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Rubicon Models => Work In Progress => Topic started by: Rubicon Models on June 09, 2017, 05:08:03 pm

Title: LVT Project - British Crew & 20mm Polsten Gun 181121
Post by: Rubicon Models on June 09, 2017, 05:08:03 pm
Another US War Machine in the making... what is it?

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT-A1-170609-1_zps0uqeo8sq.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: Another US War Machine in the making... what is it?
Post by: ripley on June 09, 2017, 08:01:49 pm
Looks like a LVT (1) , the US designed amphibious troop carrier with the M3 Stuart turret  . Hopefully the groucers on the turret sides will not be on the finished kit , they where not needed on this vehicle and the track being different , wouldn't fit anyway ;D
(https://s10.postimg.org/8tgh8xp91/DSC08864_copy.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/8tgh8xp91/)
Title: Re: Another US War Machine in the making... what is it?
Post by: H0ffmn on June 10, 2017, 01:12:54 am
Hopefully they release the M4 , M4A1, and M4A2 before this
Title: Re: Another US War Machine in the making... what is it?
Post by: Rubicon Models on June 10, 2017, 01:24:44 am
Hopefully they release the M4, M4A1, and M4A2 before this

We will make sure all the M4s are done before releasing any new US vehicles.  This project is handled by a different team too.
Title: Re: Another US War Machine in the making... what is it?
Post by: Pinky on June 10, 2017, 02:15:28 am
The LVT(A)-1 didn't have an actual M3 turret.  It was a modified M3A3/M51 turret without the bustle.  The rear plate was flat.  There were no grousers.  The side hatch forward of the turret had a horizontal handle and was wider.
Title: Re: Another US War Machine in the making... what is it?
Post by: H0ffmn on June 10, 2017, 04:03:58 am
Hopefully they release the M4, M4A1, and M4A2 before this


We will make sure all the M4s are done before releasing any new US vehicles.  This project is handled by a different team too.
Sounds good. Thanks.
Title: Re: Another US War Machine in the making... what is it?
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 10, 2017, 04:28:00 am
I hope you improve the light on the turret top.
Title: Re: Another US War Machine in the making... what is it?
Post by: Rubicon Models on June 10, 2017, 06:35:15 am
The LVT(A)-1 didn't have an actual M3 turret.  It was a modified M3A3/M51 turret without the bustle.  The rear plate was flat.  There were no grousers.  The side hatch forward of the turret had a horizontal handle and was wider.

The current turret is a stand in until the new turret is done.
Title: Re: Another US War Machine in the making... what is it?
Post by: sandsmodels on June 10, 2017, 08:33:29 pm
lvta1
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 turret 170619
Post by: Rubicon Models on June 19, 2017, 07:23:21 pm
@Pinky, this is the correct turret... call it done!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT-A1-170619-1_zpsy42vzrow.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 & LVT(A)4 170714
Post by: Rubicon Models on July 14, 2017, 02:59:44 pm
The LVT(A)1 was the first infantry support Landing Vehicle Tracked (LVT) used by
the US army in 1942, followed by the LVT(A)4 in 1944. Both saw services in Asia
Pacific and Europe. This is, by far, the largest plastic kit Rubicon Models had tackled
in 1/56 (28mm) scale. Stay tuned for further updates!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA1amp4%20170714-01_zps2so3dnc9.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA1amp4%20170714-02_zps2fl4xubv.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA1amp4%20170714-03_zpsmbcm6tuy.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA1amp4%20170714-04_zpsdipsosjy.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA1amp4%20170714-05_zpsivyyptia.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA1amp4%20170714-06_zpskttxedfc.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA1amp4%20170714-07_zpse0eh1jcp.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA1amp4%20170714-08_zps9snwtebt.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA1amp4%20170714-09_zpsgweljo2b.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA1amp4%20170714-10_zps9ohcagwt.jpg)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 & LVT(A)4 170714
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on July 14, 2017, 04:14:54 pm
Looks nice, though not sure what I would do with it.

Trying to convince ShieldWolf that they want to do their heroic scale tanks to a similar (but non competitive) design but with non PETA compliant accessories rather than looking like a Mark one Rhino.
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 & LVT(A)4 170714
Post by: oreoc23 on July 15, 2017, 03:59:59 am
Have you guys thought about adding a Waterline version to go along with the full size Model? I think most of us Gamers would be "willing to pay a Little Extra" for Both! I do beach landing, so I would like to add a Waterline Model. Think about adding a Poll if you're not sure... The LVT-2 Alligator, armored & unarmored could also be an option (Over the sides)...
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 & LVT(A)4 170714
Post by: Rubicon Models on July 15, 2017, 10:25:57 am
Have you guys thought about adding a Waterline version to go along with the full size Model? I think most of us Gamers would be "willing to pay a Little Extra" for Both! I do beach landing, so I would like to add a Waterline Model. Think about adding a Poll if you're not sure... The LVT-2 Alligator, armored & unarmored could also be an option (Over the sides)...

From the design team, there is a waterline option for the build, but would not be two separate models.  This is already a 4 sprue kit and will not be able to fit additional parts to the project without a fifth sprue; that would well over our project budget!
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 & LVT(A)4 170714
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on July 15, 2017, 03:05:03 pm
Any chance that the below the waterline part plugs in to the above the water line part like your track units, so the modeller can swap between the two modes?

Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 & LVT(A)4 170714
Post by: Pinky on July 15, 2017, 04:11:46 pm
Any chance that the below the waterline part plugs in to the above the water line part like your track units, so the modeller can swap between the two modes?

Maybe leave that one to the converters...

Both of these vehicles were fire support vehicles.  I'm assuming there isn't enough space on the sprues to include parts for the basic troop carrier version as well.  Wargamers are more likely to want the troop carrier in preference to a fire support vehicle (if you think about it, you're going to need several basic LVTs, supported by a couple of turreted variants, to re-enact an amphibious assault).  My suggestion would be to include the basic troop carrier instead of one of these variants (even though these are both arguably more interesting models). 

