Rubicon Models
Rubicon Models => General Discussions => Topic started by: Rubicon Models on January 20, 2015, 09:49:40 pm
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From time to time, we will post some random images on what we are doing. Not on a particular project, but a variety of things we are working on!
Here are two of them...
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/On%20the%20Drawing%20Board/FBRandom01_zps09a21719.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/On%20the%20Drawing%20Board/FBRandom02_zps9d5d8969.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Something not WW2 vehicle related, but a side project for future product range...
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Misc%20Images/Poles01_zpsd26f609c.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Misc%20Images/Poles02_zps863bad4d.jpg)
Enjoy!
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this lamp post and electric pples look great. If you are planing to go that way there is great space for other city accessories . If you decide to make some city or village sets i know that i will put them in my "to buy list"
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Bolt and nut counters, come and see what we have done so far!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/On%20the%20Drawing%20Board/C01_zps5ecefd4f.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/On%20the%20Drawing%20Board/C02_zps9c12f12c.jpg)
Guess what is this vehicle?
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That'll be one of these - I know that nose anywhere, having built several Airfix versions...
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Wow! That will be a great kit to market. I will definetly purchase a few Crusaders!! I hope that you will make the mark 1 and mark 2 !
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What is it? Don't think you need any hints, right?
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/On%20the%20Drawing%20Board/FB-OTDB-01_zps3v5vuwoh.jpg)
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Another WIP project on the Drawing Board! Should be able to see some more sketches soon!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/On%20the%20Drawing%20Board/US-Tracks-FB-150527-1_zpso0eay2fb.jpg)
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An M10 and/or M36?
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If so it would be great if the additional 17lbr gun could be included to make a M10c Achilles for all of us commonwealth players.
Of course I suppose it could also be an M3 Lee/Grant, which would be great alongside the upcoming Crusader.
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If so it would be great if the additional 17lbr gun could be included to make a M10c Achilles for all of us commonwealth players.
Of course I suppose it could also be an M3 Lee/Grant, which would be great alongside the upcoming Crusader.
That's for sure! There are some subtle differences between the M10 and her British counterpart that needed to be sorted out (or ignored), but should be able to combine the two into a single kit with ease. For the M3 Lee/Grant, the situation is similar, except the bolts and nuts on the vehicle is creating some design issues that we have to resolve creatively...
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An M10/Achilles/M36 (if that's what you're thinking about) would be a very popular kit, I'm sure.
The problem with an M10/M36 kit is that the M10 was built on the diesel-engined M4A2 chassis, while the M36 was built on the Ford petrol-engined M10A1 chassis (many M36s were rebuilt M10A1s - the M10A1 itself never saw active service). So there are detail differences on the engine deck and rear hull.
That issue aside, it's presumably possible to fit all the parts onto the sprues - you did something similar with the M4A3 (although I realise that the M10 and M36 turrets need different interiors as well as different turrets).
The Achilles used the later M10 turret, with the 'duckbill' counterweight on the rear. There were internal differences between the Achilles and M10 turret, but they're probably easy to 'fudge' if the detail is simplified. The most inconvenient difference between the Achilles and the M10 is that the Achilles lacked the prominent bolts on the turret and hull sides, intended for applique armour (that was never fitted). These bolts also disappeared from very late M10s and M36s (but remained on the hull front), but most vehicles that saw service in WW2had them. So I guess if your kit was based on the late version of the M10/M36, you could omit those bolts.
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Pinky: "So I guess if your kit was based on the late version of the M10/M36, you could omit those bolts."
We would rather keep those bolts there, and let the "modeler" to remove them with a cutter and some sandpaper... ;)
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Hope you get your new sculptor on board for this. Crew would be a nice addition.
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We would rather keep those bolts there, and let the "modeler" to remove them with a cutter and some sandpaper... ;)
Yeah, good point. So you only have to deal with the fact that the M10 and M36 engine decks and rear hulls were different.
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Another weekend brain basher...
