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Rubicon Models => Work In Progress => Topic started by: Rubicon Models on September 13, 2016, 04:02:12 pm

Title: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
Post by: Rubicon Models on September 13, 2016, 04:02:12 pm
This is official... Rubicon Models is working on a plastic British 15cwt truck based on the Canadian Military Pattern (CMP) truck. Made in large numbers in Canada during WW2 to British Army specifications for use in the armies of the British Commonwealth allies. Standard designs were drawn up just before the beginning of the war.

CMP trucks were also sent to the Soviet Union following the Nazi invasion. During the war, CMP trucks saw service around the world in the North African Campaign, the Allied invasion of Sicily, the Italian Campaign, the Soviet Front, the Burma Campaign, the Battle of the Philippines (1941–42), the liberation of Northwest Europe, and the Western Allied invasion of Germany. CMP trucks also saw service in post-war conflicts in Indonesia, French Indochina, and the Portuguese colonies in Africa.

Our aim is to create a basic 2 sprue plastic kit which will serve as a base for conversion and kitbashing. We have no release date for this kit as it is still under the 3D drawing phase. We will update her progress on FB as often as possible.

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15CWT%20Truck8Sep2016_zpsydfinqse.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - It's official!!
Post by: Yaquir on September 13, 2016, 04:07:19 pm
Great!
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - It's official!!
Post by: sandsmodels on September 13, 2016, 04:32:02 pm
excellent, i see lots of conversion potential there.
always liked the cmp range
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - It's official!!
Post by: Pinky on September 13, 2016, 04:44:56 pm
Great to see this confirmed, and a great choice for the first British softskin.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - It's official!!
Post by: Rubicon Models on September 13, 2016, 04:46:52 pm
Even though still in the design phase, our initial thoughts is to give the truck a "basic" rear trunk with either some canvas support bars and/or a full canvas top.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - It's official!!
Post by: lou passejaire on September 13, 2016, 05:21:07 pm
main problem with the CMP is the great number of cabins used ...
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - It's official!!
Post by: Rubicon Models on September 13, 2016, 05:44:30 pm
main problem with the CMP is the great number of cabins used ...

We will only do one of the most common ones as shown on the diagram.

With the basic cab framework, conversion to other cabin types (with minor looks) can be done easily by any modellers with little efforts.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - It's official!!
Post by: sandsmodels on September 13, 2016, 06:48:13 pm
looks like more scope for me to do other vesions then, good descision rubicon
i could do one of these for starters:-
(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/sandsmodels/ww2%2020mm/SampS%20CMP%20WRECKER%20NWE%205.jpg) (http://s513.photobucket.com/user/sandsmodels/media/ww2%2020mm/SampS%20CMP%20WRECKER%20NWE%205.jpg.html)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - It's official!!
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on September 14, 2016, 02:17:32 am
Excellent. Our resident resin wrangler might have some ideas on how best to make it easy to integrate after market cabs, bodies etc with the kit.

You might want to remove the Chevrolet logo, not only is there an IP issue with it, in the UK Chevrolet are rebranded ex-Daewoo cars.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - It's official!!
Post by: elias.tibbs on September 14, 2016, 08:05:59 pm
looks like more scope for me to do other vesions then, good descision rubicon
i could do one of these for starters:-
(http://i513.photobucket.com/albums/t339/sandsmodels/ww2%2020mm/SampS%20CMP%20WRECKER%20NWE%205.jpg) (http://s513.photobucket.com/user/sandsmodels/media/ww2%2020mm/SampS%20CMP%20WRECKER%20NWE%205.jpg.html)

You could do the same with the new deuce kits too
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - It's official!!
Post by: sandsmodels on September 14, 2016, 11:04:16 pm
i could but the gmc never had this recovery gear, only postwar were some converted
need the diamond t 4 ton for that, get rubicon to make that as well!
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - It's official!!
Post by: stevepalffy on September 20, 2016, 08:05:49 pm
Come on Guys .....Diamond T and Rodgers trailer tank transporter ....Please
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - It's official!!
Post by: airborne on September 20, 2016, 10:36:59 pm
YYYeSS Please.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - It's official!!
Post by: Aircav on September 22, 2016, 02:01:48 am
This is great news  8)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Drawing 160924
Post by: Rubicon Models on September 24, 2016, 01:35:31 pm
I would say it's 95% finished... awaiting data check & drawing approval before 3D prototyping!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20160924-1_zps5of2oxzk.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20160924-3_zps16linspe.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20160924-2_zpsh0jj5a8p.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20160924-4_zpsezwrpgsk.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20160924-5_zps9adcrf0b.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Drawing 160924
Post by: johan on September 24, 2016, 02:57:00 pm
I'll be having loads of those
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Drawing 160924
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on September 24, 2016, 03:46:35 pm
Excellent, looking forward to this.