Some LVT(A)4's had a raised cowling around the .50 cal position.  It looks quite good.  Any chance of including this?
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 & LVT(A)4 170714
Post by: ripley on July 15, 2017, 09:19:55 pm
I was thinking that just using the upper hull for a waterline model like work as well ,till I looked up some photos . It seem to ride higher out of the water so your going to need part of the upper track run to look right .
(https://s13.postimg.org/sud9xw9f7/Gators-44.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/sud9xw9f7/)
That would make it a very complicated 4 sprue kit or a 5 sprue kit which gets away from Rubicon's trying to keep parts count and prices reasonable . That being said , I would probably get a couple of 5 sprue kits  ::)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 & LVT(A)4 170714
Post by: elias.tibbs on July 18, 2017, 03:07:26 am
Or make the waterline version in resin.
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 & LVT(A)4 170714
Post by: ripley on July 18, 2017, 10:52:13 am
That could work  :) . If Rubicon planned the placement of parts on the sprues carefully they could supply a single plastic sprue with the turret parts and a resin water line hull
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 Prototype Preview 170728
Post by: Rubicon Models on July 28, 2017, 11:44:08 pm
Internet had been acting up, so cannot upload too much images...
Just a close up of the LVT(A)1 turret!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA1%20Prototype%20170728-1_zps0mpghpvy.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 Prototype Preview 170728
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on July 29, 2017, 03:51:23 am
Very good.
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 Prototype Preview 170728
Post by: Pinky on July 29, 2017, 08:12:38 pm
Looks pretty good.  The interior hatch detail could be better. 

I repeat my earlier comment - it would make a lot more sense to include the basic troop transport version in this kit.  It seems like a big missed opportunity to focus on the fire support versions.  This is a vital vehicle for anyone who wargames the Pacific theatre.
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 Prototype Preview 170728
Post by: Rubicon Models on July 29, 2017, 10:09:15 pm
Looks pretty good.  The interior hatch detail could be better. 

This is just preliminary design. Will add more details and refinement as we move along towards mould making.


I repeat my earlier comment - it would make a lot more sense to include the basic troop transport version in this kit.  It seems like a big missed opportunity to focus on the fire support versions.  This is a vital vehicle for anyone who wargames the Pacific theatre.

The LVT-4 was visually different in terms of layout and design.  We will focus on the LVT(A)1 and LVT(A)4 first before moving onto another variant.  We estimate this to be at least a 4 or 5 sprue kit!  Making more sprues for other variants will meant more budget!
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 Prototype Preview 170728
Post by: Pinky on July 30, 2017, 02:05:47 am
The LVT-4 was the later version with a rear ramp (known as 'Buffalo' to the British); including this would clearly require too many parts.  That's not the version I meant.

The LVT-2 was the vehicle upon which these 2 fire support versions were based.  It had the same layout, with the engine in the rear.  The driver's compartment was different, being taller and lacking the roof hatches.  And of course it had an open-topped troop compartment.  But it's essentially the same vehicle from the hull top down - aside from the interior (which I'm sure Rubicon could include with some clever moulding), it wouldn't require a lot of additional parts.

The LVT-2 wasn't armoured, although they were often up-armoured in field workshops (and was later manufactured with an armoured driver's compartment).  So an armoured version, the LVT(A)-2, was developed.  This had the same driver's compartment as the LVT(A)-1 and LVT(A)-4.  Apparently the LVT(A)-2 was only supplied to the Army, although from photos I it seems to have seen service with the Marines too. 

It's also worth remembering that the LVT(A)-1 was fairly quickly superseded by the LVT(A)-4, although not completely.  The 37mm gun wasn't very effective in providing fire support.  So it wasn't particularly successful at what it was intended to do.   It was the LVT-2 which was the most numerous amtrac type used in the Pacific, and the vehicle most wargamers will want in quantity.  That should translate into higher sales.  I've noticed that the response to this kit on the Facebook site is also to request a troop carrier version.
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 Prototype Preview 170728
Post by: Rubicon Models on July 30, 2017, 11:13:56 am
It's also worth remembering that the LVT(A)-1 was fairly quickly superseded by the LVT(A)-4, although not completely.  The 37mm gun wasn't very effective in providing fire support.  So it wasn't particularly successful at what it was intended to do.

That's true... this is why this kit will built either the LVT(A)1 or the LVT(A)4.  Will look into the LVT-2 later...


I've noticed that the response to this kit on the Facebook site is also to request a troop carrier version.

Since when you started using Facebook?  ;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 Prototype Preview 170728
Post by: Pinky on July 30, 2017, 04:17:39 pm
Since when you started using Facebook?  ;)

I don't -  I just look at your FB page sometimes.  You put up stuff there that doesn't make it to this site. 
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 Prototype 170730
Post by: Rubicon Models on July 30, 2017, 06:19:54 pm
A perk of joining this forum is you usually will get most postings ahead of those on Facebook...
The LVT(A)1 prototype in its full glory!  This is by far the largest vehicle we have done up-to-date!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA1%20Prototype%20170730-01_zpsdjnslwvu.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA1%20Prototype%20170730-02_zpsap6t2afg.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA1%20Prototype%20170730-03_zpst0oay4in.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA1%20Prototype%20170730-04_zps3nglvjyd.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA1%20Prototype%20170730-05_zpsfzcctrfj.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA1%20Prototype%20170730-06_zpstndrmxy7.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA1%20Prototype%20170730-07_zpsgcqksbqa.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA1%20Prototype%20170730-08_zpsa0w4ojcu.jpg)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 Prototype 170730
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on July 30, 2017, 09:37:50 pm
Nice, no idea what I would do with it.
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 Prototype 170730
Post by: Rubicon Models on July 30, 2017, 10:22:23 pm
Nice, no idea what I would do with it.

Start a PTO army!  ;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Prototype 170801
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 01, 2017, 12:16:52 pm
August brings a fresh LVT variant into the scene... the LVT(A)4!

The 37mm gun of the LVT(A)1 was inadequate for fire support version so the turret of the 75mm Howitzer Motor Carriage M8 (armed with a 75mm howitzer) was used to produce the LVT(A)4. A single .50 cal machine gun was installed on the ring mount above the turret rear. In the late production vehicles the heavy machine gun was replaced with two M1919A4 .30 MGs on pintle mounts and one more in the bow mount. 1,890 units produced, and 1,307 were transferred to US Army and 50 to British Army.

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA4%20Prototype%20170730-01_zpshceagj7e.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA4%20Prototype%20170730-02_zps1qxyjycn.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA4%20Prototype%20170730-03_zps5n89c2mt.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA4%20Prototype%20170730-04_zpsiierotdv.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA4%20Prototype%20170730-05_zpsmva3w7gr.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA4%20Prototype%20170730-06_zpsfrufz7bu.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA4%20Prototype%20170730-07_zpsusqsrx87.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA4%20Prototype%20170730-08_zpsi0qtaghu.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA4%20Prototype%20170730-09_zpsdwqhda0m.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA4%20Prototype%20170730-10_zpsyoidczwp.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA4%20Prototype%20170730-11_zpsny2hy7zt.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA4%20Prototype%20170730-12_zpsywnibm2d.jpg)

Enjoy!
 ;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Prototype 170801
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on August 01, 2017, 03:21:16 pm
More nice details.

I assume due to moulding limitations the rear of the track run is not quite as detailed?

Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Prototype 170801
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 01, 2017, 03:32:28 pm
I assume due to moulding limitations the rear of the track run is not quite as detailed?

The track design is totally different this time! Full details all round!!  ;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Prototype 170801
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on August 01, 2017, 06:18:12 pm
I assume due to moulding limitations the rear of the track run is not quite as detailed?

The track design is totally different this time! Full details all round!!  ;)

Yay!

Look forward to seeing the new design.
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Need Help 170803
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 03, 2017, 12:47:29 am
Had been trying to find more info on the subject...
Anyone with more information?

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA4%20Flamer%20170802-1_zpsxu9iddh4.jpg)

Thanks!
;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Need Help 170803
Post by: Pinky on August 03, 2017, 01:45:59 am
According to Zaloga's books on amtracs, the flamethrower version of the LVT(A)-4 was developed but didn't see active service.  The only flame-throwing version that saw service was a modified LVT-4 troop carrier with the flamethrower behind an improvised shield. 

If you're looking for options, later versions of the LVT(A)-1 and LVT(A)-4 had a ball-mounted .30 cal in the hull, and later LVT(A)-4s had a modified turret with 2 shielded .30 cals instead of the ring-mounted .50 cal.  These were known unofficially as the 'Marianas Model'.
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Need Help 170803
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 03, 2017, 01:51:44 am
According to Zaloga's books on amtracs, the flamethrower version of the LVT(A)-4 was developed but didn't see active service.  The only flame-throwing version that saw service was a modified LVT-4 troop carrier with the flamethrower behind an improvised shield. 

That was one point that we would like to confirm RE: flamethrower.  We do have some info on the LVT-4 one.


If you're looking for options, later versions of the LVT(A)-1 and LVT(A)-4 had a ball-mounted .30 cal in the hull, and later LVT(A)-4s had a modified turret with 2 shielded .30 cals instead of the ring-mounted .50 cal.  These were known unofficially as the 'Marianas Model'.

The ball-mounted hull MG is already incorporated in the design (not shown).  As for the .30 cal modification, we probably will not include them in the kit.  Thanks!
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Need Help 170803
Post by: ripley on August 03, 2017, 08:12:43 am
British & American Tanks of WW2 ( Chamberlain / Ellis ) has a paragraph on the flame thrower version and a picture of the LVT(A) 1 . It seems that the flame gun was mounted inside the barrel of the 37 or 75mm gun , it looks the same from the outside so as not to attract enemy attention  IRC , one version of the Sherman flame thrower ( POA -CWS 75-H2 ) had the flame tube inside a breech less 75mm gun, it was  also mounted like that  on old  Sherman 105mm gun tanks .
(https://s3.postimg.org/bmk1enl27/IMG_20170802_180808521.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/bmk1enl27/)
Looks like a regular M3 turret on the LVT(A) 1
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Need Help 170803
Post by: Pinky on August 03, 2017, 08:45:30 am
That photo looks like a prototype.  The Chamberlain / Ellis book doesn't say if it was used operationally (the amtank section is quite sparse).  Zaloga specifically says they weren't accepted for deployment, and this led to the improvised LVT-4 version (which used an infantry flamethrower).  I can only find photos of the LVT-4 version in action.

Here's another photo of the LVT(A)-1 version:

(https://s3.postimg.org/jncuuwudr/LVTflamethrower2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/jncuuwudr/)

Here are some close-ups of different test turrets:

(https://s2.postimg.org/xc9a5jl7p/LVTflamethrower.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/xc9a5jl7p/)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Need Help 170803
Post by: ripley on August 03, 2017, 11:16:56 am
I've checked out a few more military vehicle and hobby  sites , and all say there were flame thrower versions used in WW2  , but no  other pictures than the ones we've already posted  . There are/ where  a couple of LVT tech manual reprints  available , but the reviews don't touch on the info we're looking for  ::)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Need Help 170803
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 03, 2017, 11:56:18 am
I've checked out a few more military vehicle and hobby  sites , and all say there were flame thrower versions used in WW2  , but no  other pictures than the ones we've already posted  . There are/ where  a couple of LVT tech manual reprints  available , but the reviews don't touch on the info we're looking for  ::)

Check all available sources and had basically out of resources as well.  Might as well do something later with the LVT-4... ;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Need Help 170803
Post by: ripley on August 03, 2017, 12:18:46 pm
Found a couple of diagrams of a Brit version with Ronsons
(https://s1.postimg.org/hfomgi4sr/8639085396_bfbd9d6d45.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/hfomgi4sr/)

(https://s4.postimg.org/tslyzjd61/LVT4flamethrowertechnicaldrawingstn-600x378.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/tslyzjd61/)
And a drawing and photo of a US version but dated Oct 45
(https://s2.postimg.org/giumpyb2d/E14-7_R2-_MECHANIZED-_FLAME-_THROWER-_INSTALLED-_IN-_LV.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/giumpyb2d/)

(https://s4.postimg.org/i7akm2jm1/E6-mixer-_E8-_Comressor-_DEVELOPMENT-_OF-_FLAME-_THROW.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/i7akm2jm1/)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Need Help 170803
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 06, 2017, 05:50:24 pm
Thanks ripley, will use them as references and see what these brought us to...
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 & LVT(A)4 170714
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 07, 2017, 04:02:21 pm
Any chance that the below the waterline part plugs in to the above the water line part like your track units, so the modeller can swap between the two modes?

There are just too many parts involved to create a swappable between complete and waterline model option.  We are not going to do it because of limited sprue space!
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)4 Need Help 170803
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 07, 2017, 04:09:47 pm
Another LVT variant - the LVT-4... but not the last!

We are still trying to work out the cargo bay floor pattern.
Not enough photo reference to let us decide what to do!

Seems like there are two air vents on single piece metal floor
without any anti-skid pattern...  still investigating!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT-4%20170806-01_zps5qois6km.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT-4%20170806-02_zpsuwfihon4.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT-4%20170806-03_zps3zvxnxde.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT-4%20170806-04_zpsz3eib4tm.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT-4%20170806-05_zpsyfzomsye.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT-4%20170806-06_zpsjevxzbym.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT-4%20170806-07_zpsjvc1jrta.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT-4%20170806-08_zpspiqiwvgx.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT-4%20170806-09_zpsioaiwobh.jpg)

Enjoy!
 ;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 3D Drawing 170807
Post by: Pinky on August 07, 2017, 05:33:10 pm
This should have been the first of your LVT kits...

I have some top-down photos - I'll see if they scan clearly enough to show the floor.
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 3D Drawing 170807
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 07, 2017, 06:01:35 pm
This should have been the first of your LVT kits...