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/On%20the%20Drawing%20Board/FB%20What%20is%20this%20vehicle%20150612-1_zpsknndogzl.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Well my brain has been well and truly bashed by this one...I'm tempted to say it's the underside of an Ork Wartruk. But my best guess, assuming it is in fact the underside of a vehicle, is that it's an A9/A10 Cruiser or Valentine - mostly because of the spacing of those bolted-on features (which could be the attachment points for the bogey arms), and what looks like a mounting for a return roller in the middle. But the angles aren't quite right, so I'm probably wrong...
Nice one, Rubicon! ;)
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Let me move and scale it down a bit...
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/On%20the%20Drawing%20Board/FB%20What%20is%20this%20vehicle%20150612-2_zpsw6oqfsra.jpg)
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Give us a clue, what Side of the vehicle are we looking at? :p
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This is the bottom view of a tracked vehicle, zoom out another 80%...
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/On%20the%20Drawing%20Board/FB%20What%20is%20this%20vehicle%20150612-3_zpsvettjkdt.jpg)
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The track pattern really threw me - then I realised that they're going to be Rubicon's simplified track design, so that's a bit misleading. A Hetzer? The access panels match the one in the photo below. If that's right, it's probably going to be a popular choice, although I think the earlier Pzr 38T variants are more interesting.
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If that's right, it's probably going to be a popular choice, although I think the earlier Pzr 38T variants are more interesting.
Even though the Pz38(t) and Hetzer shared many common components, the chassis is very different. With a Pz38(t) chassis, we can still do a SdKfz 138 or SdKfz 139H Marder III...
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Yeah - that's right. This seems to have sloped sides so I'm guessing it's a Hetzer. Did I get it?
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Please say it's a Hetzer..!
8) 8) 8)
Cheers
SP
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I hope its a Pz 38(t) for my Blitzkrieg ;)
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Please say it's a Hetzer..!
8) 8) 8)
Cheers
SP
I hope so too!!!
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Another weekend teaser...
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/On%20the%20Drawing%20Board/FB%20On%20the%20Drawing%20Board%20150711-1_zpsjohelwm4.jpg)
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Looks like a GMC truck
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Looks like a GMC truck
Close... but not! ;)
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Studebaker US6?
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Studebaker US6?
It is indeed the Studebaker US6. Studebaker and REO built a total of 219,882 2-1⁄2-ton 6x6 trucks in thirteen variations. Most were exported to the Soviet Union!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/On%20the%20Drawing%20Board/FB%20On%20the%20Drawing%20Board%20150711-2_zpsxqdvsp6u.jpg)
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It is indeed the Studebaker US6. Studebaker and REO built a total of 219,882 2-1⁄2-ton 6x6 trucks in thirteen variations. Most were exported to the Soviet Union!
I love the look of the Studebaker, with flat fenders. Great news! ;D
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Great to see an Allied truck in the works.
Is it viable to provide the parts for both a GMC CCKW and a Studebaker in the same kit? I have limited references on these vehicles, but they appear to have been very similar apart from the design of the cab (and, it appears, the position of the fuel tank).
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Is it viable to provide the parts for both a GMC CCKW and a Studebaker in the same kit? I have limited references on these vehicles, but they appear to have been very similar apart from the design of the cab (and, it appears, the position of the fuel tank).
While most truck manufacturers are using the same modular design, each have subtle differences. The GMC CCKW and Studebaker had a totally different engine and cabin compartment design. Would rather to split them up into two different kits.
This is not because of production issues, but to keep the retail price down. If we are to use multi-slide mould on these trucks, it will be quite pricey to include both in a single kit!
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Fair enough. I'm happy to see the Studebaker in the pipeline - it will be a welcome addition to my Soviet force. Presumably there will be a Katyusha version at some point.
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Something we had been working on... for next year's releases!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/On%20the%20Drawing%20Board/250%2020Aug15-1_zpshaclidk5.jpg)
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Cool! This looks like a new approach to design as well - is it?
I'm going to predict that the SdKfz 250 range you're planning will be extremely popular.
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Cool! This looks like a new approach to design as well - is it?
Not really. Same design software we are using; just different display method.
