Rubicon Models
Rubicon Models => Work In Progress => Topic started by: Rubicon Models on September 13, 2016, 04:02:12 pm
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This is official... Rubicon Models is working on a plastic British 15cwt truck based on the Canadian Military Pattern (CMP) truck. Made in large numbers in Canada during WW2 to British Army specifications for use in the armies of the British Commonwealth allies. Standard designs were drawn up just before the beginning of the war.
CMP trucks were also sent to the Soviet Union following the Nazi invasion. During the war, CMP trucks saw service around the world in the North African Campaign, the Allied invasion of Sicily, the Italian Campaign, the Soviet Front, the Burma Campaign, the Battle of the Philippines (1941–42), the liberation of Northwest Europe, and the Western Allied invasion of Germany. CMP trucks also saw service in post-war conflicts in Indonesia, French Indochina, and the Portuguese colonies in Africa.
Our aim is to create a basic 2 sprue plastic kit which will serve as a base for conversion and kitbashing. We have no release date for this kit as it is still under the 3D drawing phase. We will update her progress on FB as often as possible.
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15CWT%20Truck8Sep2016_zpsydfinqse.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Great!
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excellent, i see lots of conversion potential there.
always liked the cmp range
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Great to see this confirmed, and a great choice for the first British softskin.
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Even though still in the design phase, our initial thoughts is to give the truck a "basic" rear trunk with either some canvas support bars and/or a full canvas top.
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main problem with the CMP is the great number of cabins used ...
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main problem with the CMP is the great number of cabins used ...
We will only do one of the most common ones as shown on the diagram.
With the basic cab framework, conversion to other cabin types (with minor looks) can be done easily by any modellers with little efforts.
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looks like more scope for me to do other vesions then, good descision rubicon
i could do one of these for starters:-
(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/sandsmodels/ww2%2020mm/SampS%20CMP%20WRECKER%20NWE%205.jpg) (http://s513.photobucket.com/user/sandsmodels/media/ww2%2020mm/SampS%20CMP%20WRECKER%20NWE%205.jpg.html)
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Excellent. Our resident resin wrangler might have some ideas on how best to make it easy to integrate after market cabs, bodies etc with the kit.
You might want to remove the Chevrolet logo, not only is there an IP issue with it, in the UK Chevrolet are rebranded ex-Daewoo cars.
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looks like more scope for me to do other vesions then, good descision rubicon
i could do one of these for starters:-
(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/sandsmodels/ww2%2020mm/SampS%20CMP%20WRECKER%20NWE%205.jpg) (http://s513.photobucket.com/user/sandsmodels/media/ww2%2020mm/SampS%20CMP%20WRECKER%20NWE%205.jpg.html)
You could do the same with the new deuce kits too
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i could but the gmc never had this recovery gear, only postwar were some converted
need the diamond t 4 ton for that, get rubicon to make that as well!
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Come on Guys .....Diamond T and Rodgers trailer tank transporter ....Please
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YYYeSS Please.
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This is great news 8)
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I would say it's 95% finished... awaiting data check & drawing approval before 3D prototyping!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20160924-1_zps5of2oxzk.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20160924-3_zps16linspe.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20160924-2_zpsh0jj5a8p.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20160924-4_zpsezwrpgsk.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20160924-5_zps9adcrf0b.jpg)
Enjoy!
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I'll be having loads of those
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Excellent, looking forward to this.
Will you offer Ford And Chevrolet grills?
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These are looking really great !
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Will you offer Ford And Chevrolet grills?
Not sure for the moment. Probably will just offer the Chevy version.
We are considering doing a multi-slide mould cab body...
Further comments?
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Just toying with this idea brought up by UVS... but this will affect our multi-slide mould cab design!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20160924-6_zpsf5xv7pnl.jpg)
Comments?
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Nothing wrong with more options. But if you can't use the names 'Ford', 'Chevy' etc on the kit, how would you explain these optional designs?
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Nothing wrong with more options. But if you can't use the names 'Ford', 'Chevy' etc on the kit, how would you explain these optional designs?
The outline of the logo will spell it all... but with this two cab option, we'll need to change our kit design a little, particularly the canvas top to make this work. Also, you will have an extra cab as bits/parts too!