Before we start 3D drawings, we will go through all the variants and shortlisted all the common area before we go into the basic chassis design.  Some area had to be compromised to minimise part counts.  The LVT(A)1 and LVT(A)4 had a headstart because there are no interior and have better reference material on hand.  The LVT-4 is more complicated because most existed vehicles are from the Indochina era, not WW2.


I have some top-down photos - I'll see if they scan clearly enough to show the floor.

Thanks!  Most top-down photos we had are Indochina vehicles, not WW2!
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 3D Drawing 170807
Post by: Pinky on August 07, 2017, 10:53:58 pm
I haven't found an interior photo yet.  I'll keep looking.

The LVT-4 was produced in greater numbers than the other amtracs, but didn't see widespread service till 1945.  The LVT-2 saw more extensive service, and continued to serve alongside LVT-4s.
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 3D Drawing 170807
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 07, 2017, 11:26:13 pm
The LVT-4 was produced in greater numbers than the other amtracs, but didn't see widespread service till 1945.  The LVT-2 saw more extensive service, and continued to serve alongside LVT-4s.

Unfortunately, the LVT-2 had a different dimension (length-wise) than the other LVTs, making it not compatible with our set of common sprue(s).  Do not want to invest the extra moulds and $$$ to make a different variant as a separate product.  :(
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 3D Drawing 170807
Post by: ripley on August 08, 2017, 04:55:56 am
Most photos I've found showing the interior are packed with troops or a vehicle , not that great for checking out the details  ::) It does look like the LVT 4 had fold down bench seats ( sort of like those on the 2 1/2 ton truck ), Down for troops , folded up for cargo . Squadron / Signal have a couple of books in their In Action series  , Concord has one as well , might be an idea to track them down . Both series have great photos and diagrams on their subjects , usually easy to find and best of all , not expensive
(https://s1.postimg.org/ptmgrw997/SS12049-2.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/ptmgrw997/)

(https://s1.postimg.org/h89o4lpgr/000489.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/h89o4lpgr/)

(https://s1.postimg.org/fe18kbagb/cc7032.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fe18kbagb/)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 3D Drawing 170807
Post by: Pinky on August 08, 2017, 09:02:50 am
Unfortunately, the LVT-2 had a different dimension (length-wise) than the other LVTs, making it not compatible with our set of common sprue(s).  Do not want to invest the extra moulds and $$$ to make a different variant as a separate product.  :(

The LVT-2 was the same length as the LVT(A)-1, which was based on it - 26'1".
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 3D Drawing 170807
Post by: Pinky on August 09, 2017, 12:56:09 am
I found this MM article with a lot of notes on building a WW2 era LVT-4:

http://www.militarymodelling.com/news/article/water-buffalo/3629#
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 3D Drawing 170807
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 09, 2017, 03:11:57 am
@Pinky - had read that MM article. Thanks!

@ripley - we already have the books you posted.  The fold-down bench seat (to our best understanding) is from the Indochina era, not WW2... and were field upgrades too!

Will also look at the LVT-2 / LVT(A)2 after we finished the LVT-4 prototype.
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 3D Drawing 170807
Post by: Pinky on August 09, 2017, 10:01:42 am
The folding wooden slat seats do seem to be a French addition.  They also raised the floor.

Here are some photos of the interior of unmodified (WW2-era) LVT-4s:


(https://s2.postimg.org/bgs0xncud/LVT4.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/bgs0xncud/)

(https://s1.postimg.org/att8otz9n/LVT_4.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/att8otz9n/)

(https://s1.postimg.org/8bmrkrje3/LVT4_5.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/8bmrkrje3/)

(https://s1.postimg.org/sdxl9vtkr/LVT4_6.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/sdxl9vtkr/)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 3D Drawing 170807
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on August 09, 2017, 02:33:42 pm
I assume you have had a look here (I have to admit to only just downloading it)
http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_LVTs.pdf (http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_LVTs.pdf)

Not sure if anything is of use.
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 3D Drawing 170807
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on August 09, 2017, 02:45:31 pm
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT-4%20170806-09_zpsioaiwobh.jpg)

In the surviving LVT pdf there is a photograph of an LVT4 and a universal carrier (I think) at the ANZAC Memorial Museum.
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 3D Drawing 170807
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 09, 2017, 02:58:57 pm
I assume you have had a look here (I have to admit to only just downloading it)
http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_LVTs.pdf (http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_LVTs.pdf)

Thanks, UVS... is a great photo reference for us to double check features. Appreciated!
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 3D Drawing 170807
Post by: Pinky on August 13, 2017, 01:48:51 pm
I see the LVT-4 got a big reception on the FB page.  Going to say I told you so!  Including the Polsten cannon would be a good idea. 
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 Cargo Bay Details 170814
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 14, 2017, 12:30:50 pm
Thank you all for contributing to the details of the LVT-4 cargo bay.
After much search for photos and cross-references, we have finally
confirmed our speculation regarding the LVT-4 cargo bay details.
This is our best guess of what it should look like...

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT-4%20170814-1_zps9ax524ty.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 Cargo Bay Details 170814
Post by: Pinky on August 14, 2017, 01:11:42 pm
That does seem to be right.  I couldn't find a photo of the grating on the floor (presumably for draining water), so I can't tell if the pattern is correct.  Nor could I work out if those panels along the side walls are folding seats.  They seem too flimsy.
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 Cargo Bay Details 170814
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 14, 2017, 01:14:41 pm
Nor could I work out if those panels along the side walls are folding seats.  They seem too flimsy.

Already confirmed the folding bench seats are of French origins during the Indochina war.  No worries.
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 Cargo Bay Details 170814
Post by: Pinky on August 14, 2017, 02:07:21 pm
Not the wooden slat seats - they are French.  I mean the flat panels along the interior walls - you have them on your design.  They look as though they might fold down.

Has anyone considered how hard it must have been to stand up in these things in any kind of rough seas?  There are no handholds or anything inside.
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 Cargo Bay Details 170814
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 14, 2017, 04:41:59 pm
Not the wooden slat seats - they are French.  I mean the flat panels along the interior walls - you have them on your design.  They look as though they might fold down.
Has anyone considered how hard it must have been to stand up in these things in any kind of rough seas?  There are no handholds or anything inside.

Don't think they are seats, but flat panels for access to the wheel assembly outside of the LVT.  Here is a close up photo...

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT4_5_zpsyhjibldb.jpg)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 Cargo Bay Details 170814
Post by: Pinky on August 15, 2017, 12:09:50 am
Yes, I posted that photo...