There is still a lot of work needed to be done on the 250... basically just started!
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More WIP on some stowage bits... getting better and better!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/On%20the%20Drawing%20Board/Allied%20Stowage%20150905-1_zpsuozlwiar.jpg)
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Yeah, those look very good! This is generic stowage for trucks, or for just decorating the battlefield, right?
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Yeah, those look very good! This is generic stowage for trucks, or for just decorating the battlefield, right?
Not yet decided... probably will include one in our upcoming Allied Stowage Kit 1!
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The SdKfz 250 - is it a "alte" or a "neue"?
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The SdKfz 250 - is it a "alte" or a "neue"?
That's the alte version.
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Thanks! Thats great :-)
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A little follow up on our WIP stowage kits...
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/On%20the%20Drawing%20Board/Allied%20Stowage%20150910-1_zps6g9vpclr.jpg)
Enjoy!
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As we are busy packing our bags (and TOP SECRET prototypes) for Spiel 15 (Essen, Germany), here is our weekend teaser for the week! If you happened to be at the show, be sure to drop by the Warehouse Games booth (Hall 2, Booth C-118) to say hallo!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/SU%20Tank%20Destroyers/SU-85-122-Teaser-151002-1_zpsr9qjar9n.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Awesome , my favorite SPGs . Please use your dish road wheels from your T-34 / 76 on these kits . No SU was issued with the shown style of road wheel . Yes they did get the odd Spider style wheel to replace damaged wheels . And those crazy Russians even retro fitted Panther wheels on a few T-34s , just one or two per tank . But no SU ( 85 / 100 / 122 ) used Spider wheels on the complete tank .
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Awesome , my favorite SPGs . Please use your dish road wheels from your T-34 / 76 on these kits . No SU was issued with the shown style of road wheel . Yes they did get the odd Spider style wheel to replace damaged wheels . And those crazy Russians even retro fitted Panther wheels on a few T-34s , just one or two per tank . But no SU ( 85 / 100 / 122 ) used Spider wheels on the complete tank .
Thanks Ripley! These are just preliminary drawings, will check with studio staff.
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I'm as happy as Ripley is to see these - especially the SU-122!
I wasn't aware of the point Ripley makes regarding the wheels (he's a mine of details like this!). However, the SU-122 shouldn't have the smoke cannisters on the rear. These started to appear in about mid-1944, by which time the SU-122 was out of production (they shouldn't be included in the early T-34/76 kit either). They do seem to have appeared on some SU-85s. It would be good if this kit didn't have slots in the rear engine deck for these cannisters, as it's a bit of a pain to remove them if you're not fitting the cannisters.
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Pinky, this is why we have a sneak preview of the SU tank destroyers on the forum. Will met with studio staff again after the Spiel event and discuss. Thanks!
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The SU 122 never had smoke canisters . I think the smoke canisters appear on post war Czech built SU 85 / 100s . All pictures in the Wydawnictwo Militaria SU-85 / 100 / 122 book I have show no mounts or even the piping for the smoke canisters on late 1944 and Berlin May 1945 pictures of SU 85 / 100s . And for those of you who love the SU 122 like I do , Miniart has CAD drawings up of a 1/35 scale kit with full interior . Don't know when it's going to be released but hopefully I'll find one of those under my Christmas tree this year
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Notes taken. This is still very early stage of the project. Will publish more 3D drawings later on for comments.
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Photos of SU-122s and SU-85s in WW2 are actually relatively rare. I agree that none of them appear to show either of these vehicles with smoke cannisters.
Would it be possible for this kit to also include parts to build an SU-100? It's basically a revised roof and another gun and mantlet. This would also mean you could include the late model SU-85M.
I found some good photos of SU-85Ms - note that some do indeed have replacement spoked wheels, but the dished wheel is standard.
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The SU-85 & SU-122 are basically similar in hull structure except for the gun and some notable features. The SU-100 is a very different, would rather do a SU-100 / SU-85M later. Will continue to discuss with studio team on the possibilities.