Will you offer Ford And Chevrolet grills?
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Drawing 160924
Post by: stevepalffy on September 24, 2016, 03:51:24 pm
These are looking really great !
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Drawing 160924
Post by: Rubicon Models on September 24, 2016, 03:52:13 pm
Will you offer Ford And Chevrolet grills?

Not sure for the moment.  Probably will just offer the Chevy version.
We are considering doing a multi-slide mould cab body...

Further comments?
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Drawing 160927
Post by: Rubicon Models on September 27, 2016, 11:13:14 pm
Just toying with this idea brought up by UVS... but this will affect our multi-slide mould cab design!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20160924-6_zpsf5xv7pnl.jpg)

Comments?
::)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Drawing 160927
Post by: Pinky on September 27, 2016, 11:40:30 pm
Nothing wrong with more options.   But if you can't use the names 'Ford', 'Chevy' etc on the kit, how would you explain these optional designs?
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Drawing 160927
Post by: Rubicon Models on September 27, 2016, 11:55:13 pm
Nothing wrong with more options.   But if you can't use the names 'Ford', 'Chevy' etc on the kit, how would you explain these optional designs?

The outline of the logo will spell it all... but with this two cab option, we'll need to change our kit design a little, particularly the canvas top to make this work.  Also, you will have an extra cab as bits/parts too!
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Drawing 160927
Post by: sandsmodels on September 28, 2016, 12:13:38 am
great when can we expect it?
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Drawing 160927
Post by: Rubicon Models on September 28, 2016, 12:18:19 am
great when can we expect it?

The usual official answer - after we did 3d Prototyping, then amendments, sprue layout, QC approval, mould making... probably Q2/17?
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Drawing 160927
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on September 28, 2016, 02:00:44 am
Nothing wrong with more options.   But if you can't use the names 'Ford', 'Chevy' etc on the kit, how would you explain these optional designs?

Not visible in the picture (but as the bottom of the grille is visibly different I would guess they have designed the two format grilles), so they could just describe the grille mesh shape: square or diamond.

I did not realise the difference in the lights. Excellent.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Drawing 160927
Post by: Rubicon Models on September 28, 2016, 02:17:21 am
Not visible in the picture (but as the bottom of the grille is visibly different I would guess they have designed the two format grilles), so they could just describe the grille mesh shape: square or diamond.
I did not realise the difference in the lights. Excellent.

The grilles are different, the Chevy one is diamond shaped, whereas the Ford one is a square mesh.
Actually there are several configurations of the headlights, so we wanted something which is more common.
Also, the windows can be very different too!

The way we had designed the cabs, you can actually "saw" off the rooftop, window frames, and portion of the cab back panel to make the cab an open-top vehicle too!
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Drawing 160927
Post by: Pinky on September 28, 2016, 11:19:03 am
It's good to see you getting more invested in this project.  I can't wait to see this kit.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Prototype 161021
Post by: Rubicon Models on October 21, 2016, 12:50:53 am
Our first British truck is getting a 3D print treatment... Love this tiny prototype!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Prototype%20161020-01_zpsoaxcbfdv.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Prototype%20161020-02_zpsbc5y5kyr.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Prototype%20161020-04_zpskjvsv8cb.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Prototype%20161020-03_zpskd8m0mxt.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Prototype%20161020-05_zps3k5n1tc1.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Prototype%20161020-06_zpsgybckinh.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Prototype%20161020-07_zpsznemwrsw.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Prototype 161021
Post by: Pinky on October 21, 2016, 12:57:35 am
Fantastic - an instant winner!  So much detail in such a small vehicle.  I can't wait for this one!
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Prototype 161021
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on October 21, 2016, 01:52:05 am
Excellent.