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great when can we expect it?
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great when can we expect it?
The usual official answer - after we did 3d Prototyping, then amendments, sprue layout, QC approval, mould making... probably Q2/17?
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Nothing wrong with more options. But if you can't use the names 'Ford', 'Chevy' etc on the kit, how would you explain these optional designs?
Not visible in the picture (but as the bottom of the grille is visibly different I would guess they have designed the two format grilles), so they could just describe the grille mesh shape: square or diamond.
I did not realise the difference in the lights. Excellent.
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Not visible in the picture (but as the bottom of the grille is visibly different I would guess they have designed the two format grilles), so they could just describe the grille mesh shape: square or diamond.
I did not realise the difference in the lights. Excellent.
The grilles are different, the Chevy one is diamond shaped, whereas the Ford one is a square mesh.
Actually there are several configurations of the headlights, so we wanted something which is more common.
Also, the windows can be very different too!
The way we had designed the cabs, you can actually "saw" off the rooftop, window frames, and portion of the cab back panel to make the cab an open-top vehicle too!
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It's good to see you getting more invested in this project. I can't wait to see this kit.
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Our first British truck is getting a 3D print treatment... Love this tiny prototype!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Prototype%20161020-01_zpsoaxcbfdv.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Prototype%20161020-02_zpsbc5y5kyr.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Prototype%20161020-04_zpskjvsv8cb.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Prototype%20161020-03_zpskd8m0mxt.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Prototype%20161020-05_zps3k5n1tc1.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Prototype%20161020-06_zpsgybckinh.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Prototype%20161020-07_zpsznemwrsw.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Fantastic - an instant winner! So much detail in such a small vehicle. I can't wait for this one!
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Excellent.
What a wonderful vehicle.
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I agree with all, these are so fine detailed, you have another pure joy of a model to release, and our armies will grow.
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Can we have a close up view of the two radiator grilles. The pictures above do not show the details but only hint at the work you have put into it.
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lovely
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Can't wait for theses to be released, I need at leat 2 of them ;D
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This is some test-printed parts from our new 3D printer.
Look at the details...
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Wheel%20amp%20Axle%20161208-1_zpsya9cs55r.jpg)
Enjoy!
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very nice indeed
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Work had started on the truck driver for our British 15cwt truck.
Depending on sprue space, we are considering to include two
possible drivers for the truck - in North African & European tunic
for different war theatres.
Any comments?
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20Driver%20Sculpt%20161212-1_zpsgmjnizrf.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Very good!
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Excellent.
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Yes, this all looks great. The chap in shorts can also be for the Pacific theatre - I assume these trucks were sent to Burma.
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While waiting for the courier to pickup our Q4/16 new releases for shipping,
we have painted up the British 15cwt truck prototype. We also made a small
conversion by removing the cab top to expose the cab interior... making it
more suitable for use with our North Africa British force!
An A15 Crusader is there for size comparison... a big truck indeed!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Prototype%20Painted%20161216-1_zpsh5jyituh.jpg)
Enjoy!
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seems to be really big!
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That's looking pretty enticing ...... :)
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That looks great, really looking forward to this kit.
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We pay special attention to make sure our hand weapons scaled
nicely with our vehicles and figures... yet not over-scaled!
This Bren gun is an good example - the cyan one is exactly 1/56,
the blue one is 1/53, and the green one is a mix of 1/56 (body)
and 1/53 (stock and barrel) to get a good balance of scale and
practicality... we are insistent on details and quality!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/Bren%20Gun%20161223-1_zpss8ggbtif.jpg)
Enjoy!
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An A15 Crusader is there for size comparison... a big truck indeed!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Prototype%20Painted%20161216-1_zpsh5jyituh.jpg)
Excellent.
The scaling information on the Bren is useful.
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It's brilliant! I can't wait for this kit :-)
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More work is done trying to complete this project on time!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170215-01_zpsplcipdwf.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170215-02_zps6vkivuou.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170215-04_zps9sqjdunf.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170215-03_zpsmtyguyxs.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Looking forward to this.
Probably not going to be available for Salute 2017 I guess.
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The tarps look great , well done
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Looks very good.
