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Title: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on September 03, 2015, 04:01:13 PM
Hi,

This is my first table ready Rubicon kit and my first post.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-px-Jcjx2Fuk/VeffbiqxS6I/AAAAAAAAA7E/Vy18TgRFgvk/s1600/tiger7.png)


The vehicle id is based on the Abteitung 508 format, and I think the smoke dischargers are wrong for a late war Tiger.

Oh, and someone has started to clean the first outer wheel, not sure why.

A Crooked Dice William Killen for scale.

Now once I have the German stowage set I can finish the M4A3.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on November 29, 2015, 06:01:09 PM
Work In Progress Panzer III with help from the German Stowage set.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wEowuZMqz44/VlbFhm7yKuI/AAAAAAAABLI/VpVtytDEDBM/s1600/panzeriii-1.png)
The brown box fouls the turret slightly, an HO scale item.

Two jerry cans are behind the rail and the large crate sits on the rear deck, both secured with microstrip straps. There is a bucket hanging off the back as well. There is spare track on the roof and between the machine gun and the driver's hatch. Brackets secure them in place (I added the bracket to the short piece after the photograph was taken).

I have added additional soft stowage from greenstuff and a covered crate (two of the HO boxes covered with greenstuff).  There is still more to add.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on November 29, 2015, 06:10:55 PM
Work In Progress M4A3.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rvsMbxG8ZUg/VM5OBP6QHmI/AAAAAAAAA3s/MQex7Ch4OGI/s1600/m4a3side2.png)

This has been on hold for quite a while, mainly because I have no idea what to do with it. If I had done my research I would have used the 75mm turret with the 76mm gun as an M4A3E4 (with or without the Company B decals).

http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/m4a3e4/m4a3e4.html (http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/m4a3e4/m4a3e4.html)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on December 01, 2015, 07:16:06 PM
I like how your DAK Panzer III is progressing.  I'd consider replacing the tracks, running gear and exhaust with the StuG III's, which are much more accurate.  You also need to 'lose' one of the row of 4 armoured louvres on the engine deck, as there should only be 3.   

Regarding your M4A3, consider doing some work on the turret to get it looking more like the real thing.  It's mostly a case of carving away the lower part of the bustle, and rounding everything off.  Nice idea to do an M4A3E4 - but do you want a Pakistani tank?
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on December 03, 2015, 01:09:56 AM

Thanks.

Rats, I had not got as far as checking the Stug III. Not sure how easy it would be to remove the cover. The cover is slightly above the air filter, so it might be possible. Of course I undercoated it last night.

I thought the E4 would go nice with Artizan's Big Joe and Co figures (and the Company B decals). There is a temptation to build a "Furry" T34 from the T34 leftovers to go with it.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on December 05, 2015, 12:03:50 PM
It's the louvres nearer the turret which are wrong.  Here's how the engine deck should look:
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on December 05, 2015, 06:13:51 PM
Thanks for the picture.

Looking at the model, the air filter, the etched item in your picture (that is what I assume it is) is higher than the cover, but only just, which makes access difficult. Not having a  millling tool, it will require scalpel work at a very limited angle from the front (the top of your picture).

I ended up looking at the PSC site for a deck picture, my limited library did not have any deck pictures, and I only have the late war Barford book (my lazy look up book) which uses the III for the what it is page but no overhead view, though it does have the Stug.

I think I will put this to one side while I complete the Crusader and the post war T34 and return to it later.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_QG0QnzBho0/Vl3mWiJYgcI/AAAAAAAABNY/qbcVhe1HR88/s1600/T34-85-2.png)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Xld-O-RA_mo/Vl3mWn5yrkI/AAAAAAAABNU/jX008eEVqhk/s1600/T34-85-1.png)

The T34 has some turret shape tweaks to better match the IWM example.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on December 05, 2015, 08:58:10 PM
Looking at the model, the air filter, the etched item in your picture (that is what I assume it is) is higher than the cover, but only just, which makes access difficult. Not having a  millling tool, it will require scalpel work at a very limited angle from the front (the top of your picture).

No, I'm talking about the rectangular armoured louvres, not the air intakes.  If you look at the Rubicon Panzer III, it has a row of 4 louvres across the deck, while the (correct) model above only has 3.

The Crusader looks very nice - I haven't seen the kit assembled.  Mine will be the AA version.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on December 15, 2015, 01:55:33 AM
Hi, sorry I have been off grid (work...).

The air filters are higher than the cover that needs to be removed, so access is either from the turret space or perpendicular to the cover, as I lack a milling device it would be the former.

The Crusader went together nicely, the only problem is the turret half joins, it needs to be perfect before gluing, as those rivets make post gluing clean up difficult.

More spare track pieces would be nice, Pinky's picture shows additional pieces.

There will be an AA one next.

Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on December 15, 2015, 03:27:51 AM
The air filters are higher than the cover that needs to be removed, so access is either from the turret space or perpendicular to the cover, as I lack a milling device it would be the former.
Of course if anyone has any ideas on alternative methods that would be helpful.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: H0ffmn on December 15, 2015, 08:46:48 AM
You could drill out the fourth air filter, from the inside of the hull,as it is raised up and hollow below the engine deck. You could then fill it with putty and carefully sand it flat
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: H0ffmn on December 15, 2015, 10:18:16 AM
Or if the hull is already assembled,you could drill out the fourth air filter from the top along the edges of the air filter,file the edges off so that it is flat with the engine deck,then fill the hole with putty and sand it flat with the engine deck
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on December 15, 2015, 04:52:52 PM
Thanks.

Due to the excellent design of the Rubicon models, I tend to leave them in three or four components right up to the last moment (the Sherman having the transmission cover loose).

The cover has a convenient inner shape so the suggestion of drilling from behind sounds like a good idea.

I will dig out the pin drill out tonight.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 05, 2016, 06:55:25 AM
Progress at last.

First, I drilled the cover.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lndg2RJymcs/VrPQlFjS4DI/AAAAAAAABRI/H8yKYdIooTg/s1600/panzeriii-drilled2.png)
Then I filled the gap with plastic card and filled the remains with milliput.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-H7Jjec0BCiY/VrPQllTJGII/AAAAAAAABRU/pcsItupA1H4/s1600/panzeriii-fix1.png)
A Crooked Dice 70's television British Corporal shares the workspace.

This (the Panzer III) was sanded with a bespoke sanding stick (craft lolly stick cut to size to apply sand paper in the limited space.

Now colour undercoated.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HmkFOElFNTg/VrPQl59gqZI/AAAAAAAABRY/aGtfw2iPKYM/s1600/panzeriii-undercoat1.png)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on February 05, 2016, 09:54:14 AM
Nice bit of surgery there . Always a pain to find something needs to be removed when most of the kit is glued together   ::) . For sanding sticks I use cheap fiber board women's nail files from the dollar store . I get around 40 for a buck .  Easy to trim to a very narrow width to get those seams on fenders and other small spaces .  It's pretty much use them once and throw away as they plug up with plastic  but  at such a cheap price  who cares
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on February 05, 2016, 10:36:05 AM
Nice job removing the louvre and filling the space.  I would probably have cheated and just covered the space with a tarpaulin...

I like your stowage - it looks very natural.  You are very good at sculpting the soft stowage too.  There's an art to making stowage look as though it's been put there by the crew and not just randomly stuck to the model. 
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 06, 2016, 06:47:02 PM
Thanks.

My concern is trying to work out where crew would place kit, so it does foul hatches or the turret and does not sit on ventilators, exhausts, crank handle sockets....

The Steve Zaloga Osprey modelling book on the Sherman 76mm has some useful pointers.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 14, 2016, 02:41:13 AM
So I have finished the Panzer III M (for the moment).

Pinky and I have both looking for evidence of Panzer III M's in North Africa. Pinky found an example in a Concorde book, and I found one in the Osprey book. There may be another picture in the Osprey book - there is a posed picture shot from the right rear showing a number of British soldiers with BREN guns, it has the same single number on the turret bin.

On page five of the Osprey New Vanguard book on the Panzer III there is a picture of an M knocked out in Tunisia. This is my attempt at a similar picture. The angle is not quite right.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bio8zD7A57I/Vr9wrThe_hI/AAAAAAAABRs/JcBDiIJrXb8/s1600/panzeriii-finished2.png)
The number on the turret side is not quite the right size, and lacks the outlining described in the text (the one on the turret bin does have white outlining - unfortunately I did not realise when I was putting the transfers on the model).
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vcNzr4QSH7A/Vr9wrxckZsI/AAAAAAAABRw/dCX_bu2R6SI/s1600/panzeriii-finished3.png)
Soft stowage is green stuff, hard stowage is a mixture of Rubicon stowage (jerry cans, crate, bucket) and scratch built items (some using HO scale boxes as a core).
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SNvKGUgzLjg/Vr9wrdfhshI/AAAAAAAABRo/8eDzlKAxr5s/s1600/panzeriii-finished1.png)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: chrismanu87 on February 14, 2016, 05:11:25 AM
@ultravanillasmurf
This panzer is very good, which colour have you used?
 :P
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on February 14, 2016, 12:23:57 PM
Great to see this painted, UVS.  The stowage is really good - it looks very authentic (the helmets hanging from the smoke dischargers etc).  I wish I could get my hands on more of those railway crates - I had a pile of them but they've been frittered away over the years.  I'd suggest just a bit more shading around the hatches, to enhance the detail.

Here are a couple of photos of Ausf Ms in Tunisia, including the Osprey photo that UVS mentioned.  I think they were with 10th Panzer Division, which used single-digit turret numbers.  They seem to have been painted in Dunkelgelb (i.e. not the usual Gelbraun), but it's hard to be sure.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 14, 2016, 03:55:27 PM
Thanks for the nice comments.

The base colour (as spotted by Pinky) is PSC DunkelGelb,  plate B3 (an N) in the Osprey book is described as being in the mustard colour (together with olive green!) that was popular for tanks in Tunisia.

The PSC spray is a slightly different shade to the Vallejo one so needs careful shading in. The highlights are Army Painter Skeleton Bone.

Following Pinky's suggestion I will run some Citadel Earthshade round the hatches, but first back to dressing up the Crusader. I have found a nice picture of the rear deck in the Osprey Operation Crusader book.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 17, 2016, 07:33:19 PM
I wish I could get my hands on more of those railway crates - I had a pile of them but they've been frittered away over the years.
Knightwing International supply them in the UK: PM101 Crates, Barrels and Sacks. Not sure who actually makes them,
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on March 11, 2016, 04:39:36 PM
Okay, a couple of work in progress pictures.

First the Crusader (yes I am still working on it).

Thanks to Pinky I have a picture showing the stowage rail (and Osprey have a rear view picture in Campaign 220: Operation Crusader).

I do worry that Crusader MkIIIs do not have the stowage rail, but it is now a bit late.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PJ2d_7xdBqw/VuKAXycXaLI/AAAAAAAABSs/s2UVNppKXvgzio2ubOgmySkwc0EYIIW0A/s1600/crusaderwip3.png)
I should have checked the position of the end of the long six pounder with the turret rotated to the rear, luckily it just fits but I will need to be careful with the stowage when I sculpt it.

From the Osprey picture, I am building a jerry can rack to go above the radiator grill (yes I used the grill that does not take the spare fuel tank). This is a work in progress shot.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ltJX-GcD4-A/VuJ9pKxCC5I/AAAAAAAABSU/YvG8ZqW71XgrVcbkhsKaN2yzoTmpwceCg/s1600/jerrycanrack2.png)
Four cans from the German Stowage set with the rack made from 0.030" square section Slaters micro strip and straps made from 0.030" by 0.010" micro strip. The end pieces of the rack need to be added and a lot of trimming is required.

It is being built on a glass plate to make it easy to remove.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on March 12, 2016, 01:11:58 PM
Crusader IIIs definitely had the 'stowage rails', but they were actually part of the 'sunshade' device, which was intended to disguise the tank as a truck.  The rails (which were flat, not rounded) were attached to brackets that were welded to the sand shields.  A Crusader III with the sunshade device fittings would often (but not always) be painted in a wavy sand/black camo with the middle 3 roadwheels painted black.  The rails were a convenient place for hanging stowage.  I'd put up some photos for you, but I still can't upload them.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on March 12, 2016, 04:29:15 PM
Thanks.

I did wonder about their intended use, the tanks had rather a lot of tarpaulins so I wondered if they were used to break up their profile when at rest. I thought I had seen a picture of one with lots of 'lean-to' shelter (not the Tunisia photograph in the Osprey Crusader book - page 23).I did not realise it was part of the lorry disguise.

Now that would be an interesting option.

You are right that the rail on the skirts is rectangular in section, but I am going to need to add a lot of rod to the tarpaulins.

I will have a look in Churchill's Wizards and see if they have more details.

Thanks.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on March 12, 2016, 05:42:04 PM
That sunshade device wasn't carried on the tank when not in use.  The tarpaulins you've seen hanging from Crusaders (and Grants and Shermans) were indeed shelters etc. for the crew.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on March 12, 2016, 08:03:57 PM
Thank for letting me know, less bits to add to the tank.

Edit: rats, two mistakes (possibly three): Poor choice of stowage to work on, now I have to wait for the green stuff to set; I have hung a tarpaulin from the rail rather than from the rail's hangers - it is too low. Last issue is the tarpaulin hanging over the left side - it first fouled the turret (fixed) but while fixing it I ran out of time to sculpt the rest of it (see first problem). It will need reworking.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on March 13, 2016, 01:57:17 AM
I'm sure you'll fix these issues, given your skill at sculpting stowage.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on March 13, 2016, 07:24:35 AM
Thanks.

Current state of the tank:
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lElOKUuZWIk/VuSe4PfVCBI/AAAAAAAABTQ/NEPsyq4SupYbDkmg42xXG_-lv46N2q4hw/s1600/crusaderwip7.png)

You can see how the tarpaulin is low on the right hand side.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jMhmqZ4n-mo/VuSe4DRBe5I/AAAAAAAABTI/1O7h-XAVfnE1Xiv4sLmFeBlnzNDwBdxqw/s1600/crusaderwip8.png)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on March 13, 2016, 07:42:16 AM
Looking really good . I can never get my Green Stuff to do what I want , what's your secret ?
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on March 13, 2016, 11:46:54 AM
I can never get my Green Stuff to do what I want , what's your secret ?

Me neither!

That said, I think the front end of the rolled tarp on the right side is defying gravity a bit.  You could also hang a few Tamiya British knapsacks off the side rails.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on March 13, 2016, 04:24:05 PM
That said, I think the front end of the rolled tarp on the right side is defying gravity a bit.  You could also hang a few Tamiya British knapsacks off the side rails.
I have been concerned with the left side, I had not noticed that.
It is also true of the back of the tarp.

I will claim there are tent poles wrapped up in it ^___^.

Somewhere I have some 4.X mm square section evergreen strip which I used for backpacks on one of the Shermans, they will be added to the side rails as you suggest.

Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on March 13, 2016, 06:07:33 PM
I can never get my Green Stuff to do what I want , what's your secret ?
Me neither!
Thanks for the kind words.

I do not always get it to work, just look at the left side of the Crusader. I have just bought my third GW pack of greenstuff, I bought the first when the Fellowship of the Ring game came out, so I have not used it much.

Here are some rambling thoughts.

(Note, I will use the word sculpting, but in no way am I claiming to be able to sculpt anywhere on the same planet as Kev White or the Perry twins - it is just more efficient than saying poking clumsily with the pointy end of a scalpel).

I try and limit what I am sculpting, so, if I want some British back packs, I make an armature out of Evergreen square section strip and add a flap and straps from micro strip. Once that is dry I use green stuff to make it look less like a box. One of my Bolt Action Shermans has a couple of those backpacks. The Crusader has a tarp wrapped box on the left rear mudguard, I used an HO scale box as an armature pinned to the mudguard.

The other thing is that though greenstuff is sticky, it does not stick enough on flat surfaces. I drill the location and glue plastic rod to the surface to provide a firm anchorage point and an indication of the intended height (too much facial reconstruction on television ^___^). You can see examples on the Crusader.

Tools wise, most of the work is done with my trusty Swann Morton scalpel with a 10A blade and a Hasslefree blister pack containing water in the back (also used as a pallette). I do have an old pipe scraper tool, not mine I hasten to add which gets used for sculpting (proper tools are available).

I have previously used a piece of PTFE sheet taped to plastic card as a non stick surface, but after 20 years it is not very non stick. I have just started using an off cut of what I am told is PTFE which made rolling the greenstuff a lot easier.