What a wonderful vehicle.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Prototype 161021
Post by: airborne on October 21, 2016, 03:20:14 am
I agree with all, these are so fine detailed, you have another pure joy of a model to release, and our armies will grow.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Prototype 161021
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on October 21, 2016, 03:09:51 pm
Can we have a close up view of the two radiator grilles. The pictures above do not show the details but only hint at the work you have put into it.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Prototype 161021
Post by: sandsmodels on October 21, 2016, 08:01:28 pm
lovely
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Prototype 161021
Post by: Aircav on October 26, 2016, 05:35:42 am
Can't wait for theses to be released, I need at leat 2 of them  ;D
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Parts 161208
Post by: Rubicon Models on December 08, 2016, 05:29:44 pm
This is some test-printed parts from our new 3D printer.
Look at the details...

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Wheel%20amp%20Axle%20161208-1_zpsya9cs55r.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Parts 161208
Post by: sandsmodels on December 09, 2016, 12:16:27 am
very nice indeed
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Sculpt 161213
Post by: Rubicon Models on December 13, 2016, 03:25:41 pm
Work had started on the truck driver for our British 15cwt truck.
Depending on sprue space, we are considering to include two
possible drivers for the truck - in North African & European tunic
for different war theatres.

Any comments?

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20Driver%20Sculpt%20161212-1_zpsgmjnizrf.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Sculpt 161213
Post by: Yaquir on December 13, 2016, 04:01:43 pm
Very good!
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Sculpt 161213
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on December 13, 2016, 06:24:05 pm
Excellent.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - 3D Sculpt 161213
Post by: Pinky on December 14, 2016, 08:37:14 am
Yes, this all looks great.  The chap in shorts can also be for the Pacific theatre - I assume these trucks were sent to Burma.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Prototype Painted 161216
Post by: Rubicon Models on December 16, 2016, 03:55:03 pm
While waiting for the courier to pickup our Q4/16 new releases for shipping,
we have painted up the British 15cwt truck prototype.  We also made a small
conversion by removing the cab top to expose the cab interior... making it
more suitable for use with our North Africa British force!

An A15 Crusader is there for size comparison... a big truck indeed!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Prototype%20Painted%20161216-1_zpsh5jyituh.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Prototype Painted 161216
Post by: Yaquir on December 16, 2016, 04:44:08 pm
seems to be really big!
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Prototype Painted 161216
Post by: Queeg on December 16, 2016, 05:07:16 pm
That's looking pretty enticing ...... :)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Prototype Painted 161216
Post by: Ballardian on December 18, 2016, 02:07:51 am
That looks great, really looking forward to this kit.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Bren gun 161223
Post by: Rubicon Models on December 23, 2016, 02:33:15 pm
We pay special attention to make sure our hand weapons scaled
nicely with our vehicles and figures... yet not over-scaled!

This Bren gun is an good example - the cyan one is exactly 1/56,
the blue one is 1/53, and the green one is a mix of 1/56 (body)
and 1/53 (stock and barrel) to get a good balance of scale and
practicality... we are insistent on details and quality!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/Bren%20Gun%20161223-1_zpss8ggbtif.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Prototype Painted 161216
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on December 23, 2016, 04:55:02 pm
An A15 Crusader is there for size comparison... a big truck indeed!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Prototype%20Painted%20161216-1_zpsh5jyituh.jpg)
Excellent.

The scaling information on the Bren is useful.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Bren gun 161223
Post by: Marcin on January 03, 2017, 06:45:50 pm
It's brilliant! I can't wait for this kit :-)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Trunk Canvas Top 170216
Post by: Rubicon Models on February 16, 2017, 01:14:51 am
More work is done trying to complete this project on time!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170215-01_zpsplcipdwf.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170215-02_zps6vkivuou.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170215-04_zps9sqjdunf.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170215-03_zpsmtyguyxs.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Trunk Canvas Top 170216
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 16, 2017, 02:20:27 am
Looking forward to this.