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More work is done trying to complete this project on time!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170215-01_zpsplcipdwf.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170215-02_zps6vkivuou.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170215-04_zps9sqjdunf.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170215-03_zpsmtyguyxs.jpg)
Enjoy!
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When is 'on time'? Is a first quarter release possible??
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Everything about this kit is looking great. Good work on the tarpaulin - very convincing!
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I know that we may not see this for a while, but have to say I'm really looking forward to it, it looks great & the tarps on the load bed are fantastic.
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Here are the painted figure samples for the British 15cwt truck.
A driver with two crew options - long and roll up sleeves; suitable
for both North African or European theatre. Note the difference in
facial expression for these figures!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Crew%20170222-01_zpsdh8dsxc8.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Crew%20170222-02_zps8uan1mno.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Crew%20170222-03_zpsotfmphob.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Crew%20170222-04_zpsli2dtgah.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Crew%20170222-05_zpsicp8p0ed.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Crew%20170222-06_zpstgvpdey2.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Crew%20170222-07_zpsgphlj88u.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Squinting into the sun, excellent.
Will it make it by Salute?
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Squinting into the sun, excellent.
Will it make it by Salute?
Don't think so! The truck & crew is still under prototyping. Had been making a lot of minor changes before we can send the project to mould making.
Would say end of year release!
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Look very good . Any chance of you packaging various vehicle crew figure as separate sets for those of us who would like to recrew the vehicles we already have ? These are much better than the metal figures you get in other companies kits ::)
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Trying to wrap up this project for sprue layout and mould making.
Still some minor technical issues needed to be resolved, looking
good for now!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170223-01_zps8ujtbyqd.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170223-02_zpsbxygpdun.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170223-03_zpseggnzgmk.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170223-04_zpsffs7e6ho.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170223-05_zps5hgdgym8.jpg)
Enjoy!
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It looks good to me. The only query I have (and I don't have many references on this vehicle) is whether the front wheel hubs are correct. Most of the photos on the net show a protruding centre Like the back wheels, only shallower), rather than the gentle 'dish' shape on this.
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Looks very good.
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Pinky , would the model ( dish hubs ) be a rear wheel drive and the protruding hubs , 4 wheel drive ? I'm not really a car nut but that's what 4 wheel drive pick ups hub look like around here . And there's tons of them here in Alberta
(https://s23.postimg.org/gige1c2zr/a0f5dae6e7624fd6721b10177c386169.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gige1c2zr/)
CMP Ford 4 wheel drive
(https://s4.postimg.org/okzopd1qx/Ford_Truck.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/okzopd1qx/)
CMP Ford 2 wheel drive . I assume the Chev versions would look just about the same , except for the Chev logo on the grill
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I don't knowing that's the explanation, Ripley, but I couldn't find any photos of vehicles with the same front hubs as the kit. Your front wheel drive version looks different.
Here's what seems to be the most common hub type:
(https://s28.postimg.org/id4rtj12x/IMG_0069.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/id4rtj12x/)
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That's about the only difference I can think of . Maybe different suppliers were involved in making the parts for the trucks . I know there are a few collectors sites out there, in Canada and the UK . Very popular vehicle in western Canada , every other farm yard seems to have a wreck of one of the body styles rusting away
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We are finally one step closer to see the CMP getting released... First plastic sprues arrived from our mould maker today!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20TS1%20170502-01_zpsvmg5f39m.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20TS1%20170502-02_zpsjevdjelm.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20TS1%20170502-03_zpswou5s0pn.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20TS1%20170502-04_zpsdfiz7wi2.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20TS1%20170502-05_zpsxki84pf4.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20TS1%20170502-06_zpsswa2431c.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20TS1%20170502-07_zpshsd6atnw.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20TS1%20170502-08_zpsuelff3w9.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20TS1%20170502-09_zpsqwzdpsiw.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20TS1%20170502-10_zpsg4zhepuq.jpg)
Enjoy!
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That looks good.
Wikipedia says late 1941 onward for the no. 13 can.
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This seems to have progressed very quickly. It all looks good to me - the detail on the cab and canopy are especially fine.
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Excellent. I need this kit :)
Are we still looking at around October?
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WOW.
That looks superb.
At least 400% better than the crappy resin one i have now.