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After seeing the number of variants you've squeezed onto the M10/M36 sprues, I bet you could include the parts for an SU-100 in this kit...
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I think a kit of the SU 122 / 85 / 85M / 100 is really pushing it , Pinky . I would really love one , but ... . Looking at the scale drawings in my book , you would need 2 front plates , 3 different right ( commanders ) side plates , 3 rear casement plates and 3 roofs . Not to mention parts for the pistol ports and vision slits which were placed different in each version , and all the bits for the guns and mounts . A SU 85 / 85M /100 kit is much more practical parts count wise . And I guess a separate SU 122 kit if the demand is there. I'm thinking Rubicon would rather keep the sprue and parts cost a low as possible . A 3 or more sprue kit would have to be pretty special ( Rubicon 3 in 1 Tiger ) for guys to fork out the $40 or $50 bucks it's going to cost them at the local hobby shop. As it is now , with our low Canadian dollar, kits are hitting $40/ 45. And with paints touching the 5 dollar mark your hobby cash only goes so far ::)
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That seems to be Rubicon's view as well, Ripley / but they've shown increasing ingenuity when comes to providing options. If you think about it, this kit would only need one set of tracks, so the options you mention are about equivalent to what they've done with the M10/M36 (which includes 3 different turrets, 4 guns and 2 hull tops). My concern is that I don't think an SU-100 kit would sell that well, so it's better folded in as an option in an SU-122/SU-85 kit. I may be wrong, however - the SU-100 did see significant service post-war.
Let's see what they do...
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Something we have not done for a while...
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/On%20the%20Drawing%20Board/Willy%20MB%20Jeep%20Teaser%20151123-1_zpsomrbavlh.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Looks like a Jeep wheel....
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Looks like a Jeep wheel....
I hope it is a Jeep wheel.
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I agree, looks like a Jeep wheel. That would be great.
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This is something we feel very exciting!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/On%20the%20Drawing%20Board/FB%20250-9%20Preview%20151126-1_zpsoflxl059.jpg)
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222....?
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Very nice . You might want to check the gunner and loader seats . IRC they are round in shape not those bucket type seats Tamiya has in their kits :)
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Very nice . You might want to check the gunner and loader seats . IRC they are round in shape not those bucket type seats Tamiya has in their kits :)
We have studied Panzer Tracts 13-1 (SdKfz 222) especially on the seats; and if they are correct, the 2 seats "with backrest" has been fitted on both Sockelafette versions, from the 1st till 4th production run vehicles and the one with "bar seat" only from 5th production run on... Therefore, the bucket seat could be a safe assumption. Comments?
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The only photo I could find of a real one:
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Here's the Tristar SdKfz 222 gun mount (from the PPMS site), which is supposed to be accurate.
This is for the SdKfz 250/9, right? In which case it would be a late production type SdKfz 222 turret.
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Here's the Tristar SdKfz 222 gun mount (from the PPMS site), which is supposed to be accurate.
There had been debates on the accuracy of the Tristar / Hobbyboss kit. We have double check most available references, and the "bucket seat x2" seems to be a fail-safe assumption.
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@Pinky:
Imho the first picture posted by you clearly shows the two 'bucket' seats.
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I couldn't make the seats out in that photo. I just posted what I found - I don't know the answer on this one.
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I wonder if the different style of seats relates to which of the four manufacturers built this vehicle as well as to which of the seven production runs it was built in ? I'm thinking bucket seats in 1936 , and ending up with simpler round seats by end of production in June 1943 . The Germans did make things simpler and cruder in detail as the war dragged on , ex MG 42 . Lots of stamped and spot welded sheet metal , with plastic / bakelite stock and pistol grip . Any thoughts ?
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That all makes sense. I trawled through everything I could find on the SdKfz 250/9 (which is what I assume this for) and couldn't find a clear photo of the interior. I did find one with what looked like twin 'bucket' seats, but it really wasn't easy to make out. I would guess that, as part of the simplification process Ripley mentions, producing bucket seats out of pressed metal was probably easier.