Probably not going to be available for Salute 2017 I guess.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Trunk Canvas Top 170216
Post by: ripley on February 16, 2017, 09:09:38 am
The tarps look great , well done
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Trunk Canvas Top 170216
Post by: Yaquir on February 16, 2017, 03:35:53 pm
Looks very good.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Trunk Canvas Top 170216
Post by: H0ffmn on February 16, 2017, 08:54:33 pm
More work is done trying to complete this project on time!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170215-01_zpsplcipdwf.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170215-02_zps6vkivuou.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170215-04_zps9sqjdunf.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170215-03_zpsmtyguyxs.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
When is 'on time'? Is a first quarter release possible??
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Trunk Canvas Top 170216
Post by: Pinky on February 16, 2017, 08:57:03 pm
Everything about this kit is looking great.  Good work on the tarpaulin - very convincing!
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Trunk Canvas Top 170216
Post by: Ballardian on February 17, 2017, 12:31:59 am
I know that we may not see this for a while, but have to say I'm really looking forward to it, it looks great & the tarps on the load bed are fantastic.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Trunk Crew 170222
Post by: Rubicon Models on February 23, 2017, 12:39:33 am
Here are the painted figure samples for the British 15cwt truck.
A driver with two crew options - long and roll up sleeves; suitable
for both North African or European theatre. Note the difference in
facial expression for these figures!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Crew%20170222-01_zpsdh8dsxc8.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Crew%20170222-02_zps8uan1mno.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Crew%20170222-03_zpsotfmphob.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Crew%20170222-04_zpsli2dtgah.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Crew%20170222-05_zpsicp8p0ed.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Crew%20170222-06_zpstgvpdey2.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Crew%20170222-07_zpsgphlj88u.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Trunk Crew 170222
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 23, 2017, 01:55:05 am
Squinting into the sun, excellent.

Will it make it by Salute?
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Trunk Crew 170222
Post by: Rubicon Models on February 23, 2017, 02:13:41 am
Squinting into the sun, excellent.
Will it make it by Salute?

Don't think so!  The truck & crew is still under prototyping.  Had been making a lot of minor changes before we can send the project to mould making.
Would say end of year release!
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Trunk Crew 170222
Post by: ripley on February 23, 2017, 09:27:13 am
Look very good . Any chance of you packaging various vehicle crew figure as separate sets for those of us who would like to recrew the vehicles we already have ? These are much better than the metal figures  you get in other companies kits  ::)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Trunk Canvas 170223
Post by: Rubicon Models on February 23, 2017, 01:48:29 pm
Trying to wrap up this project for sprue layout and mould making.
Still some minor technical issues needed to be resolved, looking
good for now!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170223-01_zps8ujtbyqd.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170223-02_zpsbxygpdun.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170223-03_zpseggnzgmk.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170223-04_zpsffs7e6ho.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15cwt%20Canvas%20Top%20170223-05_zps5hgdgym8.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Trunk Canvas 170223
Post by: Pinky on February 23, 2017, 02:20:51 pm
It looks good to me.  The only query I have (and I don't have many references on this vehicle) is whether the front wheel hubs are correct.  Most of the photos on the net show a protruding centre Like the back wheels, only shallower), rather than the gentle 'dish' shape on this.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Trunk Canvas 170223
Post by: Yaquir on February 23, 2017, 06:20:30 pm
Looks very good.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Trunk Canvas 170223
Post by: ripley on February 23, 2017, 09:31:44 pm
Pinky , would the model ( dish hubs ) be a rear wheel drive and the protruding hubs , 4 wheel drive ?  I'm not really a car nut but that's what 4 wheel drive pick ups hub  look like around here . And there's tons of them here in Alberta
(https://s23.postimg.org/gige1c2zr/a0f5dae6e7624fd6721b10177c386169.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/gige1c2zr/)
CMP Ford 4 wheel drive
(https://s4.postimg.org/okzopd1qx/Ford_Truck.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/okzopd1qx/)
CMP Ford 2 wheel drive . I assume the Chev versions would look just about  the same , except for the Chev logo on the grill
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Trunk Canvas 170223
Post by: Pinky on February 23, 2017, 10:36:14 pm
I don't knowing that's the explanation, Ripley, but I couldn't find any photos of vehicles with the same front hubs as the kit.  Your front wheel drive version looks different.

