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Re: German AT Guns - A spin-off from our SdKfz 250/251 Project - 160623
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2016, 04:09:42 PM »
Excellent.

I cannot wait to see the crew.

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Re: German AT Guns - A spin-off from our SdKfz 250/251 Project - 160624
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2016, 07:01:50 PM »
To fill the "gap" between our PaK36 and PaK40 projects...












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Re: German AT Guns - A spin-off from our SdKfz 250/251 Project - 160624
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2016, 07:52:54 PM »
Nice.

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Re: German AT Guns - A spin-off from our SdKfz 250/251 Project - 160624
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2016, 02:12:16 PM »
Very cool.  The Pak 38 will also be very useful.  I hope this kit wI'll come with a DAK crew, as the Pak 38 was an important weapon in the desert war.

The ammo for the Pak 97/38 seems to have been supplied in wooden crates, not pressed metal boxes.  As Ripley pointed out before, it was the Pak 38's ammo which came in metal boxes.  So you'd need to supply both types.
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Re: German AT Guns - A spin-off from our SdKfz 250/251 Project - 160624
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2016, 04:28:03 PM »
One question, guys: Do PaK have camo?

Saw some with in museum pictures, how about in the field?
I know some have camo when they are mounted on vehicles...
how about when used standalone??

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Re: German AT Guns - A spin-off from our SdKfz 250/251 Project - 160624
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2016, 05:44:22 PM »
Yes lots of photos of camo applied to PAK....

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Re: German AT Guns - A spin-off from our SdKfz 250/251 Project - 160624
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2016, 11:06:35 PM »
I hope that you will include the more solid pressed steel wheel on your upcoming Pak 38 /Pak 97/38 anti tank gun kit.From pictures, it seems to be more common than the open spoked wheel on the example that you have

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Re: German AT Guns - A spin-off from our SdKfz 250/251 Project - 160624
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2016, 11:15:19 PM »
Anti-tank guns were painted the same colours as vehicles.  Up to the switchover to dark yellow in early 1943, all of these guns would have been painted dark grey (the Pak 36 would have had a red-brown camo pattern in the intial year or so of the war).  They were often whitewashed in winter - usually very roughly.  Otherwise, they were camouflaged with foliage or even mud (common in the early states of the desert war).  Guns in service with the DAK were eventually painted brown yellow, although not always uniformly (a rough spray over the dark grey wasn't unusual).

With the change to dark yellow, all equipment was repainted, but it took time.  Crews often applied camo patterns to Pak guns - after all, camouflage was probably even more vital for an anti-tank gun than it was for a vehicle.  As a rule, they tended to be quite basic schemes (often just a quick sprayed pattern of either green or red-brown), but you do see some more elaborate 3-colour schemes.  Guns serving in Panzer divisions seem to have been more likely to be properly camouflaged than guns serving in infantry divisions.  If the gun was towed by a half-track then it tended to be camouflaged the same way.

I found this (genuine) colour photo of some German heavy artillery captured in Tunisia.  It gives an idea of the kind of slapdash application of camo that was pretty common on towed guns (and the actual colours).


Here is a photo of a Pak 38 with a more elegantly applied camo pattern.


And here is a Pak 40 with another fairly typical camo pattern.

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Re: German AT Guns - A spin-off from our SdKfz 250/251 Project - 160624
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2016, 11:17:32 PM »
I hope that you will include the more solid pressed steel wheel on your upcoming Pak 38 /Pak 97/38 anti tank gun kit.From pictures, it seems to be more common than the open spoked wheel on the example that you have

Agreed.  Knowing Rubicon, they'll provide both!

Also, I just realised that the Pak 38 had an additional wheel that was attached to the trails to make it easier to move the gun.
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Re: German AT Guns - A spin-off from our SdKfz 250/251 Project - 160624
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2016, 11:57:40 AM »
Also, I just realised that the Pak 38 had an additional wheel that was attached to the trails to make it easier to move the gun.

Yes, there is an extra wheel; but we are omitting it intentionally due to technical issues; knowing not too many will model it as being towed.

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Re: German AT Guns - A spin-off from our SdKfz 250/251 Project - 160624
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2016, 04:30:42 AM »
Actually the third wheel was mounted on the spade end of the trail and used by crews to move the gun manually . It was dismounted and bolted to the trail when the gun was towed by a vehicle

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Re: German AT Guns - A spin-off from our SdKfz 250/251 Project - 160630
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2016, 09:04:02 PM »
With the PaK 97/38 done, here is the remaining PaK 38 3D drawings...










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Re: German AT Guns - A spin-off from our SdKfz 250/251 Project - 160630
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2016, 10:40:08 PM »
Looking good

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Re: German AT Guns - PaK 36 Crew Sculpts 160730
« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2016, 08:03:42 PM »
Here is the preliminary test sculpts for the PaK 36!

Decided to do 5 crew instead of just 3 to suit different needs
- gaming or modelling or both!







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Re: German AT Guns - PaK 36 Crew Sculpts 160730
« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2016, 02:55:33 AM »
You people have a real talent in making great models, and making me spend more money. I`m certain I said I would just go the occasional  axis item. Mainly buying just U.S.A. joke the first I brought was your Tiger. These are so brilliant for models or wargame.
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