The key things are:
Real examples- look at pictures of the real thing and models that look right. The Osprey modelling book on the US 76mm Sherman has some nice examples.
Placement - where is the item going, how would it flow. Is it clear of intakes and exhausts, hatches and viewing ports?
Gravity- yup slightly forgot that, fabric items will sag, think how gravity will affect the shape.
Fixings - related to gravity above. How is the item fixed so it does not fall off and how does that affect the shape.
Story - it is there for a reason, what is that reason: covering or holding something down or stopping something moving.
Time - greenstuff remains soft but not workable for a period of time, work on items so that you will not be putting finger prints on your previous work.

Simple blanket/tarpaulin roll on a horizontal surface:

Drill the surface in two or more places and glue in suitable lengths of plastic rod. Ensure they do not interfere on the underside.

Cut and mix your greenstuff. Roll it into a suitable diameter sausage of the required length (actually make it slightly longer and cut off square). PTFE material might make it easier, or use polythene. Remember some people are allergic to the epoxy, so gloves might be required.

Square up the ends.

Place the greenstuff on the surface and flatten it out, making sure the ends remain squarish.

With the end of the scalpel work your way round the end of the roll teasing the edge of the end out in a full squashed circle, this is the outer part of the roll. Then work your way in in a spiral. Use plenty of water.

Next, having noted where you are going to tie the roll to the surface, with the wet scalpel make two parallel marks for the strap. If the strap is attached beyond the roll, extend the strap.

Carefully, being careful to not 'tear' the surface, with the scalpel depress the surface at a shallow angle from the strap to give some depth to the strap. Add some creases.

Repeat for the other straps.

Now some rolls will have an exposed end, you need to make a smooth line along the roll, missing the straps, gently depressing the lower material while lifting the upper to make a nice edge. When you reach the end, tuck the lower part underneath the upper.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on March 14, 2016, 12:11:16 AM
Nope, not happy with the left hand tarp:
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-As86Io3_6l4/VuWP8HKm1SI/AAAAAAAABTo/N2YReazs_0MBKOhw7m_F4jpGxG-RFpyYA/s1600/crusaderwip12.png)

So I have removed it.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kI1T8x4n2RE/VuWP8nwpDNI/AAAAAAAABTw/g6hmQaDdHJs1ZMT7EFqnRmtSh9GVfdfxw/s1600/crusaderwip14.png)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on March 14, 2016, 12:44:07 AM
Thanks for sharing you method , I'll have to pick up some new GS and give it a try, the stuff I have is dead .I didn't close the container tight and it dried out   ::)  I thought that tarp looked pretty good actually .There are lots of pictures of badly loaded / tied on equipment , some blocking the turret or even dragging on the ground . Things do shift on a moving vehicle , I guess it depends if the photos are taken during a routine  route march from A to B,  where you have time to put things right  before you leave  or a bug out under fire where stuff is just thrown on the vehicle as you get out of Dodge !
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on March 14, 2016, 01:30:51 AM
Nope, not happy with the left hand tarp:

So I have removed it.

I do that kind of thing all the time.  Which is why everything takes so long to finish.  That, and I keep starting new kits...
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on March 14, 2016, 02:55:43 AM
Thanks.

@Ripley, I kept mine in a Coppleston castings blister pack (and the two sheets of plastic). It did cease to be adhesive after a number of years.

A good way to practice is to put a strip of sticky tape on a piece of wood (you know the one you use to hold figures when spray painting) and then drill through it with a pin vice. Put some rod of required diameter in the hole and use that to hold your test piece. Once set, it can be removed. If you like the piece, you can just drill a hole in your model, shorten the plastic rod and glue it on.

Yes stowage can shift, but it needs to have a story and I did not feel it was right. Its replacement is not perfect (it is held by attachments at the ends only, there should be slightly more sag).

Now I am waiting for it to set, I have added three armatures for packs.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on March 14, 2016, 03:02:46 AM
Nope, not happy with the left hand tarp:

So I have removed it.

I do that kind of thing all the time.  Which is why everything takes so long to finish.  That, and I keep starting new kits...

Me too...

This (http://thedicebaglady.net/bad-squiddo-games-tank-commanders/) has inspired me to finally dig out the Rubicon T34/75.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on March 14, 2016, 04:20:22 AM
LOL  . I ordered mine yesterday . I've got 9 T-34s , so one needs a female crew . I've got pictures in one of my books , somewhere , of a female Russian tank ace and her T-34 named Faithful Wife , or something like that . Will have to practice my freehand painting to put the name on the side of the turret  :)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: chrismanu87 on March 14, 2016, 09:54:05 PM
LOL  . I ordered mine yesterday . I've got 9 T-34s , so one needs a female crew . I've got pictures in one of my books , somewhere , of a female Russian tank ace and her T-34 named Faithful Wife , or something like that . Will have to practice my freehand painting to put the name on the side of the turret  :)
I know this story....a model will be great!
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on March 19, 2016, 07:33:59 PM
For various reasons I have not been updating the work in progress Crusader.

So I replaced the tarp and added armatures for the packs out of 4.7mm square section tube.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HutjmqJjoSA/Vu00DI3zPdI/AAAAAAAABUE/ZUAaVCCTdusRe_9X4m85jLD5-87bIsjwA/s1600/crusaderwip16.png)
The armatures are pinned to the sand shields. They are then filled with greenstuff and detailed with micro strip.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-hZFNPBPylEc/Vu00DpYXfWI/AAAAAAAABUM/tHCPkhsIliYydm2AjQ38Ylfo0DofCDkeA/s1600/crusaderwip18.png)

So it was then undercoated, first with Citadel Chaos Black then Humbrol Desert Yellow. It does look rather dark, I do wonder if Desert Tan would be better.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nhG0hqbZM_s/Vu00D8tgJqI/AAAAAAAABUY/wgyUiLnB390UBEVQl8DAniOrSw841OYHA/s1600/crusaderwip22.png)
What do you think?
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on March 19, 2016, 10:39:54 PM
Looking really good . I'll have to try your method of making packs . Have you thought of casting a few in resin to keep a supply of extras for other builds ? Always seems it takes quite a while to scratch a detail part or 10 , but casting parts , once you get the initial mold made , takes 5 minutes . The color does look a little dark . Maybe try dry brushing a lighter color over top ? I usually try  various shades of dry brush on the under side of my tanks , which I paint , but no one ever sees . Could also try a wash , I just got a Vallejo Desert Dust wash ( # 76.522 ) , which I'm going to try on my Tunisian Tiger and Panzer III N .
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on March 20, 2016, 01:19:17 AM
The stowage really captures the look of an Alamein-era Crusader. 

I wouldn't worry about the base colour being too dark.  Once you've shaded it and highlighted it, it'll be fine.   
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on March 20, 2016, 05:40:06 PM
Thanks for the thoughts.

@Ripley - I hod not thought of casting the packs, that is a good idea, it would also make them more consistent. My local Hobbyz R Uz franchise sells casting kits, I will have a look.

I will have a look for the Vallejo dust wash.

Normally the underside of my vehicles remains Chaos Black, though having read a BA painting guide, the underside of the Crusader is Mournfang Brown (an attempt a spray shading of the wheels). The underside of an Empress T90 is patch painted where I was trying to match PSC Russian Tank Green spray with any acrylic paint.

This morning I block painted everything that is not hull colour and once that is dry I will give it a serious dry brushing with desert tan. I will then give it a light wash before detail painting, decals, shading,highlighting and weathering.

Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on March 27, 2016, 08:39:31 PM
So, this is nearly finished (it was only after taking the pictures I noticed I had forgotten to paint the lens of the lamp on the turret, and I need to install the brush guard for the right hand headlight).

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gRE21tOSch0/VvfRvadLGgI/AAAAAAAABVg/lHfKiTgAWBY8uLa9ksQLHMOM_S64jgRlw/s1600/crusaderwip37.png)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-u0MWQJHdrxE/VvfRva2eyVI/AAAAAAAABVc/608cGoalsZI2k5pPj39XnVTij0dXZlzkg/s1600/crusaderwip36.png)
I think the ID flashes are a bit far forward.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ERzD2PgLJ7s/VvfRvFibjhI/AAAAAAAABVY/CF0RADi0lbIkMbNlIWq-rFRFkKGh04AJw/s1600/crusaderwip35.png)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UVxCs338uJc/VvfRvAAZ6CI/AAAAAAAABVU/H6S5AlwAZbw0KyFlhsxx_t5P0d8QAtJjw/s1600/crusaderwip34.png)
And almost none of the contemporary photographs have unit markers, perhaps due to over zealous censors?
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ejCDnny7tls/VvfRuxJ2vDI/AAAAAAAABVQ/403TkbUc_Hw6ZYO8QbBr3M3T3-wbvYx8A/s1600/crusaderwip33.png)

Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on March 31, 2016, 11:34:09 PM
I missed this update.  The colour looks right (in fact it looks just like my Airfix Crusaders, which were painted in Humbrol "8th Army Desert Sand").  I think it needs some more shading though, to add some depth to the colour and make the rivet detail 'pop'.  Nothing too dramatic - just a subtle wash.  I wouldn't overdo the rust effects; contrary to the belief of a lot of modellers that tanks should be rust-streaked, in fact most AFVs didn't last long enough to develop the level of rusting that's common on models. 
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 03, 2016, 04:10:56 PM
Thanks.

The base was Humbrol 93 dry brushed with Humbrol 237. I used Desert Yellow (93) as the base coat for my Perry  Eighth Army figures.

I agree about the rust, the only bits I deliberately rust are spare track, and in this case only sparingly.

I have used some Citadel Earthshade on joints and for shading raised detail, but they do look a bit like rust (I normally use original Citadel Flesh Wash for rust streaks and shading). The Citadel Nuln oil might be better for the joints, I used it round the turret hatch.

What has surprised me is the difference between my "daylight" work light and flash photographs.

Work light:
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RSgOZCzOoZY/VvfRuFPmw_I/AAAAAAAABU0/WYbw1qJm9MQkfvragbZ-ycpNqn9g-Ig4A/s1600/crusaderwip26.png)
Flash:
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gRE21tOSch0/VvfRvadLGgI/AAAAAAAABVg/lHfKiTgAWBY8uLa9ksQLHMOM_S64jgRlw/s1600/crusaderwip37.png)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on April 03, 2016, 05:58:44 PM
Looking good.  I think your flash has bleached out some of the shading.  Maybe a bit of wear and tear on the paint around the hatches?  Again, 'chipping' is often wildly overdone, but some bare metal would look realistic.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 23, 2016, 03:32:55 AM
Well, Salute provided a few things to build and paint...
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-98bbrzW83uA/VxpmlfVQ7QI/AAAAAAAABYs/rMhEyfMXhi48FOfIN0L7NnGy50rxqeCpQCLcB/s1600/rubiconstack1.png)

I also bought some PSC British Tank spray useful as only one of the above is not going to be undercoated green.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 23, 2016, 07:12:30 AM
So, the Hetzer has been assembled.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-i826rXZvFgU/Vxqp0DhnZgI/AAAAAAAABa0/M2Toc_hjoqIcm2luaCholFnljhV-pz-NwCLcB/s1600/hetzer1-1.png)

There is some work required on the tracks at the rear:
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qP971yBCoeU/Vxqp0MEW67I/AAAAAAAABa4/8cJdybq81_kKZmj3HvkGP2Zhxg0XZx-jQCLcB/s1600/hetzer1-2.png)
I have fitted the exhaust set with the silencer.

And the other side:
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VrJkaV5tUgY/Vxqp0DpjdLI/AAAAAAAABaw/uAFLSjuG_ec9oK0xIgmOK06gXlujknV-QCLcB/s1600/hetzer1-3.png)

I have fitted the driver's periscope with the cover, later models deleted the armoured cover but it was fitted with a rain cover.

I am not sure there is much to add, none of the photographs I have found of Hetzers show any additional equipment attached. Photographs of the similar G13 are a another matter.

Now will the weather be suitable for spray painting on Saturday?
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on April 23, 2016, 07:56:27 AM
So yours is an early version.  It's a great kit, isn't it.  The level of detail and precision is very high.

You're right about the lack of stowage on these vehicles (which is odd considering how little more internal space they had - where did the crew put all their stuff?).  You sometimes see a jerrycan slung on the side.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 23, 2016, 03:49:09 PM
I was using the May 1945 model from the Osprey modelling book as inspiration, it is based on the US Aberdeen Proving Ground example. It has the plain silencer and the covered periscope. The instructions do not say which is which but the picture of the Camp Borden example on page 74 shows the C frame periscope and is labeled "Early". Post war and museum pictures are of course not reliable.

The October 1944 upgrade does seem to describe the periscope with the light metal cover, unfortunately it also describes the replacement of the (plain) silencer. Oh, and I put the notch in the plate for the other exhaust.

Have you also noticed how many pictures are posed so the barrel obscures the periscope?

On the title page of the Osprey New Vanguard (2001 edition) they have discovered a right hand drive example, which is almost identical to the left hand drive one on page 4.

There is a picture on page 7 of the Horst Scheibert book that shows a Hetzer that if it was an American M3 would have the crew up on report for untidiness.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on April 23, 2016, 08:49:15 PM
Right hand drive , must be a proto type vehicle , as the Pzr 38 T chassis it was based on was RHD .  ( and Marder III ) . Really don't see much beyond a couple of jerry cans as on vehicle stowage in any WW2 pictures I've found , and lots of tree braches as cammo . Any that have the long rows of track hung vertically , look to be post war G 13s , as that was SOP for the Swiss vehicles . And of course lots of stowage on the many model kits shown on various sites , we modelers have to use up all those neat plastic and resin detail parts cluttering up our parts box  :) . IMO the angle of the vehicle sides is just too steep to really make it worth trying to keep stowage there . Plus the naked Hetzer was a small vehicle that could slip into the woods easily , I'm thinking with stowage it would get hung up or you'ld just lose it , knocked of by branches . There's a great walk around article on Armorama  , lots of in detail picture of the Hetzer . Plus lots of drawing of  color schemes  and a photo gallery on the Tank Encyclopedia site .
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on April 23, 2016, 11:19:32 PM
The photo on the first page of the Osprey book has just been reversed.  Everything on the vehicle is the opposite of where it should be - even the Notek light. The photo on page 4 is the same photo only the right way around.

I thought yours is meant to be an early version because the muffler on the exhaust was replaced with the Flamm-Vernichter in October 1944.  The perforated stowage box was replaced earlier - Rubicon's instructions are wrong on that point.  I think yours should have the armoured visor and earlier roadwheels, but there were a lot of inconsistencies.

Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 24, 2016, 04:19:20 AM
It was supposed to be a very late War one, hence using the May 1945 article from the Osprey modelling book.

The silencer cover (heat guard) was deleted May-June 1944, so this silencer is valid between then and October.when the short exhaust replaced it and the new periscope was used. So it is a transition model built in October.

Hopefully I will get the next one right ^___^.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on April 24, 2016, 07:51:19 AM
Don't worry about it . German WW2 factories started using new parts as soon  they were delivered , when they ran out , they went back to using the old parts till more new ones arrived . That's why you see A panther hulls with D turrets , and 80 mm nose armored hull  Stugs with 50 mm plus 30 mm bolted driver plates .  I've seen pictures of  Hetzers with a mix of old and new parts , even one with different hole patterns in each of  the idler wheels .  Just make sure you bring a photo to prove it to the judges at a hobby show  ::)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on April 24, 2016, 09:11:57 AM
The silencer cover (heat guard) was deleted May-June 1944, so this silencer is valid between then and October.when the short exhaust replaced it and the new periscope was used. So it is a transition model built in October.

Yeah, you're right.  There was an interim exhaust configuration.  In terms of small production details like this, the Jagdpanzer 38t is almost as confusing as the Sherman.  I built mine as a late version, but I think I used the wrong towing hook configuration.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 27, 2016, 05:48:57 AM
Work in Progress Stuart VI.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RSkQvwOfDcI/Vx_fs-alzLI/AAAAAAAABbU/5kiNi_0G0Rkr_GmAEDqjHwhM31l3TpJ5ACLcB/s1600/m5a1-1.png)
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7NUXqxXLfRQ/Vx_fs4QjuYI/AAAAAAAABbY/cO8Yxvnde1YMUD6hBPG9MEHcpAnomjtpACLcB/s1600/m5a1-2.png)

The turret is the earlier format, as is the hull. There are some areas that need tidying up (visible at this magnification) and stowage needs to be added.

