sandsmodels on February 21, 2015, 09:10:59 pm
the Russians had gmc's just not as many as the Studebaker so make the gmc and everyone can use it!
Title: Re: Dodge Truck Series
Post by: elias.tibbs on February 24, 2015, 05:23:18 am
WC51 maybe?

Can get varients out of it.. Standard, command, medical, ammo carrier, etc

Plus currently there's one company that make them and it's not that good..
Title: Re: Dodge Truck Series
Post by: sandsmodels on February 24, 2015, 07:58:28 pm
the dodge weapons carrier series would be great loads of options inc a 6x6 and used by all allied nations including Russia.
Title: Re: Dodge Truck Series
Post by: airborne on February 24, 2015, 11:10:23 pm
I first came aware of Dodge kits way back when Max models did there 1/35 series then taken over by Airfix. The command car came with a water trailer and I built mine as 101 AB at Bastogne. The same series was made in 1/87 by Roco minitanks and then in 1/72 by ? (Fugimi) numerous resin white metal manufacturers have done varied quality  models, so surely it`s time to have these iconic models in 1/56.  Many of the parts are duplicated just perfect for Rubicon.
Cheers   
Title: Re: Dodge Truck Series
Post by: Old Guard on November 19, 2018, 10:34:37 pm
OK a swift dabble in necromancy. I love dodge weapon carriers! so much so that I am looking at owning one...a real one, at some point . There's a divorce to get out of the way first  ::) not to mention saving more pennies! but since I have a friend with a jeep I've just got to have my own vehicle

Anyhoo- I see the comments and I think we kind of lost our way here as this started to go down other avenues away from the original post.

Lets just focus on the Dodge.  its the most iconic and there are likely enough variants that it would warrant 2 kits, one with the standard weapon carrier ( and the gun carriage options) possibly being able to accommodate the 6 wheel option? and another that has the command car, ambulance and the ....cant remember the name of it but its a windowed box body. The alternative is one kit and several 'add on' options.

It ticks the boxes in what I perceive Rubicon want to achieve, serving the war gaming community but also the scale modeler. I know what you mean about rules and vehicle use but I  think there is a bit of chicken and egg here- do you wait for the rule writers (who also make kits) to  add new items before you do them or do you do them and let the community apply pressure for rules. I'm picking armies that are a bit different  with odd or unique vehicles just so they aren't run of the mill or, fairly standard armies but keeping historically accurate so, Lloyd carrier ( THANK YOU!!!!!)  towing my 6 Pounder rather than a Bren carrier, because that's what the historical material says they used... So good folk....if you wouldn't mind, can we get the Dodge on the list please?

PS - picked up some of the latest releases at Warfare this weekend- Much goodness!  the LVT  and the 88 are superb! Good to See Steve and Andy on the Rubicon stand - met them earlier in the Year in Bovington- and a fine job they were doing too!