You're right - it doesn't look as though they fold down. 
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 Cargo Bay Details 170814
Post by: ripley on August 15, 2017, 08:21:57 am
And if they did fold down , there are no support legs underneath  or ropes / chains from above  to support them. . Plus these things are supposed to carry a platoon ( 30 plus men ) , having fold seats would really cut the personal payload by about half .Haven't found a good walk around or Official Stowage Sketch that explains what the panels are , but still looking  ;D
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 Cargo Bay Details 170814
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on August 15, 2017, 02:50:02 pm
Looking at the photograph (scale is difficult to judge) the three vertical structures look like they are flattened "loops" and the metal panel is slid through them. There is a dark area at the top that looks like a gap. The long metal plate looks like it is slid through the loops and secured with the three studs visible on the three vertical structures.

If that was the case, it does seem very odd as you could only remove the panel with the rear door down.

It is the wrong shape to protect the sides against the cargo hitting it, the loops project beyond and would be hit.

It could be they are some kind of optional sand shield or trim vane, stored internally to prevent damage.

It is difficult to tell from just the one photograph.
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 Cargo Bay Details 170814
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on August 15, 2017, 02:58:56 pm
Just had a look through the surviving LVT pdf.

Looking at the French armour museum example, that plate is the right height for a back board for the folding seats (you can see it behind the folded up seat).

It does appear to be present in all the cargo interiors visible.

What we need is someone close to one of them to have a look and report back.
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 Cargo Bay Details 170814
Post by: ripley on August 15, 2017, 08:32:22 pm
Plus , the panel seems to be mounted too high to use as a seat , your feet wouldn't touch the floor
(https://s22.postimg.org/yfwixmz6l/untitled.png) (https://postimg.org/image/yfwixmz6l/)
Judging from this picture , the internal  sides are almost 6 feet high and the panel looks to be mounted over 3 feet high on the sides
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT-4 Cargo Bay Details 170814
Post by: johan on August 15, 2017, 10:53:49 pm
They are probable extra armoured plates to protect the crew.
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)-2 3D Drawings 170819
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 19, 2017, 01:50:14 pm
Still working on the LVT-2 based on the LVT(A)-2 drawings below.  What is missing from these drawings
are the rear armoured engine covers, the same one found on the LVT(A)4.  Will add them back later.

Armored version of the LVT-2 following US Army request of an armoured variant of the LVT-2 cargo Amtrac.
Service in the South Pacific soon indicated more protection was needed. This version had the driver's cab
protected by 12.5 mm of armour plate, and the rest of the hull with 6.5mm armour plate. By 1944, shields
were added to protect the front gunners. Surprisingly the extra weight (27,000-lb total weight compared to
the 24,250-lbs weight of the unarmored LVT-2) had no impact on performance and only increased the craft
drawing some 5cm more water when afloat. Capacity 18 troops. 450 units produced.

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA-2%20170819-01_zpsbplzddpy.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA-2%20170819-03_zpst6gtxzkg.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA-2%20170819-02_zpspbz5umzj.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)-2 3D Drawings 170819
Post by: Pinky on August 19, 2017, 02:11:55 pm
Looking good.  You may have them already, but here are some photos of the LVT(A)-2, including a close-up of this pattern of gunshield:

(https://s17.postimg.org/4x1cusiff/IMG_20170819_1405552.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4x1cusiff/)

(https://s17.postimg.org/qkqb58itn/IMG_20170819_1407308.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qkqb58itn/)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)-2 3D Drawings 170819
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on August 19, 2017, 02:42:47 pm
Should that be 6.5mm armour elsewhere?

Looking good.
Title: Re: LVT Project - Updated LVT-2 & LVT(A)-2 3D Drawings 170822
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 22, 2017, 05:36:05 pm
Updated LVT(A)-2 drawings... now with detailed interior, plus the LVT-2!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT-2%20amp%20LVTA-2%20170822-00_zpskpyvx5ui.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT-2%20amp%20LVTA-2%20170822-01_zps2ai4l6yf.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT-2%20amp%20LVTA-2%20170822-02_zps7aesji7b.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT-2%20amp%20LVTA-2%20170822-03_zpscd06xlbb.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT-2%20amp%20LVTA-2%20170822-04_zpsbitbm8qy.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT-2%20amp%20LVTA-2%20170822-05_zps6jonbu2b.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT-2%20amp%20LVTA-2%20170822-06_zpspl6dk8oz.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - Updated LVT-2 & LVT(A)-2 3D Drawings 170822
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on August 22, 2017, 05:43:13 pm
Nice.
Title: Re: LVT Project - Quick Summary 170824
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 24, 2017, 06:42:26 pm
Here is a quick overview of what we have done so far with the LVT project:

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20Side%20View%20170824-1_zps5jekmlah.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - 20mm Polsten Gun 170913
Post by: Rubicon Models on September 13, 2017, 02:43:43 am
The Polsten was a low-cost Polish development of the 20mm Oerlikon gun. The Polsten was designed to be simpler and much cheaper to build than the Oerlikon without reducing effectiveness. It went into service in March 44 alongside the Oerlikon. Both the Oerlikon and the Polsten used similar 60 round drum magazines, however, the Polsten could also use a simpler box magazine with 30 rounds (not shown in the drawing). It remained in service into the 1950s.

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/Polsten%20Gun%20170913-01_zpsx01jyeqk.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - 20mm Polsten Gun 170913
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on September 13, 2017, 03:06:14 am
That is an odd looking mount, how does it work?
Title: Re: LVT Project - Quick Summary 170824
Post by: EarlyWarGamer on September 13, 2017, 11:30:58 am
Fascinated by this series of vehicles some time ago, I conducted a lot of research, and compiled some handy reference notes.  This helped me put makes, models and production into perspective, and gave me a hand when trying to determine which LVTs could make an appearance in which battles (Pacific theater only).  So for those who like such information ... here you go!

LVT Summary

LVT-1
Built: 1,225 (72 1941, 851 1942, 302 1943)
540 USMC, 485 US Army, 200 Allies
First used on Guadalcanal (Aug 1942) but only to ferry supplies
Also used on Bougainville (Nov 1943), Tarawa (Nov 1943) and New Britain (Dec 1943)

LVT-2
Built: 2,962 (1540 1943, 1422 1944)
1355 USMC, 1507 US Army, 100 Allies
First used on Tarawa (Nov 1943)
Also used on New Britain (Dec 1943), Kwajalein (Feb 1944), Eniwetok (Feb 1944), Saipan (Jun 1944),
Guam (Jul 1944), Tinian (Jul 1944), Peleliu (Sep 1944), Iwo Jima (Feb 1945) and Okinawa (Apr 1945)

LVT-3
Built: 2,964 (1 1943, 733 1944, 2230 1945)
All assigned to USMC
First (and only) use on Okinawa (Apr 1945)