Tim
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Looks fantastic, the canvas tilt is beautifully done, when can I have one?
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A quick update on the test assembled and painted CMP truck... from our TS1 plastic sprue!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/Truck%20Convoy%20170530-2_zpseimcoamp.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Nice, when can we get them?
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Very nice! Q3?
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Realise I'm pretty late to this party as you've already got sprues, but can I make a cheeky request for an expansion kit? Passengers!
Right now nobody is making British passengers for trucks and half tracks in 28mm except Victory Force in the US, and postage makes those prohibitively expensive outside the wilds of North America. Warlord seem to be starting to include passengers with their plastic trucks, but so far only Germans.
I'd definitely buy a set of British passengers in battle dress, even if I wasn't buying this kit (although I probably will!)
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Right now nobody is making British passengers for trucks and half tracks in 28mm except Victory Force in the US, and postage makes those prohibitively expensive outside the wilds of North America. Warlord seem to be starting to include passengers with their plastic trucks, but so far only Germans.
Yes, British seated infantrymen are planned. Just waiting for their turn.
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Lovely, the waiting is killing me though :'( & fantastic to hear passengers are also inbound.
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Very nice! Q3?
Are you still waiting on final bits and pieces for this?
After the M4A2?
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It must be coming - they've done the box art for it.
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So getting a couple of these... 8)
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Preliminary design of the CMP 15cwt truck decal sheet... Comments welcome!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Waterslide%20Decals/British%2015cwt%20Truck%20Decal%20170820-1s_zpseytvxcd9.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Were the vehicle identification / serial numbers always in white? On a pale sand coloured vehicle for the Western Desert, they aren't going to stand out terribly well. Perhaps a mix of numbers in black as well as white, like the decal sheet for the Crusader? May or may not be historically accurate, but would certainly look more effective on light coloured vehicles :)
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It must be coming - they've done the box art for it.
In my defence, they posted the art after my post ^___^
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Looking at the decal set, what else can it be used for (the sheet is titled British Trucks)?
More hygienic than using animal entrails to divine the future.
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Were the vehicle identification / serial numbers always in white? On a pale sand coloured vehicle for the Western Desert, they aren't going to stand out terribly well. Perhaps a mix of numbers in black as well as white, like the decal sheet for the Crusader? May or may not be historically accurate, but would certainly look more effective on light coloured vehicles :)
They were usually black on desert vehicles, or sometimes white on a black rectangle.
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They were usually black on desert vehicles, or sometimes white on a black rectangle.
From photographs that we came across, they were basically white letterings on trucks even for desert vehicles. This is definitely true for restored trucks in colour photos.
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Thanks for the response.
I'm by no means an expert compared to many of your contributors here, but I'm not sure I'd take restored vehicles as too much of a reliable reference point. I've seen a lot of quite garishly painted restored vehicles in photos from AFV museums, sometimes in what seem to be quite vivid and fanciful paint schemes... They often seem to be painted in thick layers of high gloss paint too, which I'm fairly sure wasn't the case with the original vehicles :)
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Sorry to now come across like a dog with a bone, but two minutes on Google image search reveals this...
I don't know if this is in North Africa - looks rather like it might be. But it's certainly a very light coloured CMP truck with the ID numbers in black, or maybe dark grey...
I think you should consider turning a few of those white serial number decals black ;D
(http://knowledgeglue.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Ford-Truck.jpg)
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My source was 'The New Breed'. And any number of photos. It's true that the numbers were sometimes white - when it comes to the British Army there are no 'black and white' answers. But restored vehicles aren't a good guide.
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The final version of the British 15cwt CPM Truck decal sheet:
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Waterslide%20Decals/British%2015cwt%20Truck%20Decal%20170820-1F_zpskfj1fgyz.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Looks great .
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I agree.