Thanks to Pinky for the research on usage.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on April 27, 2016, 08:37:55 AM
It's such a cool little model...

I found it's necessary to use some filler along the top of the glacis.  And on the turret rear.  Otherwise it went together very nicely.

Are you keeping the sandshields?  Seems appropriate, given the Brits were keen on them.  I look forward to seeing it stowed up with UVS-style stowage.  What colour will you paint it?
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 27, 2016, 04:38:33 PM
It's such a cool little model...
It is, now any idea where I can get the parts of a 1/56 scale 1969 Cadillac Eldorado for the next one? I have a crew for it.

My main problem was getting the gun mantlet in place. This is the second attempt.

The Irish Guards picture from BTIN has the sandshields missing, so I will leave them off. It does leave the rear lower hull looking very exposed.

Colour is an interesting point. Theoretically as a US supplied vehicle it should be Olive Drab, but then my existing M4 Shermans should also be in the same colour. I will probably use PSC British Tank spray which is close to Vallejo Russian Uniform green.

Interestingly the plates in Camouflage and Markings - Armour in Theatre Normandy Campaign: British and Canadian forces Volume 2 from Scale armour Modelling have the British vehicles in a shade of green. Though in the text it does say the British version of Olive Drab was slightly green.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on April 27, 2016, 05:47:15 PM
If you're leaving the sandshields off, then you'd probably want to remove the sections under the rear overhang (as well as the locating tabs under the rear fenders).  The lower section of the front fenders was also normally removed, leaving a rounded shape.

I agree it probably should be US Olive Drab, but I'd paint it the same way as your other British tanks (one imagines the Guards probably repainted their tanks).  British Olive Drab was apparently more of a green colour than US Olive Drab. 
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 27, 2016, 11:51:05 PM
I see your point, it looks like Honey will be wearing her long skirt when she goes out to party.

I think making the required changes on the already assembled model makes messing it up too likely.

Something for the next one, when I have some more reference books.

Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on April 28, 2016, 09:49:49 AM
Yes, it's always painful doing any major work on a finished model.  I recently realised that one of the side armour pieces on my almost-completed Panzer IV was crooked; fixing that removed a lot of paint.  Anyway, you could keep the front half of her skirt, and just remove the back half.  Less work, although you'd need to fill the angled cutaway under the hull sides.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 28, 2016, 04:39:52 PM
The mislabeled picture of an M5 seems to show the rear part of the sand shield still in place.

However, I have fitted the full length shield on the right side and subject to being able to put the upper and lower hulls back together (I had problems with the Crusader and the first BA Panther after putting on the skirts - the second is being undercoated black and then fitting the skirt before spray painting it DunkelGelb) will do the same on the left. There will be some filling required, but better now than when painted ^___^.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 02, 2016, 04:18:29 PM
A bit quiet on the update front. Pictures to follow.

Fitted sand shields (for a later build there is a nice picture in the Fortin book of what they look like after a bit of use).

Undercoated chassis.

Fitted armatures for packs, three on turret, one on front mudguard (the owner is also on latrine duty). Added two Warlord British helmets (with mesh covers) hanging from what I take to be turret lifting rings.

Drilled and glued plastic rod for soft stowage positions and one to position the handle of a bucket off of the rear vertical plate, it will be hidden under a tarp. One is positioned on the right rest corner and so will cover the missing track holder.

I am still working round how to model the spare track. That is not in the first stowage set.

The Allied stowage set contains the missing AA MMG mount, but that can be added later.

The plan is to glue the upper and lower hull together and then fit the soft stowage. The bucket will be the last part I fit.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 13, 2016, 03:36:53 PM
This is a detail from the first Panther from the Warlord "Armoured Fury" box set, mainly because I have used the spare track links from the Rubicon German Stowage set and the vehicle number from the Rubicon Tiger decals.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PygKuBk9E0o/VzV7oGANX_I/AAAAAAAABb4/465cAIJs3IwGafIXGVTuLAXJx5y7JywjwCKgB/s1600/panther2-8.png)

I do need to go back and tidy up the tools, I had not noticed the missing paint on the lower part of the tools on the hull.

Unlike Steve, I did not feel brave enough to try and get the numbers over the track links. I do wonder if I should have fitted the mounting hooks for the missing track links.

More pictures here: http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/warlord-games-panther-a.html

I have one and a half of the links left, so with some careful use of soft stowage I should have enough to add to the Rubicon Panther G.

Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on May 13, 2016, 08:23:59 PM
Looks really good . I built my BA Panther  before Rubicon released their Stowage set , so I used the upper track run for add on armor . Since the wheels are hidden by the side skirts , no one notices . Also did the same with the  BA Panzer IV .  :D
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on May 14, 2016, 12:12:37 PM
Agreed - nice job.  I like Warlord's Panther; I think they depicted the Zimmerit well.  I see from your blog that you also replaced the spare track stowage with Rubicon tracks - good attention to detail!

I've found Vallejo a bit uncooperative for brush painting.  Did you have any issues?  It would be nice not to have to mix all the colours.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 14, 2016, 02:42:42 PM
Thanks.

@Ripley: good idea. Many years ago I built a Cromwell T55 that I fitted with Skirts to look like an illustration from Twilight 2000. I cut one of the road wheels in half, used the two halves on the chassis leaving one as a spare on the turret. I must find it and the M1A2 Giraffe some time.

@Pinky: Vallejo are my preferred paints. I have had no problem brush painting over Citadel Chaos Black spray but the Army Painter and PSC sprays do have a slightly shiny surface that requires two coats, like the Panther above.

I like being able to just pick up a bottle rather than trying to mix a consistent colour. I just wish PSC had matched their sprays to the Vallejo colours (I am still looking for a match to their Soviet tank colour).

On the other side of the hull I doubled up the supplied spare track (after some filling to get the two pieces to mesh) as a lot of photographs show two rows of track (I think the Rubicon kit has two out of the box). On the picture above I cut a Rubicon four in line piece in half and hung it on a rack made from Micro Strip. I probably should have used the long piece as the four link pieces are used on the turrets (hence I now have one and a half pieces for my Rubicon Panther G).
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on May 14, 2016, 08:53:39 PM
If done carefully , the Rubicon spare  track can be cut into single links . I use a Dollar Store nail file to clean out between the joints of the track , tedious work  but the results look good . Do wish Rubicon had made a few  2 piece links like we advised instead of that 9 link piece . Of course you could use it on a Tiger I , not the right style of  track of course , but not many folks will notice  ::) .After spending what seems like days searching the web , I found a use for it .  Long runs of Panther track was used on Churchills as extra armor on the turret   , so I'll use it on the   BA plastic Churchill , when ever they get around to releasing it .
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on May 14, 2016, 10:11:27 PM
After spending what seems like days searching the web , I found a use for it .  Long runs of Panther track was used on Churchills as extra armor on the turret   , so I'll use it on the   BA plastic Churchill , when ever they get around to releasing it .

And on Shermans - both British and American.  Usually wrapped around the turret sides.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 15, 2016, 04:24:40 AM
After spending what seems like days searching the web , I found a use for it .  Long runs of Panther track was used on Churchills as extra armor on the turret   , so I'll use it on the   BA plastic Churchill , when ever they get around to releasing it .

And on Sherman - both British and American.  Usually wrapped around the turret sides.

One of my Shermans has a piece of Panzer IV track on the glacis (from the BA kit). I suspect the Sherman Vs will be be benefiting from the Rubicon Panther and Tiger track while I wait for the Allied stowage set.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on May 15, 2016, 06:55:01 AM
Really hope someone makes an extra full sets of Sherman track . I want to model a Canadian Firefly with Sherman track links completely covering the glacis plate and hull sides . Or else I'll have to cast them in resin ::)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on May 15, 2016, 11:29:13 AM
I know Canadian Firefly you are mean.  I bet that tank had high fuel consumption!  Sounds as though you'll be buying a lot of Allied stowage sets...
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 16, 2016, 09:57:45 PM
I have this image in my head of a Sherman crew waking up one morning and finding their tank up on bricks and all the track missing.

A number of units had a track fetish.

At least with the Allied stowage we will have the wheels to go on the front. Full front track sets might be an opportunity for S and S to do in resin (other manufacturers are available).
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on May 17, 2016, 08:23:44 AM
There would be a variety of track pieces to mold . I would like some of those 3 piece track racks seen on the glacis plate of  British tanks , some short ( 4 -6 piece )  track with the chevrons and teeth  facing up , a large amount of single pieces without teeth  to weld  ( glue  ::) ) onto the hull front and side , and last but not least a few loose track teeth to hang on wire between the head lights . I think for the most part I'm going to have to cast my own .
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: stevepalffy on May 17, 2016, 06:13:20 PM
You guys should probably  move this over to general coments/discusuon......?
As there is bugger all on this thread as far as completed work ?
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 18, 2016, 12:42:27 AM
You guys should probably  move this over to general coments/discusuon......?
As there is bugger all on this thread as far as completed work ?
Well I am famous for my speedy production, I still have some third edition wombles still on their sprues and I am still using original Rogue Trader mark six womble helmets on figures.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 21, 2016, 03:22:56 PM
So, some slight developments on the M5A1 front.

As mentioned I have added the armatures and the fixing posts.You can also see the filling piece I added to the hull where the glacis joins the deck. I had to remove and refit the glacis as it was too high.

A feature of the photographs I have been able to find was two parallel structures on the glacis in front of the driver. That was added using Slaters Micro Strip.

The first tarpaulin has been sculpted on the front right mud guard, with fixing straps aligned with the underlying features. A standard Bolt Action helmet has been "hung" from the turret lifting ring. It should be a proper "Tanker" helmet, but no one makes them (yet - hint).

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2cTI8QbACR8/Vz64mgG_z8I/AAAAAAAABcc/Wm2THbiBdMQ9HU7dY7Vu3LhfJnftrXpFACLcB/s1600/m5a1-5.png)

The driver has his pack slung on the left front mud guard, an incentive not to drive through too many puddles. Another Bolt Action helmet is on the turret lifting ring on this side. Additional helmets will be added to the stowage on the glacis.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BptUBPgRNis/Vz64mqiUPKI/AAAAAAAABcg/nEN4bZpDu0cg-shldLL8aywHBElos5acACKgB/s1600/m5a1-6.png)
The first tarpaulin on the rear of the tank shows the fixing posts almost projecting through it. Additional stowage will be added on top. You can also see the handle of the bucket. Some filling of the sand shields will be needed.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-EBRihqMOZDU/Vz64mqHsrhI/AAAAAAAABcg/M5eGAVqveqAltBVI9t1Wf99wXMF7WD7kgCKgB/s1600/m5a1-7.png)
I am not sure if I will try and scratch build the spare track on the right rear quarter, as you can see, I have added a post for some sculpted stowage on the left.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on May 22, 2016, 04:05:03 AM
Nice work on this little tank . Your green stuff rear tarp looks ace , mine end up looking like old tea towels   ::) .  I've seen a few picture of Stuarts with those strips in front of the driver , think they might be for the drivers wind shield supports , but no conclusive photos found . Any ideas anyone ? Pictures show the glacis plate does extend over the roof plate . Really can't see from your pictures  if you fixed a problem or mucked it up  :o . Been there, done that  :'( Question , can't really tell from your pictures and Rubicon's plans on the forum  , but does the track on the Stuart ( & M4A3 Sherman ) have a tooth at the end of each track shoe or between each track shoe ?
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 22, 2016, 05:14:54 AM
Thanks.

The teeth appear to be on the shoes not between the shoes.

If you place the glacis against the mudguard supports, the glacis leaves a gap at the top (Pinky had a similar issue).
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 22, 2016, 05:24:33 AM
If you place the glacis against the mudguard supports, the glacis leaves a gap at the top (Pinky had a similar issue).

Just found a photograph of an M5 with sand shields, there should be a gap between the supports and the glacis, I have the glacis plate in the wrong place.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on May 22, 2016, 10:09:40 AM
That's too bad . But that's what stowage is for , to cover up the little mistakes ( or in my case the thumb print in the paint ! ) Even with kit instructions , always good to check with photos of the real thing . I've been building kits for over 40 years and still get out my books when building a new kit .   If the teeth are on the end of the track shoes , then Rubicon  messed  up ( as Monogram did on their 1/32 scale kits 40 years ago ) . Stuart and Sherman track have teeth bolted in the middle of two track shoes . It looks like the Allied Stowage set has the correct tooth set up on the spare track sections . I wonder how many guys have missed this little mistake ? Well a dark wash and some mud and no ones the wiser  ;D
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on May 22, 2016, 10:49:24 AM
I do like UVS's stowage!  And I like the way each piece is carefully anchored by a peg. 

The M5A1 glacis has an odd gap along the inner side of the top edge.  I filled it with greenstuff, but it's awkward to get at.  The top of the glacis should sit above the hull roof.

The brackets UVS has added were for the driver's windshield, for when it was folded down.

I didn't notice the tracks are wrong.  I think Tamiya made the same mistake as well.  There are of course no inner guide teeth either, but it's not noticeable.  I wonder if the guide teeth were placed where they are for moulding reasons i.e. so Rubicon could mould the line between each track block?
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on May 22, 2016, 12:48:17 PM
It's probably to do with molding the tracks and wheel sets as one complete piece . The BA Sherman has the teeth in the correct place , but that track is molded as a separate piece from the wheels , and that kit has it's own problems  .  Really never gave much thought before on the complexities of molding plastic kits , it seems the less parts in a kit , the much harder it is to design .
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 22, 2016, 02:59:31 PM
Yup, should have looked harder.

The root of the problem was originally not fitting the sand shields, I had assembled the glacis in the correct location with a slight overhang on the top deck.

When I attached the sand shields (without reference to the instructions) the brackets looked wrong so I moved the glacis down, creating the gap at the top.

None of my books have pictures with sand shields, it was not until I looked on Preserved Tanks that I found the one at the Patton museum.

Ho hum.

Back to the Hetzer...

Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on May 22, 2016, 09:47:51 PM
We've all done this.  I'm sure you can fix it.  Depending on the cement you used you may be able to pull the glacis off and reposition it.

The Tankograd series is a great source of details like this.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 22, 2016, 11:15:08 PM
Depending  on the cement you used you may be able to pull the glacis off and reposition it.
You know those pegs you were admiring....
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 22, 2016, 11:41:25 PM
Question , can't really tell from your pictures and Rubicon's plans on the forum  , but does the track on the Stuart ( & M4A3 Sherman ) have a tooth at the end of each track shoe or between each track shoe ?

Okay, as I was re-grabbing detail shots, here is the track.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-r3GPigkOiUc/V0HSiGXb9zI/AAAAAAAABeA/N2O5VE-FaQM_-yQ2bkh06_yBVfL0dQlwgCLcB/s1600/m5a1-10.png)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 22, 2016, 11:43:22 PM
Here are the before (probably correct):
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Fso2JX6NYUE/V0HPiyBEDwI/AAAAAAAABd0/GToiQxHv0CAQgggR0sqt_tMShXsUbDpMACLcB/s1600/m5a1-8.png)
And after (probably not correct):
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sRKJu-1uSv4/V0HPi6XfwHI/AAAAAAAABdw/Gx8hrqcYZRYqZW-wWwFYhDl7dD9tU2cngCLcB/s1600/m5a1-9.png)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on May 23, 2016, 06:00:40 AM
Yes your 1st hull picture is right . It does look weird though, like somethings missing . It looks like the M5 was designed using  the old style  M3 lower hull and adding an angled glacis which over hung the transmission housing  creating more room in the hull. Never noticed it before , as I never really cared for this tank . Your build has given me some inspiration , so I should get at least one to add to my Canadian or Polish troops . 
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on May 23, 2016, 10:45:42 AM
I agree with Ripley.  Can't you prise the glacis off?  BTW - you also need to re-shape the lifting eyes on the glacis, as they should be rounded.  The brackets for the driver's windshield are "L" shaped, not flat.

Ripley - despite these small detail issues, the Rubicon M5A1 is a lovely kit, and really captures the look of the actual tank.  I've bought 5 of these kits so far; 2 are being built as gun tanks, and the other 3 will be built as the Recce version.  I'm looking forward to covering these with stowage from the Allied Stowage Set.

Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 23, 2016, 05:13:58 PM
Ripley - despite these small detail issues, the Rubicon M5A1 is a lovely kit, and really captures the look of the actual tank.  I've bought 5 of these kits so far; 2 are being built as gun tanks, and the other 3 will be built as the Recce version.  I'm looking forward to covering these with stowage from the Allied Stowage Set.
I agree it is a nice kit, for me there two idiot proofing failures, a more positive location for the glacis plate and the main gun mount, mine is a bit squint. There are two detail issues, the lifting rings and the turret lamp. I am looking at fabricating the rings. When I build a second tank I will use the turret light off of an M4. Two improvements would be separate grousers and the spare track (and the .30 for the earlier turret - so I do not have to wait for the Allied stowage set).

The Hetzer is now undercoated, between the showers yesterday.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on May 23, 2016, 09:29:30 PM
The BA Sherman needs lift rings as well . I think molding them on as bumps  was easier than casting them as separate bits . Each tank has 7 plus towing shackles , more tiny parts taking up sprue space and annoying those who are gamers in the crowd   ::) .  I replaced them using 1.5 / 2 mm Plastruct  rod . It would be nice if the light guards and lights were separate pieces, but again more tiny parts .    I know as modelers we want more detail , but as a gamers , we want quick , low parts count builds that can take handling on the table .  As Rubicon push forward with each new release , they are adding more built in detail and figuring out how to make the small parts look more realistic . I would like to see more options for open hatches though . I agree the molded on grousers don't look right , should have been a separate piece not unlike the turret track pieces on the Tiger kit . Should be easy to remove from the turret  and make some with Plastruct plastic rods .
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 24, 2016, 12:29:07 AM
Not so much an issue with the BA Sherman, at least on the front:

http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/bolt-action-m4-sherman-i-lift-rings.html

I drilled the front ones through with a 1.2mm drill (the right rear one is obscured by tools but the left rear one is pretty easy to do).

Must dust the models ^___^.

I agree that simplicity is the watchword for gamers, I am now building up a collection of BA shackles that I have not fitted (saying that two part shackles are on my next stowage wish list, to attach the loops from the first set to the tank).

The Crusader has the option of wire brush guards, I still have to try and fit one set (having lost the one piece plastic version). The option of one piece and more complicated but accurate separate components is a great idea and is to be commended.
 
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on May 24, 2016, 01:39:43 AM
I replaced all 4 on the hull and 3 on the turret on the BA Sherman . As well the BA Cromwell needed them added to the turret , which I did then promptly covered in cammo netting  ::) . Also added new ones to the Crusader AA , the ones on it are way too small and bump like .  I like to add more 3D style tools , either building them up with green stuff or removing the plastic bit and totally remaking a new part . For example the Crusader AA needed a 5 foot pry bar and shovel on the rear left side stowage bins and my early Tiger needed a long handled square shovel on the nose plate .
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 24, 2016, 02:48:57 AM
I had not noticed the lifting rings on the Cromwell turret. I have just undercoated mine...

The left rear turret lifting ring on at least one of my M4s ended up being removed as I thought it was a mould problem.

The representation of tools etc are variable, the ones on the BA Panther being a bad example.

Something for Rubicon to add to an accessory sprue?
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on May 24, 2016, 04:08:25 AM
There are no lift rings on the Cromwell turret , totally missing  :o  The Crusader turrets have them represented  but very small and just look like bumps . An easy fix ,triangular in shape with a hole , the trick is getting 4 the same size  ;D . I do think we could use a Allies / Axis tool set . I've added some tools to tanks by kit bashing / making my own , but a complete set would be much easier to use .   For example the BA M4 Sherman should have a sledge hammer , large wrench and a engine crank on the rear hull plate . All M4 tanks ( & M4A1 ) with the radial engine had the crank ,its one of the ways to identify that tank version from the rear , a real oversight  IMO .  We could also use the  British style fire extinguishers that were found on Brit Sherman  turrets or rear engine deck .  Some of the German tanks could benefit  by a separate jack , the ones molded on are too small in structure , as well we need  loose  S or C hooks to attach tow cables to panzer III , IV and Stugs  . All in all I think that those of us who are more modelers in this scale would get some if they were released . I know I have 2 or 3 sets in 1/35 scale , even though almost all kits in that scale come with complete tools . You can never have enough choice in detail parts .
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 24, 2016, 04:40:34 AM
That is what I meant - I had not noticed that the photographs and drawings showed turret lifting rings.

A market for photo etch accessories?
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on May 24, 2016, 06:49:34 AM
The " rings" are attached to the big upper bolts on the turret sides , hard to see in some photos . And I think photo etch would be way too small in this scale , I don't even like the 1/35 stuff . Maybe fenders on the Tiger or Stug / Pzr IV side skirts
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 24, 2016, 03:33:23 PM
When you see them, you cannot unsee them ^___^.

I have used photo etch, but not on AFVs, they have tended to be larger pieces.

If this was a Rubicon model I would suggest they put them on an accessory sprue with a locating peg, remove the existing bolt and replace it with a bolt with attached lifting ring (having drilled a locating hole).

The original Leopard 2 always reminded me of the Cromwell.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on May 26, 2016, 11:16:35 AM
I solve the missing lifting ring issue with stowage.  Helmets, usually.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 26, 2016, 03:25:53 PM
I am still thinking of what to do with the lifting rings.

It distracts me while I am painting spots, lots of spots....
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 29, 2016, 03:46:04 PM
Well on the M5A1 front I have removed the two lifting ring "things" from the front glacis and replaced them with 0.7mm brass rod bent to shape (well some shape). I was going to use 1mm, but I was not able to bend it into the required radius with the tools available.

Photographs to follow.

By the way, too many spots?
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-pi8cxT8adE0/V0qc1CqX9GI/AAAAAAAABek/fMoYoFuyzakI1US8aUA6KS0PWkJJWlXnQCLcB/s1600/hetzer1-4.png)
I can imagine at the end of the week the BMM supervisor seeing the finished vehicle and saying "very nice, but what about the rest of the week's production?".
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Ballardian on May 30, 2016, 12:11:15 AM
"By the way, too many spots?" - maybe a few but It's hard to say  - once the colours have been muted a little (filters, weathering etc) the effect will be less strident. Certainly most of the images I've found of models tend to have fewer, but pictures of actual period vehicles are ofter not very helpful, being faded, over/under-exposed or damaged in some way - the clear pictres I've found often turn out to be re-enacters atrfully aged (as is probably the case with this one).

(http://s33.postimg.org/srgxy1rx7/4c6488b53fad6032980b1f76c6b57b6b.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/srgxy1rx7/)


Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 31, 2016, 02:50:36 PM
So painting over the spots is very time consuming, if the paint is too thick I get structures on the surface, if it is too thin it does not cover.

Phase one picture:
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/--i8-e1SuEfc/V00q0fsntCI/AAAAAAAABe0/8mLDVxdnroMjIXCYyf8pGv2zSYGOyeFCgCLcB/s1600/hetzer1-5.png)

It needs another couple of layers before I start weathering etc.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on May 31, 2016, 03:27:16 PM
Back to the M5A1.

I removed the moulded on "handrail" lifting rings and drilled two holes each. The holes were 1mm, but I was unable to bend the 1mm brass rod so used 0.7mm rod.

Once fitted, I applied the liquid poly to the ring and allowed it to flow down to the glacis. It appears to have filled the holes, but also one of the rings.It might need reaming out a bit.

Left side.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Pzmt_cAUBAw/V00uAG69pfI/AAAAAAAABfI/8n5Lx3LhLFU4HLA1LElcxSn_9NtyEZboQCLcB/s1600/m5a1-11.png)

Right side.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xWGdZUaNNS0/V00t_0fgeuI/AAAAAAAABfA/ljoOMgJRcWkUkzQVFuRWd7z1NrX0IsJ2wCLcB/s1600/m5a1-12.png)

In detail.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3IOoRo6-ib8/V00uAAidKQI/AAAAAAAABfE/939eNlNQEecEVezhst1WxPjsOnpsfK2YQCLcB/s1600/m5a1-13.png)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on May 31, 2016, 08:40:36 PM
Looking good smurf . A easier item to use would be a paper clip , they come in a couple of sizes / diameters and are easy to bend and cut , plus you get about a 100 in a box for very little $ . Also good for hand rails on Russian tanks and tarp supports on trucks . Talk about old school model building  :)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on June 01, 2016, 11:33:34 PM
The Jagdpanzer 38t - I think the revised dots look much better.  I find there's been a bit of adjustment to this scale if you're used to 1/72 and 1/35.  My first camo attempt was definitely overscale.

The M5A1 - I really like the stowage; it looks very 'British'.  Are you going to fix the addition to the top edge of the glacis?
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 02, 2016, 03:54:13 PM
@Ripley: Thanks. I had not thought of paper clips, probably afraid of Audits ^____^.

I picked up a Bill Bedford 7mm scale handrail jig a while back. It is an etched sheet with holes to allow you to bend 0.7mm wire accurately to length. I will dig it out. I used it on the wip T34/85. I am sure there is a quarter scale equivalent.

@Pinky: the nearest I have come to painting ambush pattern was on some Ground Zero Games 25mm NSL power armour, I suspect that it why the JgPnzr 38 was so so dotty^___.^.

I might use some more microstrip to extend the glacis, I need to look at the original photographs to see if that will work.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 17, 2016, 01:40:52 AM
Work continues at a glacial rate.

I have built up the glacis (I placed the glacis too low).
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7CWIF3Zrgu4/V2LNGI1aOaI/AAAAAAAABgg/TKAbDu1HgIEVsNXvC6zjRgrPyvKjhFHDwCLcB/s1600/m5a1-14.png)
I used microstrip to build up the raised glacis top.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WNRKr2_v4MQ/V2LNGE_vnKI/AAAAAAAABgk/WOybwnFZlVUW9EmCZZUVen2El_Oytz_bACLcB/s1600/m5a1-15.png)
I have also added some additional stowage.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-v2VqAHWmjtI/V2LNXGne0OI/AAAAAAAABgw/07SjNLxieA4rBRr0eepXUo_PeAVtAGuOQCLcB/s1600/m5a1-16.png)
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6ncZz9i_Wa0/V2LNXNBQRRI/AAAAAAAABgs/j7i6h1tkYCE3G4Z5o358DJTIqM_ePxBaACLcB/s1600/m5a1-17.png)
I have some basing to do, so I will probably try to smooth out the transition with some of the Milliput (not Lilliput).
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 17, 2016, 01:48:40 AM
And here is part of the infantry support for the Panzer III.

Perry Miniatures Africa Korp.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UOvjpz_WjEs/V2LPcBav4lI/AAAAAAAABhM/zwJHBQ7wrpMn08-VdS8gAjLyf0ADEldPgCLcB/s1600/dak4.png)

A slight diversion from the ongoing M5 and jagdpanzer 38(T).
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on June 17, 2016, 08:02:06 AM
Great work on your M5 . The stowage looks fantastic . My 2 part green stuff items still look like cr@p !  ::)  I've found the liquid GS from GW works really good on evening out joints , and sands well. And your AK trooper looks fantastic
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 17, 2016, 03:50:26 PM
Thanks.

When I started I found the main difficulty was holding the item without it distorting and getting fingerprints all over it. I then remembered a documentary on facial reconstruction (in the days before non steam powered computers) where the artist/anthropologist used pegs to provide depth information (and an anchor).

I would suggest"making" a practice tool, comprising a piece of 2 X 3cm wood about 10cm long (dimensions not really important just handy to hold), wrap it in cling film and drill two holes to suit either rod or paper clip.

The greenstuff should not stick to the clingfilm so you can remove it, if you like it, you can use it, if not you can try again.

I use Evergreen plastic rod.

I find that it is best to make one stowage item at a time,  a bed roll is about 4 - 5mm of greenstuff strip. New greenstuff is a lot more pliable and sticky (the first tanks used some I bought along with the GW fellowship Of The Ring game, that was hard work).
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on August 01, 2016, 12:50:48 AM
It is back, and ready for painting...
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TSHgaZklWp8/V54qZaKyUaI/AAAAAAAABiI/aZ-C4uA7eDQA2yvNHbAWMNynl4PBaaSJgCLcB/s1600/m5a1-18.png)
I added a spare track holder on the rear right (it should project out further, I doubt you could fit in the spare track, but if I made it too prominent it might break in use).
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-te-Qi0B4h4o/V54qZoHSm1I/AAAAAAAABiQ/Rwp0PjIrU-og33X9qdyyMXIw9POz5dQmQCLcB/s1600/m5a1-19.png)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AiQoq6cfj9U/V54qZo-Z5nI/AAAAAAAABiM/kDkzDk2UUeYodl4vUWslJR_jqP_LMrSdgCLcB/s1600/m5a1-20.png)
I covered the one on the left with a sack hanging from the lift ring.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3ehmaO98Vdk/V54qZ_zCQXI/AAAAAAAABiU/IU-hNAIfKnM6z9tKfv7k89YfVYL4BamHwCLcB/s1600/m5a1-21.png)
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7I_aUniG7NA/V54qZ3Oa4CI/AAAAAAAABiY/VWbzL5mN4FIXqvjleMdfNLK8f0rdPr5LACLcB/s1600/m5a1-22.png)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AfFCmNVKlwI/V54qZ6uJkWI/AAAAAAAABic/e-n0wb2QBOg2fD8Y_yLbvQ5gVqwbjtkjgCLcB/s1600/m5a1-23.png)
It is currently undercoated and has had its first top coat.

So at this rate it might be finished by Christmas...
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on August 05, 2016, 03:01:22 PM
Not actually an update (I progress slowly) but a link with some walk rounds and photographs.

http://www.primeportal.net/tanks/m5a1_stuart.htm

Of course non period photographs have to be viewed as such.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on August 05, 2016, 04:31:08 PM
Once again, you really know how to sculpt soft stowage.  This looks very authentic.  How about some hessian as well?  It's a very 'British' feature (and would also mean you could hide the upper edge of the glacis)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on August 06, 2016, 04:45:12 PM
Thanks for the comments.

I did model hessian camouflage nets on a Roco Kanone many years ago, I am not sure where it is now. The Sherman Vs may well get some modelled.

Here is a test photograph of the tank block painted.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ok3oZnBRF2g/V6WgvQhmGxI/AAAAAAAABis/5EmY7H8dYEY4gV0x39_1m7d_08JOkkELACLcB/s1600/m5a1partpaint.png)
I do not think the crease in the glacis is too noticeable. I do need to fill a gap in the turret join and the grousers need some tidying up.

I did notice on the previous link a detail picture of the driver's windscreen device.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Ballardian on August 06, 2016, 08:50:11 PM
Looking good, I'm with Pinky with regards to your sculpting of soft stowage - it's excellent!
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on August 06, 2016, 10:43:08 PM
The colour looks good.  What is it?
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on August 07, 2016, 02:21:30 AM
Thanks.

The base colour is PSC British Tank spray over Citadel Chaos Black spray. It is almost but not quite the same as Vallejo Russian Uniform green.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on August 13, 2016, 04:19:41 PM
Still have some weathering to complete on the M5A1 (my blog highlights the current woes) but here are two pictures of the model that are not too bad:

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dWtfERaI4Ac/V67VZ-4bfoI/AAAAAAAABjE/5-KiNG3-yVAZwc30tiVyfopFR8J7qvh9QCLcB/s1600/m5a1-26.png)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QhznEfErggk/V67VaEVhf0I/AAAAAAAABjI/pIFKfO8ZqzQs0BUhOkKQZoVYZU4xpNWMQCLcB/s1600/m5a1-27.png)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on August 15, 2016, 03:12:48 PM
Panther G work in progress.

Originally this was going to be painted up like Cuckoo (not as Cuckoo as it was covered with zimmerit) but for various reasons it is going to be painted as a German vehicle.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Qh0G4Or1mHk/V7Fo51cGq-I/AAAAAAAABjs/Hljh637kop4KZjYk4xupmGAZ3G7rdHFVgCLcB/s320/panther-g-1.png)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on August 15, 2016, 03:16:17 PM
The M5A1 is as complete as it gets.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-u_7eX3PhSzw/V7FqHVsHbQI/AAAAAAAABkE/Uk1qy1awrGoOH_G5mF1WjB6T9tf74LynwCLcB/s320/m5a1-29.png)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PVDFcZQkrGc/V7FqHSPxBoI/AAAAAAAABkA/WgVj8MY52ekE28wIONHNs_1y7Xf6f3ymgCLcB/s320/m5a1-31.png)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-aIoY9yHm2bA/V7FqHgED4hI/AAAAAAAABkM/pii3h-QG3JYxfQPzm2qJQGsIF8l78PGDACLcB/s320/m5a1-32.png)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-S2SOsfM01O4/V7FqHmdPxUI/AAAAAAAABkQ/F0wgFI6KibgOxl8AsTkCTkd7DKS_n94iACLcB/s320/m5a1-33.png)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-peryER8VbZ4/V7FqH63tJJI/AAAAAAAABkU/BtEU8kU1z7k00hpWcA4LayBU48QoibpQACLcB/s320/m5a1-34.png)

And a comparison with the Sherman (they are the same colour, but the M5A1 is grubbier).