LVT-4
Built: 8,351 (11 1943, 4980 1944, 3360 1945)
1765 USMC, 6086 US Army, 500 Allies
First use on Saipan (Jun 1944)
Also used on Guam (Jul 1944), Tinian (Jul 1944), Peleliu (Sep 1944), Philippines (Oct 1944),
Iwo Jima (Feb 1945) and Okinawa (Apr 1945)

LVT (A)-1
Built: 510 (3 1942, 288 1944, 219 1945)
182 USMC, 328 US Army
First used on Kwajalein (Feb 1944).
Also used on Eniwetok (Feb 1944), Saipan (Jun 1944), Guam (Jul 1944), Tinian (Jul 1944),
Peleliu (Sep 1944) and Okinawa (Apr 1945)

LVT (A)-2
Built: 450 (200 1943, 250 1944)
All assigned to US Army
First used on New Britain (Dec 1943).
Also used on Kwajalein (Feb 1944), Iwo Jima (Feb 1945) and Okinawa (Apr 1945)

In addition to the 450 built as LVT (A)-2, over 1,000 of the LVT-2s listed above (those built starting in March 1944) were assembled using the armoured cab specifications, giving them an appearance very similar to the LVT (A)-2 ... but these LVTs were not given the official LVT (A)-2 designation.

LVT (A)-4
Built: 1,890 (1489 1944, 401 1945)
533 USMC, 1307 US Army, 50 Allies
First used on Saipan (Jun 1944).
Also used on Guam (Jul 1944), Tinian (Jul 1944), Peleliu (Sep 1944), Iwo Jima (Feb 1945), and
Okinawa (Apr 1945)

So as far as LVT usage in the Pacific is concerned, the LVT-1 and LVT-2 "own" the Pacific theater for all of 1942 and all of 1943, and a good portion of 1944 and 1945 battles (in 12 listed above).  Some of the 1944 and 1945 battles involved converted LVT-2s which became LVT (A)-2s in all but name.  The LVT-4 comes into service in battles from mid-1944 onward (in 7 listed above).

LVT (A) usage is spread about more evenly. LVT (A)-1 appears in 6 major landings in 1944, and 1 in 1945.  The LVT (A)-2 only appears in 1 late 1943 landing, 1 1944 landing, and 2 in 1945.  Keep in mind some of the LVT-2 battles listed above featured vehicles converted into LVT (A)-2s in all but name.  The LVT (A)-4 saw action in 4 landings in 1944, and 2 in 1945.

Hope this information proves useful!
Title: Re: LVT Project - 20mm Polsten Gun 170913
Post by: tyroflyer on September 13, 2017, 01:14:13 pm
Great info. Thanks for that EWG.
Title: Re: LVT Project - 20mm Polsten Gun 170913
Post by: Pinky on September 13, 2017, 04:27:17 pm
Great summary.  The prevalence of the LVT-2 was something I was trying to impress upon Rubicon, on the basis that it made sense to produce a kit of this in its basic troop-carrying form before doing the amtank versions.  They now seem to have all the bases covered, however. 
Title: Re: LVT Project - 20mm Polsten Gun 171011
Post by: Rubicon Models on October 11, 2017, 08:27:21 pm
Finally had time to get some 3D printing done!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/Polsten%20Gun%20171011-1_zpsvzp2utcn.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - TS1 Sprues 180102
Post by: Rubicon Models on January 02, 2018, 01:51:51 pm
What is more exciting than seeing some new sprues in our first forum post for 2018...

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20Sprues%20171229-00_zpsiris42fl.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20Sprues%20171229-01_zpsxbl0frup.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20Sprues%20171229-02_zpszraaypj6.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20Sprues%20171229-03_zpsq3h2aib8.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20Sprues%20171229-04_zpswjgj7jzr.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20Sprues%20171229-05_zpsezcuib2y.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20Sprues%20171229-06_zpsjbmemfpz.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20Sprues%20171229-07_zpsopjmghjc.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20Sprues%20171229-08_zpspa4bexky.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20Sprues%20171229-09_zpsqvgixdb4.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20Sprues%20171229-10_zpsqanfhnmh.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20Sprues%20171229-11_zpsexjphsak.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20Sprues%20171229-12_zpsxh2szs0d.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20Sprues%20171229-13_zps8oczlxm8.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20Sprues%20171229-14_zpsauhogpr8.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - TS1 Sprues 180102
Post by: elias.tibbs on January 02, 2018, 05:05:55 pm
I sense a USMC army on my horizon.

That looks so good.
Title: Re: LVT Project - TS1 Sprues 180102
Post by: somtec on January 02, 2018, 05:46:02 pm
multi part tracks details on all sides , they look good, nice work.
Title: Re: LVT Project - TS1 Sprues 180102
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on January 02, 2018, 06:07:51 pm
Impressive. Still not sure what I would do with them.

I look forward to seeing them assembled.
Title: Re: LVT Project - TS1 Sprues 180102
Post by: Ballardian on January 03, 2018, 12:11:08 am

 Nice looking kit, like UVS I wasn't sure if I had a use for one,  but if it's possible to build Buffalo II/IV's for my Brits for the Scheldt & Rhine crossing (which I assume, given the Polsten mounts shown earlier) that'll change.
Title: Re: LVT Project - TS1 Sprues 180102
Post by: ripley on January 03, 2018, 08:21:30 am
Wow , lots detail parts there . Now if I'm reading this correctly , Rubicon is releasing 3 different kits of the LVT  , and each kit  would use 3 or 4 of the 6 sprues mentioned  .  ( notice a couple are marked Comman Sprue # 1 & # 2. ) Ok this is good , I thought it might be a 6 sprue kit and was worried about cost , not to mention having to buy a larger spare parts box  ::)
Title: Re: LVT Project - TS1 Assembled 180105
Post by: Rubicon Models on January 05, 2018, 02:34:08 pm
Finally had the time to get all the LVT assemblies done and catalogued for posting...
Three product codes yielding five variants!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-22_zpsatb3fnef.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-23_zpscwsbcx6c.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-24_zpsrsslm9e2.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-25_zps1bv8qyda.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-26_zpsmlcovhbl.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - TS1 Assembled 180105
Post by: Rubicon Models on January 05, 2018, 02:37:37 pm
Here is the optional waterline version of this LVT variants...
Of special note, you can build either a full LVT or a waterline version per kit due to design limitations.