Now someone needs to explain the War Department serial numbers to me ^___^
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Info gleaned from Canadiansoldier.com under Vehicles ( markings general ) - 1st off the 2 letter combo C ? is used only on Canadian vehicles : CA - Ambulance . CC - Motorbike . CF - Armored Car / Scout Car . CH - Artillery Tractors . CL - Lorry ( truck for all you Yanks ;D ) 30 cwt or larger . CM - Staff Car / Jeep . CS - Self Propelled Gun . CT - Universal Carrier / Tank . CX - Trailers . CZ - Lorry under 15 cwt . So most if not all the decals on the sheet are for Canadian vehicles , but easy enough to cut off the 1st letter , and your good . I assume the NZ code would be for Kiwi vehicles , no idea what the Aussies had as a letter prefix or if they even were allowed to drive ::)
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Thanks, so Z prefix for basic British trucks.
Interesting images if you Google for them, a number with autocannon on the load bed (Breda and German).
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In British service, the Z prefix was for lorries under 15cwt. L was for lorries over 15cwt (so theoretically there shouldn't be any for this vehicle). H was for wheeled artillery tractors (I don't think these vehicles were used as gun tractors). So as Ripley said most of these war department numbers are for Canadian vehicles. I have no idea if that was Rubicon's intention.
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I wonder if CMP trucks were given WD numbers in Canada , ( the number minus the letter prefix would be assigned to vehicle for its lifespan ) so they would have Canadian lettering when shipped overseas . You would assume the end user UK units would change the Letters when received , but maybe they better things to do , like fight a war ? I 've seen pictures of some Canadian units with tanks that had just a T number , not CT , maybe replacements rushed into combat , we'll paint them later sort of thing ? It will easy to cut off the C to make them Brit trucks
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Looks great 8)
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@ ripley. Too many aussies were flying Lancasters on the way to Germany to worry about driving :D.
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That makes sense , less chance of bumping into something up at 10,000 feet ;D . Anyone have an idea of what the P stands for on this amphibious jeep ?
(https://s2.postimg.org/fus3rmr8l/Hmmm_P.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fus3rmr8l/)
Its a reconnaissance regiment [41] of the 2nd or 3rd Canadian Infantry Division , so there should be a C ....right ? I love it when you find a chart that explains all the vehicle codes and stuff and you figure you got it sorted , and then you find something like this :o
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As this photo is post war could the convention have changed?
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It seems I missed a few letters :-[ the British War Department also had D ( Dragons artillery tow ) , E ( Engineer vehicles ) , P ( Amphibious - Duwks & SEEPs ) , R ( the terrible idea Roto Trailer ) and V ( vans ) . E,P,& V added late war.
(https://s2.postimg.org/4ld61wqcl/vicker10.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4ld61wqcl/)
Light Dragon artillery tractor BEF
(https://s2.postimg.org/nf3kcndyd/scan0015.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/nf3kcndyd/)
Roto Trailer - filled with ammo and fuel ( in wheels ! ) towed by Valentine / Churchill tanks - seen in North Africa
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Its a reconnaissance regiment [41] of the 2nd or 3rd Canadian Infantry Division , so there should be a C ....right ? I love it when you find a chart that explains all the vehicle codes and stuff and you figure you got it sorted , and then you find something like this :o
Right. I found a photo of a 15cwt truck in the desert with an L prefix number. Maybe it was overloaded...
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Right. I found a photo of a 15cwt truck in the desert with an L prefix number. Maybe it was overloaded...
Does anyone know what a 30cwt CMP looks like?
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Here are the prefix codes for vehicle numbers, if canadian it was preceded with an extra C. As you can see P means amphibious.
A Ambulance
C Motorcycle
D Dragons (tracked towing vehicles)
E Engineer vehicles (bulldozers)
F Armoured scout car or armoured car
H Tractor (artillery tractor)
L Lorry (30cwt or heavier)
M Car (including Jeep)
P Amphibious
R Rota trailer
S Self propelled artillery
T Tracked vehicles (tank and universal carriers)
V Van
X Trailers
Z Truck (15cwt and smaller), white scout car, halftrac
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I did wonder if these were used by the LRDG, not definitive, but Wikipedia says that Ford 15cwt CAMP were used as command vehicles (Chevrolet 30cwt for line vehicles). Not sure on the cab type though.
I was just glancing through the Bolt Action LRDG list.
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Back on the LRDG list, and with reference to the discussion on the German flak quad cannon on the Opel, could you mount the PAK 36 on the load bed as an LRDG AT truck?
I know that they used 30cwt Chevys but no one does them in plastic (hint hint).