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-sl_UNwamQcs/V7FqMkvu7dI/AAAAAAAABkY/JzA3_Ejz7qwixie_oM9n6djgLTM8dSk_gCLcB/s320/m4m5a1-2.png)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on November 25, 2016, 05:05:37 PM
I make haste slowly on other projects.

The German Stowage set continues to find use on other vehicles, a Weird War Puma (using a PSC Panther cupola as an IR searchlight) with Rubicon fuel drum and pump and the Stug III with crate and drum (and previously seen with added track pieces).

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2Vv-feRtQPs/WDTLmsqAIbI/AAAAAAAABnk/Uu29zk9-B_oVS7h6q92eataFFmBosmU3gCEw/s1600/puma-3.png)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lrYBTMwMjrg/WDTKBYryrRI/AAAAAAAABnQ/HVmh3YuJ-NYMEUu7jAaaE_dPEhVMQObDACLcB/s1600/stugiii-5.png)

The wheels on the Puma will be painted separately, hence why only the outer ones are pushed on the axles.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on November 29, 2016, 06:55:09 AM
This is a Supply Counter for The Walking Dead game, made using part A28 from the Allied Stowage set..
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-g-R40wzwPds/WDyy14ytnkI/AAAAAAAABoE/nZ4q1OBdjzMUK2YR8gobPXt3WyA9vRWqwCLcB/s1600/supplycounter1-1.png)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-y-8XXiUA16Q/WDyy1_3s6nI/AAAAAAAABoI/ujmLJFN269wpEcMXEvWF83IRxR3VGUVQQCLcB/s1600/supplycounter1-3.png)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4oWMvQNN5hE/WDyy2YEt81I/AAAAAAAABoM/023W8ttZ-4g36L2PN2S9Vxlf1jMKGNp9QCLcB/s1600/supplycounter1-4.png)

The number is from the original M4A3 decal set.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on November 29, 2016, 09:48:54 AM
Nice use of the hessian-covered crates!  The stowage sets can be used to create really attractive objectives.  I have a couple of artfully arranged piles of crates and a big group of oil barrels.

I find attaching oil barrels to smaller vehicles like armoured cars a bit unconvincing.  They sometimes appear on the engine decks of tanks, but that's about it.  But if your Weird War vehicles are meant to be self-sufficient survivors (I'm not familiar with the game fluff), then it's fine.  I like the StuG - I think you could add even more of your wonderful soft stowage to it.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on November 29, 2016, 05:33:01 PM
Thanks.

If I had thought a bit more on it, I would have placed the drum on the rear instead of the spare wheel as on the side would make it unstable.

The idea for the vehicle was as part of a long range reconnaissance strike team operating behind the Western Allied lines (Allied air superiority is not a feature of Konflikt'47). Rubicon 251 and 250 models will provide transport for infantry.  They need to be fairly self sufficient, hence the fuel drums.

The setting is fine (for a "diesel-punk" setting) at the tactical level, strategically not so much as there would still be the same resource shortages that occurred in reality.

The Stug is still work in progress, I do worry about covering ventilation etc.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on November 30, 2016, 09:57:59 AM
The idea for the vehicle was as part of a long range reconnaissance strike team operating behind the Western Allied lines (Allied air superiority is not a feature of Konflikt'47). Rubicon 251 and 250 models will provide transport for infantry.  They need to be fairly self sufficient, hence the fuel drums.

Maybe add some more prominent brackets etc for the stowage?  That would sell the idea that it's kitted out for long range operations.  And if you strapped a barrel on each side, perhaps with some fuel leads, it would look like more deliberate, if you know what I mean.

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The Stug is still work in progress, I do worry about covering ventilation etc.

StuG crews seem to have been happy to cover the engine deck in stowage, regardless of the engine deck vents.  I've noticed that US tank crews also seem to have placed stowage over engine deck ventilation.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on November 30, 2016, 11:44:49 PM
A full 50 gallon /200 litre fuel drum weights 250 - 300 pounds  so strong tie downs ( chains ) would be needed , as well as a transfer pump because you wouldn't want to lift the drum on to the vehicle when full  :o .
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on December 01, 2016, 02:01:47 AM
A full 50 gallon /200 litre fuel drum weights 250 - 300 pounds  so strong tie downs ( chains ) would be needed , as well as a transfer pump because you wouldn't want to lift the drum on to the vehicle when full  :o .
Thanks

That is going to stress the suspension. I will see if I can remove the storage compartment on the right mudguards and add another drum for balance.

There is a Rubicon pump on the engine deck behind the drum, and a hose (solder) on the deck on the other side.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on December 02, 2016, 03:34:38 AM
So, I have removed the box and sanded the surface smooth. I need to fill the holes with milliput before fixing the second drum on the right side.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5-ppu-XESJA/WEB3tOUbS7I/AAAAAAAABow/qTfErBfW-Uk16GyyI63937zpEXf64WPggCLcB/s1600/puma-8.png)

The second drum is ready for fixing and then the fuel pipe can be replaced on the deck.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: airborne on December 03, 2016, 04:09:15 AM
Nice modelling your work never fails to impress My wife and I . Like yourself  I`m using the sets for Project Z ,I returned my Walking Dead K.S. brilliant sculpts but when they arrived the cars, barracades , supply cashes and some figures were scaled all over the place. Eileen and myself have 99% of our figures in 1/56th When standing next to our collection it was land of the gaints. Rubicon have given me the idea of a Military Conservation group for Zombie/ Survival games and the W.G.F Americans and Germans mix well with the Survivors, I see you use a Crooked Dice figure as your scale ref . Have you any idea how there range would work with our collection. Thank You Geoff and Eileen Maybury. Alias Airborne and Gingernut.   
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on December 03, 2016, 04:50:34 AM
Thanks

I have some scale comparisons on my blog:
Warlord Russian and US (Project Z weapons)
http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/post-war-bolt-action-miniatures.html

Walking Dead and Project Z
http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/walking-dead-all-out-war-game.html

Project Z
http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/apocalypse-survivors.html

Empress
http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/empress-miniatures-and-crooked-dice.html

Hasslefree and Crooked Dice
http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/some-assembly-required-agents.html

Spectre SUV
http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/salute-2016.html


http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/dorothy-thought-she-was-not-in-kansas.html

May Killen and Zombie Vixens
http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/girl-power.html

Studio Miniatures
http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/new-zombies-2.html

Walking Dead Vehicles
http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/walking-dead-all-out-war-scenery.html

Apologies to Rubicon for not particularly relevant items.

There are scale comparisons for Rubicon and Warlord vehicles on the blog.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: airborne on December 05, 2016, 04:00:13 AM
Thank you for the photos , god you would have saved us £70 ( the total of our returned Walking dead) if we had seen these before .These are just what you need before making purchases. Love to have a Zombie info swap would you like our e-mail address.  Thank you Rubicon for allowing two modellers  to get the most from our collections.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Rubicon Models on December 05, 2016, 12:01:59 PM
Thank you Rubicon for allowing two modellers to get the most from our collections.

We are modellers ourselves, exchange of ideas and topics are not a major issue with this forum.  ;)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on December 25, 2016, 05:58:07 PM
Cleaned up damaged area on the mudguard and added the second fuel drum (the white bits are supposedly where the driver and gunner IR vision gear would be mounted).
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Du6JCzqJJO4/WFxYesKTdrI/AAAAAAAABsI/3dwYUK8VqLUwnUbg3pr0BMm9A-w5niXfACLcB/s1600/puma-11.png).

The Tankograd Volks Armee T34 book should inspire me to finish the Rubicon T34.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Captain Blood on December 26, 2016, 04:28:30 PM
Great work with the Green Stuff  8)

Green Stuff 'soft stowage' - tarps etc - looks a great deal better than plastic kit items which always look too stiff and never seems to sit quite right.
I've just invested in the two Rubicon Models stowage sets (Allied and German) and they're packed with many and various useful parts. But some of the rolled up items just look a bit too 'sharp' somehow, to convincingly represent rolled up heavy fabrics. (Other than that - brilliant kits though).
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on December 26, 2016, 04:55:07 PM
Thanks.

The "hard" items from the storage set are very useful, I have not use the soft items from either set, though they may be used on top of greenstuff stowage (there are similar smokes in he Osprey M4 new M3/5 modelling books.

There are a number of items on my stowage wish list, water bottles (I used some Wargames Factory water bottles on the Panzer III) and British packs and tanker helmets.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on December 27, 2016, 10:34:05 AM
I'm very envious of UVS's soft stowage sculpting skills.  Having mastered the art, he can drape realistic looking stowage anywhere.  I am sticking with the 1/48 Tamiya stuff, which I think looks better than Rubicon's (sorry Rubicon!).  If you push it together, it looks pretty good, and the overscale appearance goes with the proportions of the figures.

(https://s30.postimg.org/prnkf7r6l/IMG_20161227_1041537.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/prnkf7r6l/)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on January 02, 2017, 04:55:15 PM
Nice model Pinky. What track have you round the turret?

The first Sherman V is assembled and is being fitted with stowage (more detail and review on blog) but I am using the Rubicon Allied Stowage set to supply the racked spare links.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DygYBKuyHMU/WGdy5_U06QI/AAAAAAAABtk/2U6IzJmtQ9YgUFHuM3Zapr7kKSmeOBnhACEw/s1600/m4a4-sparetrack1.png)

As you can see the supplied links are rather large and will not fit in the standard location (the racks are centre and in front of the driver's hood). I cut the Rubicon six link track in half to make the required two sets of three (for further models I would hope to make a better job).

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mzWKUlzUy6s/WGdy5faPkmI/AAAAAAAABtk/clFBez0_ErwtkFBSlMBsGGYYu-NRHja6wCEw/s1600/m4a4-sparetrack2.png)

As you can see, even with the Rubicon pieces it is a tight fit.

Other stowage will cover the ratty bits on the track links.

Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on January 03, 2017, 09:47:38 AM
Nice model Pinky. What track have you found the turret?

It's the Panther track from the Rubicon stowage set.  I've only found one photo of an ETO US Army Sherman with tracks welded to the turret (the British did it more often), but I thought it looked good.

I have the Sherman V kit.  I didn't realise that the spare tracks don't fit.  One problem with using Rubicon tracks is that they are noticeably different to the kit tracks.  Would it be better to replicate the brackets as well? 
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on January 03, 2017, 12:48:54 PM
Pinky , all the early / narrow  ( not E8) Sherman track pads were interchangable , you can find pictures of plain rubber block , rubber with chevron ( the arrow V ) and even some steel types all mounted  on the same tank as well as being used as spares  . The 3 pad bracket can mount vertically or horizontally on the glacis plate  , check a few photos of Brit or Canadian units , the Yanks never used it as it was a Brit piece of kit ( now someone will find a photo of a Yank Sherman with this mounted , lol ) . Remember , it was the teeth at the end of track that held it together , when mounted flat in the rack the pad chevrons could face either direction , again check photos  . Judging from your picture of the track rack , the Warlord track looks to be the all metal pad ( thin metal chevron  ) and the Rubicon , the rubber pad with the large rubber chevron  . There were 12 styles of narrow track ( 3 styles of rubber , 5 steel with metal chevron and 4 with metal 3 cleat pads ) Only the flat rubber type used the groucers , those things mounted on the side of the M-10 and the turret of the  M-5 Stuarts , if the  tank had steel track it didn't even mount the groucers in the rack , thus saving weight , the flat rubber tracked Shermans kept the groucers in a compartment under those little air scoops on the rear engine deck
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on January 03, 2017, 02:08:45 PM
Pinky , all the early / narrow  ( not E8) Sherman track pads were interchangable...

I know, Ripley - but the Rubicon spare tracks don't match the tracks on the tank itself.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on January 03, 2017, 05:42:07 PM
Thanks for the comments.
Pinky , all the early / narrow  ( not E8) Sherman track pads were interchangable...
I know, Ripley - but the Rubicon spare tracks don't match the tracks on the tank itself.

I think Ripley's point is that you could find mixed track pads on the same track run, hence also on the spare racks.

In my defence I did not notice the difference between the track run and the Rubicon track, though the supplied racked track looks different as well.

I have added the racks (splitting microstrip was entertaining).

Using the supplied spare track would work horizontally.

Observation is obviously not my forte, I also only spotted the W^D on the Allied jerry can yesterday even after the original discussion on the stowage thread.

Other spare track arrangements are available, including sets with the teeth, thought that requires the removal of the extraction marks on the inside of the moulding.

Hard stowage on the glacis is is complete, I will post some pictures later. Now to decide what to add on the engine deck.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on January 03, 2017, 10:53:41 PM
I hear you about being observant , I've had some Squadron / Signal books for 30 plus years and every once in a while , a whole new detail will jump out at me . Why have I never noticed that before ! Now I have to fix my model kit  ... :o   I find books are better than the internet , as you can flip back and forth between pages and sometimes find different pictures ( Pathe , Life Magazine or German Signal magazine ) of the same vehicle taken from a different angle   or later on in the battle .
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on January 04, 2017, 02:41:24 AM
Well, I have some good news on the old Sherman I front, the IWM Sherman V and the British Tanks in Normandy book have squadron markers on second Armoured Battalion vehicles..

I do like books as a resource, hence my growing collection.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on January 04, 2017, 04:34:03 PM
Just to prove it is not just the stowage sets, here is the first work in progress shots of the Katyusha.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KxjnKaQHSZ0/WGyvH319BwI/AAAAAAAABuI/T-grCEBfV18OCsuv7fk4KqHhHuyHMR4PACLcB/s1600/studebaker1.png)
Comparison shot with an Empress Technical.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-h-gy51tvuGo/WGyvHy-scVI/AAAAAAAABuE/rH9Cc7optp4l06u4IRXo8d93EMTOyKKuwCLcB/s1600/studebaker-compare1.png)

In another thread Pinky mentioned having difficulty joining Rubicon parts to Warlord parts, I had not experienced that, however the load bed and sides of this kit behaved more like the strange ABS type plastic Mongoose used on their Starship Troopers figures. I had a great deal of difficulty obtaining a bond between the parts (I had to roughen the narrow part of the join and apply liquid poly three or more times - there was also much picking the bits off the floor).

The rest of the kit has gone together well, though I have still to start on the actual launcher.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on January 04, 2017, 04:39:34 PM
Details of the glacis stowage on the Sherman V.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8rHGbXCOknI/WGytyIEJM3I/AAAAAAAABt0/j2MYCYCbvOgmV6cpr91dNFLjdNtEPCWQwCLcB/s1600/m4a4-detail2.png)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1p3fhbiwWgg/WGytyDUsSTI/AAAAAAAABt4/WmMYOBQtYMMuBeFsLg9LhOHIVAcPIlDYwCLcB/s1600/m4a4-detail1.png)

I have added the rack to hold the spare track.

I love the detail on the jerry can.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on January 04, 2017, 09:09:29 PM
In another thread Pinky mentioned having difficulty joining Rubicon parts to Warlord parts, I had not experienced that, however the load bed and sides of this kit behaved more like the strange ABS type plastic Mongoose used on their Starship Troopers figures. I had a great deal of difficulty obtaining a bond between the parts (I had to roughen the narrow part of the join and apply liquid poly three or more times - there was also much picking the bits off the floor).

I still can't get Warlord and Rubicon plastics to bond properly, using liquid cement.  The pieces come apart under pressure.  I use superglue, which is a bit annoying as it has a tendency to flow into any recessed detail nearby.

The re-jigged stowage on the Sherman looks very good.  Again, it captures the look of British stowage.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on January 04, 2017, 11:54:54 PM
The initial photograph was to show the size of the track rack.

The engine deck will take some time to populate (which is where the tools on my wish list would be useful).

The soft plastic is easy to carve, I have removed the tools from the deck and replaced them with one of the German crates.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Rubicon Models on January 05, 2017, 12:12:35 AM
I still can't get Warlord and Rubicon plastics to bond properly, using liquid cement.  The pieces come apart under pressure.  I use superglue, which is a bit annoying as it has a tendency to flow into any recessed detail nearby.