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-45_zpsgg8gat7n.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-46_zps68ikn6fj.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-47_zps9w2lioam.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-48_zpsunplygjm.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-49_zpsek82u1rh.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - TS1 Assembled 180105
Post by: Rubicon Models on January 05, 2018, 02:45:18 pm
This is the third batch of photos... detailing features of each LVT variant.
Beware of large amount of images!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-27_zpsbnmqgni1.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-28_zpsiu3kueys.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-29_zpsmlmhaygy.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-30_zpsrv1tghvd.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-31_zpstd95npha.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-32_zpssqibrzao.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-33_zpsh2xrx0ug.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-34_zps3qtm6zcd.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-35_zpswuipspdo.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-36_zpsriw9jq5h.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-37_zpslp715tow.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-38_zpsndt1eydy.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-39_zps7fp4w4rz.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-40_zpsm4xucjzj.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-41_zps7hfarhoa.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-42_zps4idsotcr.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-43_zpsmh5eydz6.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20TS1%20180104-44_zpspwrtzsr4.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - TS1 Assembled 180105
Post by: elias.tibbs on January 05, 2018, 05:14:37 pm
Bravo
Title: Re: LVT Project - TS1 Assembled 180105
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on January 05, 2018, 05:25:04 pm
They look nice.

There will be the conflict between utility (my forces can use LVT-4s) and shinyness (Amtanks).

Mildly disappointed that you can only build a waterline or a full height version, a lot of spare parts if you choose the former.
Title: Re: LVT Project - TS1 Assembled 180105
Post by: somtec on January 05, 2018, 05:26:43 pm
Outside of my interests, but the work and effort that Rubicon put into their models along with all the options and versions built in, some of the more established model making companies can learn from this.
Well done hope to see more stuff in the future.
Title: Re: LVT Project - TS1 Assembled 180105
Post by: Headonp on January 11, 2018, 10:17:53 pm
Hi,
The kits look very nice, do you have any details on the crew figures which will also be available.

Cheers,

Philip
Title: Re: LVT Project - TS1 Assembled 180105
Post by: Pinky on January 12, 2018, 09:56:23 am
I wasn't planning to build any Pacific War armour, but this range of vehicles looks so good I may end up doing some.  It would be great if there was at least one Japanese tank in the works to compliment these.  WG have the Chi Ha covered, so maybe one of the other more common types?  Or some Japanese artillery?
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT Crew 180207
Post by: Rubicon Models on February 07, 2018, 07:46:20 pm
Start working on the LVT crew. Planning to have 2 to 3 crew sets for the complete LVT range. Still a WIP, but looking into options like with or without a life vest, USMC and US standard uniform, etc. Feedback welcome!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20Crew%20180207-1_zps08kauvth.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20Crew%20180207-2_zps1g9b2mxj.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20Crew%20180207-3_zpscv8knsph.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT Crew 180207
Post by: Jimmy_P on February 09, 2018, 12:39:40 am

These really do look to be shaping up to a great set of kits!

Just have to try and work out how I can use them...  :P did any LVTs get used at all during the Burma campaign?

Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT Crew 180323
Post by: Rubicon Models on March 23, 2018, 06:58:28 pm
A sneak preview of what is to come for the LVT and its crew!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVTA-1%20TS2%20Painted%20180322-5_zpsyolodrqn.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT Crew 180323
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on March 24, 2018, 12:19:29 am
Are you going to do British crew?
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT Crew 180323
Post by: Rubicon Models on March 24, 2018, 02:02:10 am
Are you going to do British crew?

Not sure yet, what army unit will man the LVTs?
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT Crew 180323
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on March 24, 2018, 04:01:16 am
Are you going to do British crew?

Not sure yet, what army unit will man the LVTs?
Probably 79th Armoured Division.
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT Crew 180323
Post by: Pinky on March 26, 2018, 09:57:23 pm
Buffaloes were used by the British during what was mostly cold, wet weather.  So the crews are usually seen in winter gear such as "pixie suits".
Title: Re: LVT Project - US Crew with Stowage 180518
Post by: Rubicon Models on May 18, 2018, 05:51:07 pm
More LVT crew, this time with stowage and full body!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20US%20Crew%20180518-00_zps6wtorwx4.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20US%20Crew%20180518-01_zps7hnjrr3h.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20US%20Crew%20180518-04_zps1jm929az.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20US%20Crew%20180518-02_zpsq6njb2hf.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20US%20Crew%20180518-03_zpsp1s6eyvb.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT Crew 180207
Post by: EarlyWarGamer on May 18, 2018, 10:51:44 pm
Quote
Did any LVTs get used at all during the Burma campaign?

Reconnaissance units of the British Fourteenth Army in Burma operated LVT-1s. They should have fought the Japanese on the Burmese coast at the end of 1943, but this part of the operations plan was cancelled and no LVT-1s were used in combat.

A Royal Marines Amphibious support unit was created in 1945. Its LVT-4 and LVT(A)-4 supported Royal Marines landings in Burma and Malaya
Title: Re: LVT Project - US Crew with Stowage 180529
Post by: Rubicon Models on May 29, 2018, 02:14:50 am
We will be at UKGE (Birmingham) over the coming weekend (Jun 1 to 3), the big migration over the pond starts tomorrow...
Might not be able to update the forum as much as we would like to, here are some of the latest update on the LVT crew!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20US%20Crew%20amp%20Stowage%20180528-01_zpsvokiog8e.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20US%20Crew%20amp%20Stowage%20180528-02_zpsrtkmnwkf.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20US%20Crew%20amp%20Stowage%20180528-03_zpscpfmvpn6.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20US%20Crew%20amp%20Stowage%20180528-04_zpsoshrhtdr.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20US%20Crew%20amp%20Stowage%20180528-05_zpskos9dnpu.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LVT%20US%20Crew%20amp%20Stowage%20180528-06_zpstozxe1ad.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - US Crew with Stowage 180529
Post by: Pinky on May 29, 2018, 09:54:45 am
The resin stowage is excellent.  I really like the texturing, and the draping of the canvas looks very natural.

Are the crew going to be plastic or metal?
Title: Re: LVT Project - US Crew with Stowage 180529
Post by: Rubicon Models on May 29, 2018, 11:24:51 am
The resin stowage is excellent.  I really like the texturing, and the draping of the canvas looks very natural.
Are the crew going to be plastic or metal?

At the moment, any figures not included with plastic kits will be in metal.