Here's what seems to be the most common hub type:

(https://s28.postimg.org/id4rtj12x/IMG_0069.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/id4rtj12x/)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Trunk Canvas 170223
Post by: ripley on February 24, 2017, 11:45:37 am
That's about the only difference I can think of . Maybe different suppliers were involved in making the parts for the trucks . I know there are a few collectors sites out there, in Canada and the UK . Very popular vehicle in western Canada , every other farm yard seems to have a wreck of one of the body styles rusting away
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - TS1 Plastic 170502
Post by: Rubicon Models on May 03, 2017, 12:51:05 am
We are finally one step closer to see the CMP getting released... First plastic sprues arrived from our mould maker today!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20TS1%20170502-01_zpsvmg5f39m.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20TS1%20170502-02_zpsjevdjelm.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20TS1%20170502-03_zpswou5s0pn.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20TS1%20170502-04_zpsdfiz7wi2.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20TS1%20170502-05_zpsxki84pf4.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20TS1%20170502-06_zpsswa2431c.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20TS1%20170502-07_zpshsd6atnw.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20TS1%20170502-08_zpsuelff3w9.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20TS1%20170502-09_zpsqwzdpsiw.jpg)

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/British%2015cwt%20TS1%20170502-10_zpsg4zhepuq.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - TS1 Plastic 170502
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 03, 2017, 04:16:42 am
That looks good.

Wikipedia says late 1941 onward for the no. 13 can.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - TS1 Plastic 170502
Post by: Pinky on May 03, 2017, 10:33:11 am
This seems to have progressed very quickly.  It all looks good to me - the detail on the cab and canopy are especially fine.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - TS1 Plastic 170502
Post by: Captain Blood on May 03, 2017, 02:57:49 pm
Excellent. I need this kit  :)
Are we still looking at around October?
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - TS1 Plastic 170502
Post by: Swamprat33 on May 03, 2017, 05:15:51 pm
WOW.
That looks superb.
At least 400% better than the crappy resin one i have now.

Tim
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - TS1 Plastic 170502
Post by: Ballardian on May 03, 2017, 06:44:36 pm
Looks fantastic, the canvas tilt is beautifully done, when can I have one?
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - TS1 Plastic Painted 170530
Post by: Rubicon Models on May 30, 2017, 03:26:40 pm
A quick update on the test assembled and painted CMP truck... from our TS1 plastic sprue!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/Truck%20Convoy%20170530-2_zpseimcoamp.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - TS1 Plastic Painted 170530
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 30, 2017, 03:35:45 pm
Nice, when can we get them?
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - TS1 Plastic Painted 170530
Post by: Pinky on May 30, 2017, 06:17:26 pm
Very nice!  Q3?
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - TS1 Plastic Painted 170530
Post by: Seret on August 20, 2017, 07:09:44 pm
Realise I'm pretty late to this party as you've already got sprues, but can I make a cheeky request for an expansion kit? Passengers!

Right now nobody is making British passengers for trucks and half tracks in 28mm except Victory Force in the US, and postage makes those prohibitively expensive outside the wilds of North America. Warlord seem to be starting to include passengers with their plastic trucks, but so far only Germans.

I'd definitely buy a set of British passengers in battle dress, even if I wasn't buying this kit (although I probably will!)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - TS1 Plastic Painted 170530
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 20, 2017, 09:01:42 pm
Right now nobody is making British passengers for trucks and half tracks in 28mm except Victory Force in the US, and postage makes those prohibitively expensive outside the wilds of North America. Warlord seem to be starting to include passengers with their plastic trucks, but so far only Germans.

Yes, British seated infantrymen are planned. Just waiting for their turn.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - TS1 Plastic Painted 170530
Post by: Ballardian on August 20, 2017, 11:26:51 pm
 Lovely, the waiting is killing me though :'( & fantastic to hear passengers are also inbound.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - TS1 Plastic Painted 170530
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on August 20, 2017, 11:28:25 pm
Very nice!  Q3?
Are you still waiting on final bits and pieces  for this?

After the M4A2?
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - TS1 Plastic Painted 170530
Post by: Pinky on August 21, 2017, 12:10:41 am
It must be coming - they've done the box art for it.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - TS1 Plastic Painted 170530
Post by: Captain Blood on August 21, 2017, 12:27:34 am
So getting a couple of these...  8)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet 170822
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 23, 2017, 12:54:01 am
Preliminary design of the CMP 15cwt truck decal sheet... Comments welcome!