Try Plastic Magic from Deluxe Materials, great stuff!  Think FA stock them too!
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on January 05, 2017, 12:29:26 AM
Try Plastic Magic from Deluxe Materials, great stuff!  Think FA stock them too!

"FA"? Something to do with kicking a pigs bladder about?

^___^
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on January 05, 2017, 05:40:23 AM
I don't have the Sherman V , yet , but I did build the BA M4 . Your right , the on vehicle tools are way too flat looking , so I replaced some with Plastruct plastic round rod at least for the wooden handles . I used 1.3 or 1.5 mm rod for the handle and cut slices of 2mm rod as the tie downs / tool strapping . Also made that large track wrench , sledge hammer and the engine crank which the kit was missing . Also added a crank to the rear of my Stug III  , as well a long handled shovel to the nose of my early Tiger I .  We really do need a full set of scale US/ Brit ( shovels are different ) and German vehicle tool sets , most molded on stuff is terrible IMO . And don't even get me started on the jacks on BA's Panzer IVs . I've had to rebuild 6 so far  ::)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on January 06, 2017, 02:24:09 AM
More pictures of the work in progress Studebaker kit.
BM-13 mode.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gNNHOxLPNxU/WG6HyEKDg5I/AAAAAAAABuc/CUxyh4iKcKIGGjX5jefe2u5wH_0l1MulQCLcB/s320/studebaker3.png)

The only part shared between the cargo and MRL version is the spare wheel. I used the kit version on the MRL build.

The cargo build used one of the spare wheels from the Allied stowage set. I used two pieces of 0.30" square rod to raise the wheel.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3gNzW_2LHQA/WG6H_OnMfgI/AAAAAAAABuo/aAs842hB1Cg_5xZxit9pssjM8oYsn6iKACEw/s320/studebaker-detail3.png)

And assembled.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-m-pN7--kgC0/WG6Hx1MM6TI/AAAAAAAABuo/BFrNKdTwTYMdmK2SHacvxlt6f4hVycCFACEw/s320/studebaker5.png)

I have some other stowage to add to the model (those front mudguards are just crying out for some tools and other stowage).

I have some suitable square section rod that should make some rocket boxes.

Once it warms up a bit I will undercoat it.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on January 07, 2017, 10:08:23 PM
Red Army Studebakers don't seem to have carried much stowage.  The only thing they seemed to have carried on the front mudguard is soldiers....

(https://s30.postimg.org/h1id6o7gt/IMG_0004.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/h1id6o7gt/)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on January 07, 2017, 10:40:41 PM
Red Army Studebakers don't seem to have carried much stowage, apart from some jerrycans stashed on the bumper.  The only thing they seemed to have carried on the front mudguards is soldiers....

(https://s30.postimg.org/h1id6o7gt/IMG_0004.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/h1id6o7gt/)

And very uncomfortable they look too...

I think the Studebaker book has the crew desperately clinging on (it might be the Osprey MRL book).

Pioneer tools live on the rear chassis extension, but that would interfere with the cargo body.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on January 07, 2017, 11:25:28 PM
Of course there's no room in the truck box , its full of ammo for the 76mm gun their towing  ;D
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on January 08, 2017, 12:33:24 PM
If that's the case, this gun has a very large crew!
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on January 08, 2017, 04:58:24 PM
If that's the case, this gun has a very large crew!

It is for Bolt Action, so the Soviets get one free squad.

^___^
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on January 08, 2017, 06:46:07 PM
Not WW2 but interesting use of greenstuff.

http://www.thecommguild.com/roller/thecommguild/entry/modeling-tutorial-epirian-contractor-gas

http://www.thecommguild.com/roller/thecommguild/entry/all-your-base-tutorial-part1

For those in the UK, The Works (suppliers of cheap books, hobby supplies and tat) often have the clay or colour shapers very cheap (they look like paintbrushes with solid silicon for the brush bit).
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on January 09, 2017, 12:01:44 AM
Very cool smurf , I need fern type leaves for some jungle bases for my Japanese , I'll give this method a try . It's almost fool proof so it should work for me  ;D
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on January 09, 2017, 12:47:33 AM
A visit to The Works this morning supplied me with these:
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-b1H56REneUY/WHJibI6cIXI/AAAAAAAABvQ/6C8e60dFzGENXl6eLNw6oZGBTFd0gHweQCLcB/s1600/colourdetailers.png)

I have not used them yet, the Sherman work was last night.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on January 09, 2017, 12:53:37 AM
More work on the Sherman V.

Rubicon's Allied Stowage set supplied the British Toolbox on the left side, two crates from the German set were added to the right side and the rear of the engine deck. The rear crate had mounting clips added using microstrip.
Then I added the pegs for soft stowage and a couple of pieces of square section plastruct tube.

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QX08jRUtK8s/WHJm0wdzwHI/AAAAAAAABvc/TZjdwvZ1YZEZJVzGCcB5rAEOaI99slOtQCLcB/s1600/m4a4-1-6.png)

The soft stowage on the engine decks was completed in three bits (to allow the previous pieces to set).

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-quOGk5bLiv8/WHJm7Wtut0I/AAAAAAAABvw/bHDfd-Be-KwmmpiVzxMgAh3FhhrFHkf7gCLcB/s1600/m4a4-1-7.png)

Rear view.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fXUovPQZLZQ/WHJm7QTHFyI/AAAAAAAABvs/NMbZAICighEavDjW0Qjj4EttBcwVN0bWgCLcB/s1600/m4a4-1-8.png)

Of note when assembling this kit, the instructions are incorrect when it comes to the fire extinguishers, the tube part faces toward the rear, check the photographs, the example in the IWM has the brackets but no extinguisher.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on January 09, 2017, 02:06:43 AM
Also seen pictures of them mounted vertically behind the side lift rings on the turret .  Probably moved there as it might be hard to grab from the rear deck when your gears on fire ! 
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on January 09, 2017, 02:13:34 AM
The Dennis Oliver book has a drawing with them on the radio box on the bustle.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on January 09, 2017, 09:52:40 AM
It's too late now, but I would have put the metal stowage box on the rear deck, not on the side.  It's more likely they'd weld a box to that panel.  Now it's there, I'd suggest a horizontal retaining strip between the 2 brackets.

Good work on the soft stowage.  I'd suggest another layer piled up towards the rear.     

Did you have trouble cleaning up the appliqué armour panels on the sides?  As they are moulded on, the sides of the panels aren't vertical, and fixing that is a pain.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on January 16, 2017, 07:17:22 PM
Ho hum, I had not noticed the appliqué Armour issue.

It is now undercoated and base coated, there was a gap in the rubbish weather (unfortunately before I read your post) so the stowage is as was.

The next one will have more stowage (and horizontal spare track with teeth).

I do plan to get a separate Sherman VC to be called Hercules, I will need another German stowage set.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on January 16, 2017, 10:03:29 PM
I found photos in the Dennis Oliver book of British Sherman's with large wooden boxes fixed to the rear, so ignore my earlier comment!

I am still fixing the appliqué armour on mine.  With each adjustment, the plates get marginally smaller...the commander's hatch is pretty bad too - I might replace it with the hatch from the forthcoming Rubicon M4A3 kit (as I plan to build mine as M4A3E8s).
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on January 16, 2017, 10:40:20 PM
The Dennis Oliver book did inspire the stowage.

I am ignoring the appliqué shape on this one, I might have a go on the other one.

On the Churchill I glued the two halves of the hatches to some plastic strip before glueing them to the turret.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on January 17, 2017, 06:11:58 PM
I have not yet used the sculpting tools on any stowage, but have found them useful to get greenstuff to stick to the model and not my fingers.

I have used it on some Frostgrave plastic barbarians, have a look at my blog:
http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/frostgrave-barbarians-first-build.html
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on January 24, 2017, 06:52:49 AM
Making haste slowly.

After adding a bunch of soft stowage to the Churchill, I decided to put some camouflage on the Rubicon Panther G.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JJFTX0iflL8/WIaGOBeJUdI/AAAAAAAABy0/3BZrfnj6VA0rqlJI3deApvQZfc28vAgkgCEw/s1600/panther-g-3.png)

Very broad outline. The stripes are Citadel Mournfang Brown (applied with a very broad brush).

Inspired by the Panther G at the Tank Museum.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-y6e2HSgeh1A/WIaGfTFa9eI/AAAAAAAABzA/c8MjOQkMB_gLXQ71ndlO-w5xW9sFuEdQgCEw/s640/IMG_5187.JPG)

Will this be finished by the end of the year?
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on January 24, 2017, 11:26:57 AM
Are you going to add green bands as well? 
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on January 24, 2017, 05:51:51 PM
Are you going to add green bands as well?

No, I am going for the red brown and pale sand over the dark yellow.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 05, 2017, 07:38:36 AM
As previously mentioned I decided to use the sdkfz250/1 Alte as a sdkfz253 Totenkontrolfahrzeug for Weird War games.

So I have started the assembly (none of the problems I had with the Studebaker). I have used the cyclone filters off the Tiger for a crew compartment air filter.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8zJKMI_a_0k/WJZhcpwkfgI/AAAAAAAAB1w/wzg6FkMibZ03FKTUDIIk8R2UtSMkUrK7gCLcB/s400/sdkfz253tk-04.png)
The rest of the build follows the instructions.

I have not attached the wheel assembly, so the body can be given a coat of PSC dark yellow (in reality I assume that 253s were only turned out in grey with added camouflage later in their life.

The jerry can rack and the box on the door are inspired by the photograph on page 56 of the Terry Gander book on the 250.

The photograph shows I have some finishing to do.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on February 05, 2017, 11:13:17 AM
The box on the door in that photo is a standard feature of the SdKfz 250/9.  I like the jerrycan bracket.  Maybe have some kind of hose connecting the filter to the crew compartment.  I think a Weird War version of this vehicle would also carry some kind of armament.

Here's my SdKfz 253.  Like you, I move at a fairly glacial pace...

(https://s29.postimg.org/qrwj3de6b/IMG_0048.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/qrwj3de6b/)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 05, 2017, 05:24:16 PM
The original plan was to use the plumbing from the Feifel filters, but that plan fell apart after contact with the top plate (I wanted to keep the big aerial). I still need to fill the hole in the side of one of the filters where the plumbing fitted.

Where it is mounted is behind the fuel tank, but I might put pipes in next to the door.

I think on the instructions the box is on the inside of the door for the 250/1.

I was wondering about fitting an MG42 between the binocular sight as a remote weapon mount.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on February 05, 2017, 08:14:08 PM
The original plan was to use the plumbing from the Feifel filters, but that plan fell apart after contact with the top plate (I wanted to keep the big aerial). I still need to fill the hole in the side of one of the filters where the plumbing fitted.

Run some kind of tube from the right side of the Feiffel filter down into the side panel.

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I think on the instructions the box is on the inside of the door for the 250/1.

That's meant to be a first aid kit - it's not quite accurate (see p.77 of the Gander book).  I think the box on the outside of the SdKfz 250/9 door is related to the 20mm KwK 38.  There's an open one on p.58 of the Gander book.

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I was wondering about fitting an MG42 between the binocular sight as a remote weapon mount.

How about in a ball mount in place of the radio operator's visor?
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 05, 2017, 11:33:51 PM
Good spot, it is like one of those pictures that is either a candlestick or two faces. Now I know, that is what I see ^___^.

Interesting thought. Definitely want something that can be used "under armour".

There are signs of possible pistol ports on the hull in the drawings and photographs (under the driver/radio operator side vision blocks - the 252 on page 65 - and at the rear side panels - page 88). Trying to work out a way of making regular sized discs.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on February 06, 2017, 01:21:57 AM
How about the remote MG mount used on the Hetzer and late Stug III ,  that would work , and you could add the close in defence weapon found on late Panthers and Tigers . The drawing on page 74 shows the pistol port under the side view slots on the 253 .  Not sure the rear side disc is a port as the 250/9 has one on page 56 . Not much use if you have no vision slot to see what your shooting at   ::)
(https://s27.postimg.org/h2y37one7/panther_ausf_g1.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/h2y37one7/)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 06, 2017, 02:38:14 AM
Is the close in defence weapon a mortar/grenade launcher in a rotatable mount?
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 06, 2017, 03:03:34 AM
Rundumsfeur remote mg.

http://www.pzfahrer.net/hetzermgs.html (http://www.pzfahrer.net/hetzermgs.html)

URL is a bit flaky.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on February 06, 2017, 05:06:00 AM
Yes , the close defence weapon ( Nahverteidgungswaffe   :o ) was sort of like the bomb thrower on Shermans , except that it could rotate 360' , all the better to try and kill of attacking Russians
(https://s23.postimg.org/5md8sasqv/Interior_Painted_Dry_Fit16.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/5md8sasqv/)
Internals - the handle bar with the site is for the remote mG , the black thingy in the rear is the " breech " of the cdw ( photo from a  fantastic Missing -Lynx  Stug III build by Mike Roof  ) 
(https://s27.postimg.org/4dwg1t0rj/IMG_20170205_141431509_HDR.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/4dwg1t0rj/)
Here's a couple of top views of the CDW on the BA Tiger and Panther ( which I added  )
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on February 06, 2017, 10:18:47 AM
A close defence weapon would be cool.  I was thinking of something like this:

(https://s29.postimg.org/k62pvgper/IL_Armor_03_216.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/k62pvgper/)

It seems to me the IDF would be a good source of ideas for modifying WW2 armoured vehicles.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on February 06, 2017, 11:13:44 AM
Could also add those grenade /smoke launcher things , seen on Tiger and Panzer III / IV turret sides . They were fired electrically from inside  but had to be loaded from outside . Plus they tended to catch fire and explode if hit in combat , hence being deleted and the CDW installed . If your doing a what if / Konflic  47 , they would have used the latest stuff , not taken a step back IMO . While a mg on the drivers plate of the 250 might work and look cool , you wouldn't have room there for the armored ball mg mount , just a sliding port , kind of defeats the purpose of the armor up front , having your window open . The IDF halftrack has a front window easily 2 times as high as the 250 , so room for ball mount . Much better to have a roof mounted remote mg ( Rumdumsfuer ) IMO
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 06, 2017, 05:17:16 PM
Thanks for the ideas.

The ball mount on that half-track is neat, definitely something for a companion to the easy eight when I build one.

The smoke dischargers are a strange thing, if you look at the current Leopard, it has a bunch of them down the side of the turret. I know the ATGW environment is different from the WW2 one, but I wonder if it was a reaction similar to the initial Zimmerit addition and then not adding it. A "Dangerous Dogs Act" reaction.

It is noticeable that none of the rules I have read mention smoke dischargers or candles or the CDW, they rarely get mentioned elsewhere. Were they that ineffective? The US sealed up the hole on their Shermans.

The CDW is an interesting idea, but adds another hole in the supposedly sealed fighting compartment.

According to the limited information I have found, the 253 had an MG for defense, but I have yet to find out where it was mounted.

Another question, I had always thought the covers over the vision ports had bullet proof glass protected slits, but photographs in the Terry Gander book show plain covers. Is that an artifact of the reproduction?

The simplest option is to just drill a hole in the roof and glue a thin slices from some Evergreen tube to represent the mounting point. I have not fitted the one to my JgPzr 38(T).

The alternative is to delicately drill between the binocular sight and add a slice of Evergreen tube and build the remote gun later.

Having the sight and the gun together does mean you can only call in fire or defend yourself but does mean that one function does not block the line of sight of the other.

Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on February 06, 2017, 06:19:36 PM
Ripley is right about the limited space for an MG mount, although it could be done by building a protruding box shape. 

The German close defence weapon wouldn't compromise your sealed fighting compartment, so maybe that's a good idea.  A bit boring visually, however.  There were persistent production shortages with the remote-controlled MG, so in real life it often wasn't fitted, but it could be quite a nice addition to your vehicle.  Maybe have an IR sight as well?

Some SdKfz 253s had MGs, but photos of them are rare.  This famous photo, often misidentified as an SdKfz 250/3, is an Afrika Korps SdKfz 253 fitted with a frame antenna and mounting an MG 34.  That said, it's not clear how the MG is mounted (although it's clear it's not in the same place as an SdKfz 250), and the position of the crew doesn't quite seem to match the configuration of the roof hatches.

(https://s24.postimg.org/iwkdm04xt/AK253.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/iwkdm04xt/)

There were armoured glass lenses fitted behind the visors, which had slits (restored neu SdKfz 250 at Beltring):
   
(https://s29.postimg.org/bumecmrk3/beltring2009c_92.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/bumecmrk3/)


Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 06, 2017, 07:03:16 PM
Thanks for that.