We would like to "up" our sculpting to another level through feedback, training and experience.  Metal figures will enable us to come back later to improve existing sculpts and re-release them.  Another reason for the metal figures is that the sculptors don't have to care too much about mould release angles, they can freely express themselves with more natural poses and details.  When the time comes, we will start doing plastic figures in volume!
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT Decal Sheet 180818
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 18, 2018, 07:42:36 pm
Not having time to post much lately because of everyone at the studio is busy finalising all related material for our Q3/18 releases.
Here is the preliminary decal sheet design for the LVT series.  The decal sheet is 1.5 bigger than our normal size sheets because of the size of the decals:

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Waterslide%20Decals/LVT%20Decal%20180709-1_zpsknu5ybuw.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT Decal Sheet 180818
Post by: AmTrac1833 on October 01, 2018, 09:15:17 am
Looking forward to adding some of these to the hobby desk!
Recommendation in regards to decals, I believe "BEAUTIFUL QUEENIE" should be in white and if there are corresponding stripes to that vehicle they should be blue (based on other vehicles in 5TH Landing Vehicle Tractor Battalion).  I've only seen the poor black and white photo of "BEAUTIFUL QUEENIE" which makes discerning color difficult however, there is original color footage of 5TH LVT Bn during Operation Detachment.  5TH LVT Bn was assigned Beaches Blue One and Blue Two, with the LVTs being painted accordingly.  For the assault however, Beaches Blue One and Blue Two were deemed fouled or unusable and thus 5TH LVT Bn landed on alternate beaches.
3RD LVT Bn assigned Beach Green
5TH LVT Bn assigned Beaches Blue One and Blue Two
10TH LVT Bn assigned Beaches Yellow One and Yellow Two
11TH LVT Bn assigned Beaches Red One and Red Two
2ND Armored Amphibian Bn - individual companies were assigned to support LVT Battalions.
Markings, beach or unit were not consistent across units. 
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT Decal Sheet 180818
Post by: Thorhorsemen on November 15, 2018, 10:44:56 am
My local gaming store Tactics in Perth WA just received a shipment of the ne LVT kits and they look great!

I would like to equip my LVTs with the Polsten Cannon, when are these options likely to be released?
Title: Re: LVT Project - British Crew & 20mm Polsten Gun 181121
Post by: Rubicon Models on November 21, 2018, 01:43:28 pm
Finally some British crew for our LVTs, first batch in a relaxing pose... drinking tea (what do you expect?)
Also the 20mm Polsten Gun, available separately.


(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/British%20LVT%20Crew%20181120-01_zpsd9lz4xle.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/British%20LVT%20Crew%20181120-03_zpspdbbxapz.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/British%20LVT%20Crew%20181120-02_zpsy3uskpix.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/British%20LVT%20Crew%20181120-04_zpsivlfzdfh.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/British%20LVT%20Crew%20181120-05_zpstdkrfc1a.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/British%20LVT%20Crew%20181120-06_zps0sbfptgx.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/British%20LVT%20Crew%20181120-07_zpsmwwcfxzj.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/British%20LVT%20Crew%20181120-09_zpsmfjsie2d.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/British%20LVT%20Crew%20181120-10_zpsz0477ndb.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/British%20LVT%20Crew%20181120-08_zpsomtso0mm.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/British%20LVT%20Crew%20181120-11_zpsgtex55xj.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - British Crew & 20mm Polsten Gun 181121
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on November 21, 2018, 05:23:43 pm
New images are not displaying.
I can see the decal sheet, but not the British crew.
Title: Re: LVT Project - British Crew & 20mm Polsten Gun 181121
Post by: Rubicon Models on November 21, 2018, 06:31:11 pm
It is PHOTOBUCKET acting up again... really hate it but can't move all images elsewhere.

Is working now!  STILL DOWN!!

;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - British Crew & 20mm Polsten Gun 181121
Post by: ripley on November 21, 2018, 09:23:27 pm
 ::) No pictures visible to me .....love p bucket
Title: Re: LVT Project - British Crew & 20mm Polsten Gun 181121
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on November 22, 2018, 01:43:57 am
I can see them now.

Nice.

Are the cargo pieces separate?
Title: Re: LVT Project - British Crew & 20mm Polsten Gun 181121
Post by: Jimmy_P on November 22, 2018, 02:36:02 am

Love the British crew, almost tempting to start a British army solely to use them!

Title: Re: LVT Project - British Crew & 20mm Polsten Gun 181121
Post by: ripley on November 22, 2018, 06:28:38 am
Very nice . I assume the figures and stowage are separate pieces ? Could really use those Brits in their winter gear in a diorama with a Firefly . Just have to remember where I saw the picture I have in mind to portray ... ( internet , book or  you tube vid )  ::)
Title: Re: LVT Project - British Crew & 20mm Polsten Gun 181121
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on November 22, 2018, 05:04:24 pm

Love the British crew, almost tempting to start a British army solely to use them!
Go on, you know you want to...
Title: Re: LVT Project - British Crew & 20mm Polsten Gun 181121
Post by: Rubicon Models on November 22, 2018, 05:24:32 pm
Are the cargo pieces separate?

Yes, they are!
Title: Re: LVT Project - British Crew & 20mm Polsten Gun 181121
Post by: Thorhorsemen on February 03, 2019, 11:39:36 am
Any update on when these will be available?

I'm really looking forward to getting some for my Bolt Action Royal Marines.
Title: Re: LVT Project - British Crew & 20mm Polsten Gun 181121
Post by: Rubicon Models on February 03, 2019, 12:21:48 pm
Any update on when these will be available?

Should be Q1/19... really soon!  ;)
Title: Re: LVT Project - British Crew & 20mm Polsten Gun 181121
Post by: Pinky on February 04, 2019, 05:40:38 pm
*Sigh* more pewter...

These certainly look very nice - especially the stowage.  I'd probably get them if they were resin. 

I'm not sure why you're focused so much on diorama builders when the kits are primarily aimed at wargaming, but I guess you have to cover all bases.
Title: Re: LVT Project - British Crew & 20mm Polsten Gun 181121
Post by: Thorhorsemen on February 06, 2019, 04:52:02 am
Any update on when these will be available?

Should be Q1/19... really soon!  ;)

That's good to hear!
Title: Re: LVT Project - British Crew & 20mm Polsten Gun 181121
Post by: Tracks on February 07, 2019, 12:13:45 am
*Sigh* more pewter...

+1
Title: Re: LVT Project - British Crew & 20mm Polsten Gun 181121
Post by: Sparky103 on July 21, 2020, 01:00:16 pm
Are these available anywhere yet?
Title: Re: LVT Project - British Crew & 20mm Polsten Gun 181121
Post by: Rubicon Models on July 21, 2020, 03:32:40 pm
The 20mm Polsten gun is already available on our webstore.  The British crew will be available first half of August.
Title: Re: LVT Project - British Crew & 20mm Polsten Gun 181121
Post by: Orkoverde on July 21, 2020, 10:23:58 pm
"Any chance that the below the waterline part plugs in to the above the water line part like your track units, so the modeller can swap between the two modes?"

I am agree with this proposition. It could be a fantastic option!!!!.
Title: Re: LVT Project - LVT(A)1 & LVT(A)4 170714
Post by: Orkoverde on July 21, 2020, 10:26:40 pm
Any chance that the below the waterline part plugs in to the above the water line part like your track units, so the modeller can swap between the two modes?
I am agree with this proposition. It could be a fantastic option!!!!.