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Waterslide%20Decals/British%2015cwt%20Truck%20Decal%20170820-1s_zpseytvxcd9.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet 170822
Post by: Captain Blood on August 23, 2017, 02:36:16 pm
Were the vehicle identification / serial numbers always in white? On a pale sand coloured vehicle for the Western Desert, they aren't going to stand out terribly well. Perhaps a mix of numbers in black as well as white, like the decal sheet for the Crusader? May or may not be historically accurate, but would certainly look more effective on light coloured vehicles  :)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - TS1 Plastic Painted 170530
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on August 23, 2017, 02:41:17 pm
It must be coming - they've done the box art for it.
In my defence, they posted the art after my post ^___^
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet 170822
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on August 23, 2017, 02:49:38 pm
Looking at the decal set, what else can it be used for (the sheet is titled British Trucks)?

More hygienic than using animal entrails to divine the future.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet 170822
Post by: Pinky on August 23, 2017, 03:24:38 pm
Were the vehicle identification / serial numbers always in white? On a pale sand coloured vehicle for the Western Desert, they aren't going to stand out terribly well. Perhaps a mix of numbers in black as well as white, like the decal sheet for the Crusader? May or may not be historically accurate, but would certainly look more effective on light coloured vehicles  :)

They were usually black on desert vehicles, or sometimes white on a black rectangle.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet 170822
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 23, 2017, 03:30:32 pm
They were usually black on desert vehicles, or sometimes white on a black rectangle.

From photographs that we came across, they were basically white letterings on trucks even for desert vehicles.  This is definitely true for restored trucks in colour photos.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet 170822
Post by: Captain Blood on August 24, 2017, 01:40:44 am
Thanks for the response.
I'm by no means an expert compared to many of your contributors here, but I'm not sure I'd take restored vehicles as too much of a reliable reference point. I've seen a lot of quite garishly painted restored vehicles in photos from AFV museums, sometimes in what seem to be quite vivid and fanciful paint schemes... They often seem to be painted in thick layers of high gloss paint too, which I'm fairly sure wasn't the case with the original vehicles  :)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet 170822
Post by: Captain Blood on August 24, 2017, 01:53:14 am
Sorry to now come across like a dog with a bone, but two minutes on Google image search reveals this...

I don't know if this is in North Africa - looks rather like it might be. But it's certainly a very light coloured CMP truck with the ID numbers in black, or maybe dark grey...

I think you should consider turning a few of those white serial number decals black  ;D

(http://knowledgeglue.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Ford-Truck.jpg)

Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet 170822
Post by: Pinky on August 24, 2017, 08:23:08 am
My source was 'The New Breed'.  And any number of photos.  It's true that the numbers were sometimes white - when it comes to the British Army there are no 'black and white' answers.  But restored vehicles aren't a good guide.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
Post by: Rubicon Models on August 27, 2017, 12:50:06 pm
The final version of the British 15cwt CPM Truck decal sheet:

(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Waterslide%20Decals/British%2015cwt%20Truck%20Decal%20170820-1F_zpskfj1fgyz.jpg)

Enjoy!
;)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
Post by: ripley on August 27, 2017, 01:08:26 pm
Looks great .
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on August 27, 2017, 03:16:50 pm
I agree.

Now someone needs to explain the War Department serial numbers to me ^___^
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
Post by: ripley on August 27, 2017, 10:19:45 pm
Info gleaned from Canadiansoldier.com under Vehicles ( markings general ) - 1st off the 2 letter combo  C ?  is used only on Canadian vehicles :  CA - Ambulance . CC - Motorbike . CF - Armored Car / Scout Car . CH - Artillery Tractors . CL - Lorry ( truck for all you Yanks  ;D ) 30 cwt or larger . CM - Staff Car / Jeep . CS - Self Propelled Gun . CT - Universal Carrier / Tank . CX - Trailers . CZ - Lorry under 15 cwt . So most if not all the decals on the sheet are for Canadian vehicles  , but easy enough to cut off the 1st letter , and your good . I assume the NZ code would be for Kiwi vehicles , no idea what the Aussies had as a letter prefix or if they even were allowed to drive  ::)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on August 27, 2017, 10:43:41 pm
Thanks, so Z prefix for basic British trucks.

Interesting images if you Google for them, a number with autocannon on the load bed (Breda and German).

Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
Post by: Pinky on August 28, 2017, 12:04:03 am
In British service, the Z prefix was for lorries under 15cwt.  L was for lorries over 15cwt (so theoretically there shouldn't be any for this vehicle).  H was for wheeled artillery tractors (I don't think these vehicles were used as gun tractors).  So as Ripley said most of these war department numbers are for Canadian vehicles.  I have no idea if that was Rubicon's intention.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
Post by: ripley on August 28, 2017, 12:38:41 am
I wonder if  CMP trucks  were  given WD numbers in Canada , ( the number minus  the letter prefix would be assigned to vehicle for its lifespan )  so they would have Canadian lettering when shipped overseas . You would assume the end user  UK units would change the Letters  when received , but maybe they better things to do , like fight a war ?  I 've seen pictures of  some Canadian units with tanks that had just a T number , not CT , maybe replacements rushed into combat , we'll paint them later sort of thing ? It will easy to cut off the C to make them Brit trucks
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
Post by: Captain Blood on August 28, 2017, 01:30:33 am
Looks great  8)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
Post by: tyroflyer on August 28, 2017, 07:53:57 am
@ ripley. Too many aussies were flying Lancasters on the way to Germany to worry about driving :D.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
Post by: ripley on August 28, 2017, 09:30:18 am
That makes sense , less chance of bumping into something up at 10,000 feet  ;D .  Anyone have an idea of what the P stands for on this amphibious jeep ?
(https://s2.postimg.org/fus3rmr8l/Hmmm_P.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/fus3rmr8l/)
Its a reconnaissance regiment [41] of the 2nd or 3rd Canadian Infantry Division  , so there should be a C ....right ? I love it when you find a chart that explains all the vehicle codes and stuff and  you figure you got it sorted , and then you find something like this  :o
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
Post by: tyroflyer on August 28, 2017, 10:51:06 am
As this photo is post war could the convention have changed?
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
Post by: ripley on August 28, 2017, 12:10:44 pm
It seems I missed a few letters  :-[  the British War Department also had D ( Dragons artillery tow ) , E ( Engineer vehicles ) , P ( Amphibious  - Duwks & SEEPs ) , R (  the terrible idea Roto Trailer ) and V ( vans ) . E,P,& V added late war.
(https://s2.postimg.org/4ld61wqcl/vicker10.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4ld61wqcl/)
Light Dragon artillery tractor BEF
(https://s2.postimg.org/nf3kcndyd/scan0015.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/nf3kcndyd/)
Roto Trailer - filled with ammo and fuel ( in wheels ! ) towed by Valentine / Churchill tanks - seen in North Africa
(https://s2.postimg.org/jk06a2usl/scan0014.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/jk06a2usl/)
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
Post by: Pinky on August 28, 2017, 12:26:12 pm
Its a reconnaissance regiment [41] of the 2nd or 3rd Canadian Infantry Division  , so there should be a C ....right ? I love it when you find a chart that explains all the vehicle codes and stuff and  you figure you got it sorted , and then you find something like this  :o

Right.  I found a photo of a 15cwt truck in the desert with an L prefix number.  Maybe it was overloaded...
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on August 28, 2017, 02:46:02 pm
Right.  I found a photo of a 15cwt truck in the desert with an L prefix number.  Maybe it was overloaded...
Does anyone know what a 30cwt CMP looks like?
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
Post by: johan on August 28, 2017, 04:24:48 pm
Here are the prefix codes for vehicle numbers, if canadian it was preceded with an extra C. As you can see P means amphibious.

A    Ambulance
C    Motorcycle
D    Dragons (tracked towing vehicles)
E    Engineer vehicles (bulldozers)
F    Armoured scout car or armoured car
H    Tractor (artillery tractor)
L    Lorry (30cwt or heavier)
M    Car (including Jeep)
P    Amphibious
R    Rota trailer
S    Self propelled artillery
T    Tracked vehicles (tank and universal carriers)
V    Van
X    Trailers
Z    Truck (15cwt and smaller), white scout car, halftrac
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on September 01, 2017, 11:26:48 pm
I did wonder if these were used by the LRDG, not definitive, but Wikipedia says that Ford 15cwt CAMP were used as command vehicles (Chevrolet 30cwt for line vehicles). Not sure on the cab type though.

I was just glancing through the Bolt Action LRDG list.
Title: Re: British 15cwt CMP Truck - Decal Sheet Final 170827
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on October 18, 2017, 01:59:31 am
Back on the LRDG list, and with reference to the discussion on the German flak quad cannon on the Opel, could you mount the PAK 36 on the load bed as an LRDG AT truck?

I know that they used 30cwt Chevys but no one does them in plastic (hint hint).