The 253 photograph shows there are slits in the front ones, which makes sense.

Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 07, 2017, 06:40:09 AM
How about...
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-W4xnqxEqKSo/WJi2Ot70SgI/AAAAAAAAB2M/SFlEYi9TTeEBDqhrM_nmew71r7hWZfU-gCLcB/s1600/spinnecompare3.png)

Only kidding, it was a size comparison for a Weird War vehicle.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on February 07, 2017, 09:23:19 AM
Hmm , did you glue the roof on ? If not , trace the shape on plastic card and add a hole so you could mount the  turret  . I did the same kind of thing in 1/35 using the old ( very old) Tamiya 250 and a Zvezda B-10 AC turret
(https://s30.postimg.org/uyd3vlfvx/IMG_20170206_181521603.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/uyd3vlfvx/)

(https://s28.postimg.org/tfi2sq4k9/IMG_20170206_181611.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/tfi2sq4k9/)
One of those fun kit- mingles using extra  Dragon parts and Miniarts 45mm ammo set . Still working on a crew . I just love this hobby in so many scales  :D
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on February 08, 2017, 12:21:07 PM
Just spotted this on Armorama  and thought this idea might be right up your alley  :)
(https://s29.postimg.org/lt05hvqf7/sdkfz_250_neu_with_12_panzerwerfer_42_panzerwaff.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/lt05hvqf7/)
Shouldn't be too hard to kit bash , just some tubing mostly
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 08, 2017, 04:37:07 PM
Excellent idea.

I had thought to use a Stuka zu Fuss (scary, predictive text supplied the second and third words) with a hard top or hope for a Maultier or sWS with Panzerwerfer 42.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on February 08, 2017, 07:17:43 PM
Yes, this looks very '1946'.  You could have the rockets from the Stuke zu Fuss, but in a rotating launcher.  I guess you'd put a roof plate over the existing hatches? 
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Ballardian on February 08, 2017, 09:35:41 PM
I agree that it's an excellent idea - given the absence of a sWS based Panzerwerfer in plastic (there is the WG resin/pewter Maultier version).
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 12, 2017, 12:57:21 AM
For those of you with long memories, the Warlord Sherman V has now received a base coat and some scuffing.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-G1qGUukqcmo/WJ8-isFdZHI/AAAAAAAAB3E/JIBDkz0JJ1UO4GoZuaEQEpyLpwA6mbkuwCLcB/s1600/m4a4-1-13.png)
There are a few bits that need clean up (one of the crates has track colour on it) but it is currently in the process of receiving the decals for A Squadron Grenadier Guards (the M4s are C squadron, the M5A1 is HQ squadron). Once varnished, the paint work will be cleaned up.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on February 12, 2017, 01:57:46 AM
Looks good , nice paint job . What color did you use ?
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 12, 2017, 02:57:52 AM
Thanks.

The base is PSC British Tank Green Spray over Citadel Chaos Black spray.

I have highlighted some edges with a mix of Vallejo WW2 Russian Green (best match to the PSC British green) and Vallejo Old Wood (also used on the crates).

Tyres are Vallejo Black Grey, soft stowage is various Vallejo and Citadel greens. The tarp over the crate is Vallejo US Olive Drab.

I do wish I had left the WD Jerry can in the base green, not convinced that a wash will bring out the lettering.

Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on February 12, 2017, 03:25:19 PM
Great to see some paint on it.  I haven't tried the Vallejo Russian Green yet, but the PSC spray seems to give very good coverage.

After seeing Rubicon's prototype Firefly, I'm seriously considering ditching my WiP Warlord Sherman Vs.  There are too many irritations - the moulded-on appliqué armour, mis-shapen commander's hatch, and general heavy-handedness.  I might just wait for Rubicon's kit.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 12, 2017, 04:48:21 PM
Thanks.

The Vallejo Russian Uniform green is not a perfect match, but better than the dark yellow match.

On the Cromwell below, you can see the difference in colour on the cowl.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-94tXus3-cqU/WJ8_pgAKGSI/AAAAAAAAB3M/Hq79o3vVe34FuTS4cFKTP1k2LcyEsMMKACLcB/s1600/cromwell-2-5.png)

It is fairly easy to blend in.

The Vallejo dark yellow is rather too green, very obvious on the liberated jerry can.

Both have now gained their decals. The Cromwell's squadron identifier will appear here later (M5A1 small invasion star).
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on February 12, 2017, 11:08:59 PM
Just give the Jerry can a black wash , before washing the whole tank in the brown wash . A little practice and it all works out  ::) . Some of the colors I use look horrid before adding washes , always great to show people works in progress  :o I've used AV Model Color Dark Grey for Panzer Grey cans . As well AV MC Green Ochre , AV Model Air Dark Yellow and Humbrol Matt 94 as variations of German Panzer Yellow . Of course a black or  brown wash , weather the Army Painter varieties or the GW stuff , makes a world of difference . Neat effect to paint half a dozen cans in one color , but use  a different wash for each  . Depends how crazy you want to be  ::)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 13, 2017, 12:50:10 AM
@Pinky - yes the Sherman V is a lot lumpy, it looks like an older kit than the original M4 kit. But, it will probably be a couple of years before Rubicon get round to delivering them so I am going to persevere with them (good practice). I still have four of the M4 kits to do something with.

@Ripley - thanks. The four on the back of the Crusader are all different colours. A good idea to use the black wash on the darker green, I will give it a try.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 13, 2017, 12:59:17 AM
A use for all those Invasion Stars that litter decal sheets.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-mIP1r4DqVtk/WJ8_rv7se2I/AAAAAAAAB3U/DSXRNQPUkhAviXBiZfK5yzbVflbbuyHjQCPcB/s1600/unbrigadedcromwell.png)
The photographs of 2nd Welsh Guards Cromwells in the book British Tanks In Normandy show the squadron mark on the stowage boxes adjacent to the turret.

No decal set has a suitably sized mark for any of the squadrons (even the one that comes with the kit).

Luckily, the small invasion stars off the Rubicon M5A1 set are almost the right size.

This one had the star roughly cut out before application, it went on okay, but its counterpart on the other side disintegrated and was removed.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Nj3IINphsLA/WKCMsrrT1pI/AAAAAAAAB4s/iB1RufGIvKIA56K5w8_GbNH0GxNFyurpwCLcB/s1600/cromwell-2-7.png)
After making a mess of the first attempt on this side, I just used the decal as is, and then painted the star out with Vallejo Russian Uniform green.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JKkM-q-OYxE/WKCMsvk7EbI/AAAAAAAAB40/dLXalbBMWLgkF9oSdFja0tacmwWrE-AzgCLcB/s1600/cromwell-2-6.png)

Lots of Decalfix was required, and it ate the black paint on the tow rope. It needs a further tidy up.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on February 13, 2017, 01:22:20 AM
Looks great . Nice save with the decals . 
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 19, 2017, 05:41:48 PM
Distractions...
A British Galahad Armoured Infantryman supported by a Rubicon M5A1.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-6efAXKqdTuM/WKlUdhDdbnI/AAAAAAAAB7c/Ytt79LSGfA8jg29Cbez5bwYJkrFxdHRIgCLcB/s1600/galahad-1-9.png)

And a British Steel Armoured Infantryman.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fLwZcxe8P_o/WKlVzyiR-9I/AAAAAAAAB74/DD-t-KYK3WMb-8DsuoVhUJSdRFNrqG78ACLcB/s1600/britishsteel-1-8.png)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on February 20, 2017, 02:53:11 AM
Tank looks great . Troopers look great as well , weird but great  ;D Konflik 46/7 ?
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on February 20, 2017, 05:59:51 AM
The top one is a Warlord Konflikt 47 Galahad, the bottom a West Wind SOTR British Steel suit.

They will both probably end up  being used for Konflikt 47.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 24, 2017, 02:59:28 PM
Very quiet on the World War Two modelling front. I have added a couple of crates to my Katyusha but I forgot to get any Russian tank paint at Salute.

I include this here as it has a Rubicon bucket and flimsy can as part of the stowage.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qS5l0Mtd3T0/WP2Xk7KvXgI/AAAAAAAACIU/lsfT6kTKjoE6mlHEnoR00Tulz7BVtnoFQCLcB/s1600/ft1-15.png)

Still deciding on the markings (it is intended to be a tank brought out of storage and pressed into British service after the fall of France).

I do need to paint the inside of the bucket, as we!L as final tidying and weathering.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on April 26, 2017, 11:49:17 AM
I like this colour.  I am planning to try it out soon.  Do you know what colour would be best to use for the earlier, khaki colour applied to British tanks?  I need to paint a Lend-Lease Churchill.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Ballardian on April 26, 2017, 11:30:32 PM
Pinky - is it Khaki Green No.3 you're after? It's generally a bit of of bugger to find a single paint analogue for it, but if you're happy with Vallejo Mike Starmer produced the recipe for a mix that's regarded as being pretty good (see swatch below - the small patch of Brown Violet is there to show it's innaccuracy - Battlefront recommend BV & it's not even close). Hope it's helpful...


(https://s23.postimg.org/hu81d4qbb/starmer-vallejo-mix_khaki-green-3_key.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/hu81d4qbb/)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on April 27, 2017, 01:30:56 AM
How does that compare to Vallejo Russian Uniform Green? have a look at the Cromwell cowl to see how it compares to PSC British Tank spray.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Ballardian on April 27, 2017, 01:58:29 AM
The Starmer mix is browner than VMC Russian Uniform, but it is representing No.3 which was phased out (on tanks at any rate) by '41 (the MAFVA site is useful -
Code: [Select]
http://www.mafva.net/other%20pages/starmer%20camo.htm but tends to reference enamel paints like Humbrol/Revell). The PSC tank spray (which I also like) lies somewhere between Bronze Green (but closer to) British OD (excitingly called SCC15) - again, I dont think there's a pot of this out there, it's another mix it yourself - 50:50 VMC Olive Grey & Russian Uniform.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on April 27, 2017, 10:12:14 AM
Pinky - is it Khaki Green No.3 you're after? It's generally a bit of of bugger to find a single paint analogue for it, but if you're happy with Vallejo Mike Starmer produced the recipe for a mix that's regarded as being pretty good (see swatch below - the small patch of Brown Violet is there to show it's innaccuracy - Battlefront recommend BV & it's not even close). Hope it's helpful...

Thanks very much - that's very helpful.  I was hoping to avoid mixing paint.  I did that to get the right shade of so-called Panzer grey, but I couldn't get it consistent so I painted over it with a Vallejo grey.  I might use the Brown Violet on the basis that it will have a whitewash camo over it.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Ballardian on April 30, 2017, 12:02:13 AM
Pinky - before you plumb for the Vallejo BV there is another one pot option - apologies for not remembering it before, in the Mig Ammo range there is a KG No.3 (MIG-113). I've not used it, so can't speak to how accurate it is, but it certainly looks more so than the Vallejo. They're optimised for airbrushes, but are reasonably well behaved when brushed on (though I'd use their own thinner, they didn't like either the Vallejo or Lifecolor ones that I've tried & regreted). Other than that I've found the paints excellent, with good smooth coverage.
 
(https://s30.postimg.org/7ujkt795p/Mig_Ammo_Khaki_Green_No.3_A.MIG-113.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7ujkt795p/)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 04, 2017, 03:42:01 AM
A little bit of detailing for a Warlord Sherman VC.

There is room on the left back of the hull besides the storage box for four jerry cans.

I thought this would be a good use for part A11, though it needed to be cut in half.
A War Department jerry can was fitted at one end with the logo showing. At the other end a German jerry can was used.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-poYgqq4hKjs/WTL_BNGv72I/AAAAAAAACVc/0e33Id10CvoCdYD-xSram5F9i84Gs-LOQCLcB/s1600/m4a4C1-4.png)
A shelf was made out of 4mm strip and a strap holding them in place out of thin strip.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-F3TS0z05aW8/WTL_BN7BXzI/AAAAAAAACVg/rfHAHsJY0bIVgkVoyAC4t09FVS804NNmACLcB/s1600/m4a4C1-5.png)

Two small strips of plastics were added to cans and then it was glued to the back of the tank.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qzrRhOOz0wA/WTL_BfKhSeI/AAAAAAAACVk/O_vKRJdRLTwZZD6zruPYJ8w00h54zbm1ACLcB/s1600/m4a4C1-6.png)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on June 05, 2017, 06:12:32 PM
I like it.  The strap could perhaps be a bit thinner, assuming it's meant to be canvas or leather.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 05, 2017, 11:07:35 PM
It probably should be (it works out at 1.68 inches across - 0.030 x 0.010 Slater's microstrip). 0.020 inch is also available, that works out at 1.12 inches.

It also could do with being a bit higher up the cans (trying to avoid the W^D logo).

I might add a lip at the bottom.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on June 06, 2017, 12:49:37 AM
You could always add a few vertical strips and it would look like it's made out of metal by the REME boys :D
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 06, 2017, 02:13:37 AM
A good thought.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 08, 2017, 05:15:18 AM
Zvezda 15mm scale Panzer 38(t) together with the Warlord model.

Numbers by Rubicon (German AFV set times two).
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-95OwtFffdOE/WTgwwSiiiVI/AAAAAAAACWg/DYu8WZsOxLI_IWc-HXmpWVykQzJfp11OQCLcB/s1600/compare-pz38t-1.png)
For the 15mm model the numbers on the JPnzr 38(t) might have been nearer the correct size.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 08, 2017, 03:34:40 PM
And the Puma is at last finished.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-xgZWMn3fT1U/WTg0qu50axI/AAAAAAAACXE/j8Sknywychsdd857tnIYQYnPXw4sVgQMwCLcB/s1600/puma1-6.png)
Rubicon numbers (lazy and obvious).
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YT65bkyYMNM/WTg0qiyCDDI/AAAAAAAACW8/iiCaT3JijpQxpntpLS18xYg04Nk-rqjdwCLcB/s1600/puma1-4.png)
Rubicon fuel drums and pump.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CyvMs2MaPaM/WTg0qL1159I/AAAAAAAACWw/imk9SZ52qgMRFCh5-t4aWsZyiRqZwKaNgCLcB/s1600/puma1-1.png)
Infrared spotlight made from a PSC 15mm scale Panther cupola.

The PSC Panzer yellow spray went bad, there is an interesting crackle effect, especially on the turret front.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on June 08, 2017, 04:40:21 PM
I like it.  The colour is good, and the shading is effective.  And as always the soft stowage is lovely.  Maybe a bit more scratching etc around the hatches, engine deck and storage lockers?  Especially if this is a vehicle that's been in service for a while.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Ballardian on June 09, 2017, 12:09:54 AM
 Nice work, as Pinky mentioned, gorgeous soft stowage as usual.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 09, 2017, 02:48:15 PM
Thanks.

I had a go at some chipping and scratching (I found Humbrol Decalfix applied quickly can remove poorly applied paint, thankfully).

My thoughts are the locker doors, the bumpers, the hatches and the routes to and from the turret.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 11, 2017, 03:07:35 PM
First the wheels.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vKEvbMtNyQk/WTzljZ0PiyI/AAAAAAAACXc/DnfJ37dv9Kkr1FCPZ5XTT-N9zIwjwOxWgCLcB/s1600/puma1-filledwheel1.png)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-a24bIPHVz1U/WTzljfyDjhI/AAAAAAAACXU/RosBYuZorhYqldddwDK3AjkFflYAKHMawCLcB/s1600/puma1-filledwheel2.png)

Not sure if it is hiding the hollow wheels or poor camerawork.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vFbOXFFhMfI/WTzlj7tXyVI/AAAAAAAACXg/1LRD2tkAUoAk_iKzWvc7mtpan1rZFYeNQCLcB/s1600/puma1-filledwheel4.png)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 11, 2017, 03:08:50 PM
More wear and tear.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Td3a2yKpXu8/WTzmcHuuukI/AAAAAAAACXo/-H4EFcXMljsvZU-5sdcfV-_ia5nIYrMxwCLcB/s1600/puma1-7.png)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nFC_CuTxnNE/WTzmb3F9lkI/AAAAAAAACXk/Ya1gIpGSZTgxTnqR5mTbGpew1ALjLFU3QCLcB/s1600/puma1-8.png)

I think some more is required.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on June 11, 2017, 03:20:22 PM
I think the additional weathering is great the way it is.  I'd call this one done. 
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 11, 2017, 04:04:47 PM
Thanks.

Now to finish off the Hetzer (and the Katyusha) and start assembly on the M4A3E8 (once I have a colour scheme).
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on June 11, 2017, 09:47:54 PM
The wheels look good , Nice use of the hooks / tow cable from the BA 251 , I should have  thought of that  :-[
(https://s9.postimg.org/7djpmciuz/234-2_d.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7djpmciuz/)
 This is the Puma the Brits captured and returned to the UK for testing , after testing they used it as a range target !  It looks pretty beat up for late 44 , so I would assume any that lasted to "46 would probably be in real rough shape , like this one
(https://s22.postimg.org/57cg8d325/234-2_i.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/57cg8d325/)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 12, 2017, 01:37:39 AM
Thanks for the positive comments.

I did wonder about following Ripley's lead and removing the door from one of the stowage boxes. Mangling the mudguards like the picture above is well beyond me.

One feature of the model are the two fuel drums.

When I looked at this photograph, do you know what crossed my mind?
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YT65bkyYMNM/WTg0qiyCDDI/AAAAAAAACW8/iiCaT3JijpQxpntpLS18xYg04Nk-rqjdwCLcB/s1600/puma1-4.png)

One hole in the front of the drum and the fuel will run down the top of the mudguard straight on to the hot exhaust box. Fun will not ensue.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on June 12, 2017, 09:38:50 AM
IRC ,, the Puma had a Tatra  Diesel engine , so not as dangerous as gas
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on June 12, 2017, 11:10:41 AM
One hole in the front of the drum and the fuel will run down the top of the mudguard straight on to the hot exhaust box. Fun will not ensue.

Nevertheless, fuel drums were sometimes carried on engine decks.  I assume you'd drop them when you got to the combat zone.

(https://s23.postimg.org/rxsy036h3/Tiger.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/rxsy036h3/)

One small point I noticed is the black on the exhausts.  It looks a bit solid.  Can you drybrush some more black over it to make it look more like soot and less like an oil stain?

Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 12, 2017, 03:18:48 PM
@Ripley: yes you are right it is a diesel.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SdKfz_234 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SdKfz_234)

@Pinky: I will have a go at feathering the edges a bit. The muzzle break could do with some soot as well, the black s a bit stark.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on June 13, 2017, 02:17:43 PM
@Ripley: yes you are right it is a diesel.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SdKfz_234 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SdKfz_234)

@Pinky: I will have a go at feathering the edges a bit. The muzzle break could do with some soot as well, the black s a bit stark.

Blackened muzzles are just artistic licence.  There would be some discolouration over time, and loss of paint around the edges, but not the sooty black look that modellers like.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 13, 2017, 03:53:37 PM
True, since the deployment of smokeless powder at the end of the 19th century, except for Northover Projectors.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 23, 2017, 02:01:49 AM
More uses for the Allied Stowage set, plus uses for the bits left over from building the SDKFZ253.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lFTe0u0HHRE/WUv-9CkYAJI/AAAAAAAACZ4/oHLsJjaz24UAFC-asi_838TQV8wvf1eGACLcBGAs/s1600/cardenloyd1-1.png)
An Empress Carden Loyd MMG carrier. For some reason the model is not supplied with the tripod for using the Vickers off of the vehicle. The tripod from the Rubicon SDKFZ250/253 kit was shortened and added to the glacis.

Also a use for the middle two boxes (left over from the two end ones being used on turret boxes).
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XTO3hUDe5dQ/WUv-9Evuq4I/AAAAAAAACZ8/cfIwfkxL8uUZkSIdVbnhmhuts_LxPU7TgCLcBGAs/s1600/cardenloyd1-3.png)

Painted in a dark green (Citadel Caliban Green) as a vehicle pressed into service.

Still awaiting transfers and final weathering.

Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Ballardian on June 23, 2017, 10:20:16 PM
 Cool little vehicle 8)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 25, 2017, 09:46:20 PM
Epic Fail on my Spot Hidden roll...

As I mentioned, I have an unfinished T34/85. I have decided that is my next project to finish.

So I looked through my sprues boxes for the remaining bits and pulled the instructions out of the instructions folder.

No sprue C (lights, tool boxes and one fuel tank - the others being in the sub assemblies box for the T34).

Turns out that I had looked at the sprue and thought it was one of the Tiger sprues.

The illustration that will be is inspiration is the bottom photograph on page 33 of the Tankograd book on the East German T34. Lots of stowage.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on June 25, 2017, 11:41:45 PM
Nice little vehicle .Great use of the stowage bits . Really hope Rubicon make a more generic stowage set , maybe with suit cases , small barrels / kegs ,  a bicycle , even saw a picture of a piano on the rear deck of a T-34 :o . I've pretty much picked clean all my HO train and 1/35 scale stuff that would work for 1/56 .
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 26, 2017, 03:13:46 AM
Ainsty do some metal suitcases and pots and pans (I have not been able to find them on the site).

When I find mine I will put a photograph here (plus I will have the code).
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 26, 2017, 03:19:10 AM
The T34. The inspiration is from the Tankograd book on the East German T34s. Particularly the one on page 31 which is stacked with stowage.

I have added some more hand rails (aided by the Bill Bedford Hand Rail Jig).
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-EtyVuE7buQM/WVAEgdfkgQI/AAAAAAAACbA/8gery9zmda4qvgJzStOWkknnCwChosUTwCLcBGAs/s1600/t34-85-2.png)

The fuel drums are just sitting there at the moment (I need to add some straps). I have also added one of the German tool boxes on the turret bustle (it is not quite the right shape).

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XSbPNeCa2sE/WVAEgS4uxFI/AAAAAAAACbE/xpCMVqFzytMH7tm3_AvhWN7A90GMBrPiACLcBGAs/s1600/t34-85-1.png)

One feature of the East German T34s was the addition of a Notek driving lamp.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LVB43m-St-c/WVAEgSOpbcI/AAAAAAAACa8/LRERIjorVywwxB0mTY4_VVqqOlmcDZotwCLcBGAs/s1600/t34-85-notek.png)
The lamp is made from plastic rod and strip, with a brush guard from 0.7mm brass rod.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on June 26, 2017, 06:33:24 AM
Looking good . Don't forget to add an open vision port or two for the driver  :D
(https://s23.postimg.org/v495qlvnb/driver-s-hatch-mechanics-t-vision-devices-338295.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/v495qlvnb/)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 27, 2017, 01:05:26 AM
I still have five hand rails to add, and have already glued the hatch down. I will leave that to those who are more skilled than I am ^__^.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on June 27, 2017, 09:06:18 AM
Easy peasy , no cutting of the kit involved . All you need is some thin plastic strip , xacto  and sanding stick .
(https://s8.postimg.org/bpjvq37ld/IMG_20170626_185654132.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/bpjvq37ld/)
1, plastic strip ( width eyeballed  ::) ) 2. sand corners roundish , 3, bend and cut to size - test fit , cut again and glue . I usually just glue right over the cast cover . You can paint it black and rub it with HB pencil lead to give it a bit of a glass block reflection look . The covers operated independently ,so one open full , other open half or even closed . An easy visual  up grade for little effort
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 27, 2017, 03:24:10 PM
Was there a preference for left or right cover being raised?

Can I see one of yours viewed from the front so I can see the effect?

Thanks.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 27, 2017, 03:34:04 PM
A little bit of work yesterday.
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-K0Jy1aFtmHs/WVGC5wQvBlI/AAAAAAAACbg/MdmWBq44djQw_UQNR2lp5_ujZVwVMjr5ACLcBGAs/s1600/t34-85-3.png)

Tanks added (based on the Czech/Egyptian one in the IWM), just noticed I have the filler the wrong end on the right side- rats.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HIFbnGEh9wA/WVGC52ewypI/AAAAAAAACbc/-wXGKYKu4jsvQ_vQaZXc4a4dV52MEj9UACLcBGAs/s1600/t34-85-4.png)

Walk round:http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/compare-t34-85-part-two.html (http://ultravanillasmurf.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/compare-t34-85-part-two.html)

Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on June 27, 2017, 08:29:34 PM
Firstly , the fuel filler caps could be on either end ( or the middle, depending on model ) as the fuel drum was removable . All the pre 1960s tanks had no connection between the spare drums and the internal tanks , they had to transfer by hand pump ( hence the pump box on JS 2s ) IRC . So yours look right . There also were two sizes of drums . 100 lt and a 160 lt ( at least  that's what could be mounted on the JS2 and seen here on a post war T-34 / 85 ) Most picture of preserved tanks show center fuel cap on drum , so I assume this version became the standard
(https://s23.postimg.org/pwp9losmf/t34-85-cobbaton-combat_zpsjy37mnt1.jpg_original.jpg) (https://postimgs.org/image/pwp9losmf/)
 Notice side fuel drums have a handle on each end , an item missing on both BAs and Rubicons fuel drums . Not the smaller drum for making smoke screens . Its also missing on many larger scale kits too  ::) .Heres a couple of pictures of my T-34s showing driver hatches
(https://s9.postimg.org/nbwzkesnf/IMG_20170627_060458.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/nbwzkesnf/)

(https://s21.postimg.org/bwkdaevgj/IMG_20170627_060507.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/bwkdaevgj/)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 27, 2017, 11:10:17 PM
Thanks.
This is the IWM example.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Z11_dAok460/VjoSNSdJ0KI/AAAAAAAABHQ/US7shgOB0aQ/s1600/IMG_8554.JPG)
You see what I mean about the filler caps.

I think there were handles on the kit drums, I shaved them off to smooth out the ends. The key problem is the lack of the lip on the end of the drums (I am sure it came up elsewhere). I think I added the handles on the Warlord example.

Thanks for the photographs of the hatches.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on June 28, 2017, 12:15:11 AM
Maybe add the rim to the drum by using piece of thread and liquid cement . I've done it in 1/35  , a bit messy but it can be done  . I used a stiffer needle point type thread stolen from my wife's sewing box . Personally don't think the rim matters in this scale ( the JS2 ones are over size / too thick ) , the handles are IMO a much more visible feature . Then again you change the hand rails , and I don't , so each to his own  :D
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on June 28, 2017, 04:05:12 AM
Nothing to add to this entertaining thread except I've just re-visited the London IWM T-34, and the example in Duxford IWM.  Seeing the real thing emphasises what an impressive achievement this tank was.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 28, 2017, 05:59:24 AM
I cannot remember where we were discussing loot and I mentioned the Ainsty set (the Salesman kit).
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4HNZYq5xtDw/WVLQkX2kdbI/AAAAAAAACcI/lPxVvpIEw0YXUTfOdBAmhQZQXvFZ25HWgCLcBGAs/s1600/salesmankit1.png)

And sitting on the T34.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-HyhI2w0urys/WVLQksR455I/AAAAAAAACcM/2jfUGsk_KZI80OLNI2HEZpeUqYt-As-7QCLcBGAs/s1600/salesmankit2.png)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on June 28, 2017, 11:45:24 AM
Nice . Might be a little big ( more 1/48 maybe ) then again suitcases did come in a  lot larger size in the past . My Mum still has one she got when we flew back from Germany ( 1962 ) , its over 4 t long and 3 and a half feet high . Hm , who makes them and where can I order them ? Might work in a 1/48 dio I have planned
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 28, 2017, 02:54:39 PM
Yes, the suitcases look huge (782mm by 560mm).

There is a photograph in the Normandy Theatre in Colour magazine/book of a Panther with one of those two handed pans with a jerry can in it.

The company is http://ainstycastings.co.uk/index.php (http://ainstycastings.co.uk/index.php), I bought it at a show a while back, but I have been unable to find it on the site (the code 9217 now identifies crowd control barriers).
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 28, 2017, 05:32:19 PM
@Pinky, did you see all three T34s at Duxford?

Looking at the IWM T34 photograph I posted above, I have realised it appears to be a colour match for the new Citadel snot Womble green spray.

Guess what the base colour of my T34 is going to be?
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on June 28, 2017, 11:02:20 PM
There was only one 1 T-34 at Duxford - another post-war version.  Also an SU-100 and an upgraded IS-2M.

(https://s7.postimg.org/jq12lvu1z/IMG_0336.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/jq12lvu1z/)

(https://s7.postimg.org/opyittzon/IMG_0338.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/opyittzon/)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 29, 2017, 12:45:21 AM
Oh, when I was there last there was that one, plus a Furry one (hiding in a building in the Land Warfare hall) plus another outside.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WaveWTlFuec/VkM8aLukLwI/AAAAAAAABIs/dITEwMEthIQ/s1600/IMG_8846.JPG)
Apparently used in Saint Private Ryan.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2kZPdxU2Tbo/VkM_Vm27-bI/AAAAAAAABK4/paNGf7f0JT0/s1600/t34-85-duxford.png)

Saying that, the Grizzly that I saw there was sold a short while later, things change.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 29, 2017, 12:50:02 AM
Nice shot of the combined lamps and brush guard.

This one has lots of boxes on the track guards, and a snorkel (which I failed to identify at the time).
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on June 29, 2017, 02:28:18 AM
I didn't see either of them. 

Back on the model, I like the pots and pans.  The suitcases seem a bit oversized, but are in scale with 28mm figures.  Maybe just one suitcase, however. 
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 29, 2017, 01:40:05 PM
I have to admit if I was a 28mm figure, I would pay extra for porterage.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8xFxQxNWG9A/WVSR4qgLWkI/AAAAAAAACco/UEJbSKhZ_zsXUCcD1tkHMhuepGTNG0L-QCLcBGAs/s1600/suitcase1.png)

And a Perry Miniatures Eighth Army figure.
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3PhQBJ7bhJU/WVSR4izD8ZI/AAAAAAAACck/HQj7mEPtoskPT3PpYW2qrXzeLHfxf9NcACLcBGAs/s1600/suitcase2.png)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on June 29, 2017, 08:21:36 PM
That suitcase sure isn't going to fit in the overhead or under seat racks on the plane . Knowing my luck the airline would probably loose it anyway  ;D
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 30, 2017, 01:19:05 AM
You might fit the 'plane in the suitcase.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on June 30, 2017, 03:13:44 AM
Okay, since we're on the subject of the suitcases, weren't they more squared-off in that period?  They weren't made of plastic, so curved edges seem wrong - at least for such a large one.  Reinforced square corners seem more appropriate. Just wondering.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ripley on June 30, 2017, 04:53:18 AM
My mum has some old , old suitcases ( her Grand mothers's ) , some are leather with square brass corner fittings and locks  , some more like a cover of a hardcover book , with wood trim around the edges , and another that looks like it would mush all up if you got it wet , some kind of paste board covered in patterned  paper . Might be a class thing , leather for the gentry , paste board for the lower classes?  She's got a dozen or so Steamer Trunks with the same kind of variations , again maybe a class thing .
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on June 30, 2017, 03:42:42 PM
True, most film, television and preserved railways have the corner reinforced type suitcases.

Saying that I had a very old resin clam shell case (with split hinges which horrified my hosts who thought my case had broken), it might have been post war.

I should have photographed them when I was clearing out my parents house. One of many regrets.

Halliburton had aluminium cases for personal use in 1938.

There was a cost element in material, the cardboard ones being cheapest.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Pinky on July 01, 2017, 09:18:35 PM
The things we end up discussing...

I must try and make some suitcases for my T-34s.
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: Ballardian on July 01, 2017, 11:28:33 PM
 Nice work on the extra detailing :)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on July 06, 2017, 05:28:42 AM
Thanks.

I have finished the hand rails on the left side (and added two on the other side).
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JlS8wbbwhNY/WV1Y8C0KmRI/AAAAAAAACfY/_PlOAqxIASkBenhYaenUb6cNTd2gPgn4ACLcBGAs/s1600/t34-85-5.png)
Title: Re: UVS models
Post by: ultravanillasmurf on July 11, 2017, 04:40:33 PM
Having broken my 0.7mm drill bit, so no hand rail updates for a while, I present two flame fougasse markers for Operation Sea Lion.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-04p-njl1yf8/WWR3f9-F82I/AAAAAAAACgM/pq1N5KM_KskaD6v_VnuXYOxEdThuidsOwCLcBGAs/s1600/fougasse1.png)

They do not accurately represent what one would look like.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rUdQHIH1sog/WWR3fzPJehI/AAAAAAAACgQ/QUMW_NoVmrk-2SmgjVsr547kZpVSmGp9gCLcBGAs/s1600/fougasse2.png)

Rubicon fuel drum cut diagonally and glued to a Renedra base.

The large numbers are identifiers.