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Have not update this topic for a long while... Have some fun here!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/On%20the%20Drawing%20Board/Maultier%20160318-1_zpsccknys9j.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Nice Maultier !
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A universal carrier.
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(http://s28.postimg.org/3m9cdaga1/2016_03_18_21_04_24_1330836057.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/3m9cdaga1/)
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Good to see the first Opel variant underway. Will it be possible to include a Flak mounting as well?
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Good to see the first Opel variant underway. Will it be possible to include a Flak mounting as well?
We are looking at two to three possible variants for the Opel Blitz. So a lot of possibilities. ;)
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Maybe an AA version...
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Armoured cab with Nebelwerfer would be cool !
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Very good!
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Not been updating this thread for well over 3 months...
about time to tease your brain again!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/On%20the%20Drawing%20Board/What%20is%20this%20160721-1_zpsnhrahues.jpg)
Any good guess?
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Bat mans cape..lol
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At the risk of stating the obvious it appears to be a canopy- is it one for your jeep kit? (The cutout in the middle of the right hand side makes me think not though.)
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At the risk of stating the obvious it appears to be a canopy- is it one for your jeep kit? (The cutout in the middle of the right hand side makes me think not though.)
It is indeed a canopy of some sort but in an odd shape. Definitely not for the jeep!
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Cover for side car on BMW
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You could be right , Steve . I was thinking a larger halftrack type vehicle . I didn't think of shrinking the image down. I took the size of the posted picture for granted :-[
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A Kübelwagen?
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Attention to details and understanding what our fans wanted is exactly
what we loved to do! Minor details like these will give your tabletop model
an unique look during a weekend game! More to come...
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Motorcycle/What%20is%20this%20160721-2_zpsv4zufsb5.jpg)
Enjoy!
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That's a very nice touch. Does that mean you're revising the sprue you showed us?
Still don't like the solid spoke look much...
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That's a very nice touch. Does that mean you're revising the sprue you showed us?
We update projects whenever is possible to make the final product better!
...and will continue to update existing released products too!
Still don't like the solid spoke look much...
The spoke wheel is for the integrity of this tiny model for wargaming purposes.
We might release a set of the 3D printed version with all the details and hollow
support (at a much higher costs) to those who fancy one!
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My point is that you don't need the spokes. From a distance, the spokes on a motorbike wheel are virtually invisible. Matchbox did it in 1:76 scale:
(https://s32.postimg.org/z6xxu51n5/05_3_bmw_r75_matchbox_04.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/z6xxu51n5/)
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My point is that you don't need the spokes. From a distance, the spokes on a motorbike wheel are virtually invisible. Matchbox did it in 1:76 scale:
(https://s32.postimg.org/z6xxu51n5/05_3_bmw_r75_matchbox_04.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/z6xxu51n5/)
Before painting, the Project Z bikes have spokes, not convinced they will after painting.
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100% agree with the bikes being small scale 1:56 ....the wheels would look much better if done like the old airfix ones with no spokes
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Once again a teaser for a brand new project...
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/On%20the%20Drawing%20Board/FB%2015cwt%20Truck%20160830-1_zpshyoswunm.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Wow, interesting. Looks like the dashboard of a British vehicle (right hand drive, assuming those are instruments on the right).
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The picture does not seem to display, it might just be my internet connection.
[Edit] It displays fine now.
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Bedford?
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FAT ( Field Artillery Tractor ) ?
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Hmm - it doesn't seem to be an Austin Tilly, AEC Matador, Morris C8, Morris 'Quad' or Bedford QL. There are some similarities with the Bedford's interior (including that access hatch to the left of the driver), but the Bedford's instrument panel was in the centre.
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Looks like a Quad interior
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cmp i reckon
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The CMP FAT is possible. Most of the British vehicles had the instruments in the centre.
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I found a photo of the interior of a Ford CMP truck cab which is very similar to this, including the large central section, access hatch and position of the instruments. I hope that's what it is - I think a CMP truck would be a fantastic choice for Rubicon's first British truck.
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Name this truck! What is this model?
Only the cab is done, we are still working on the rest of the model!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/UK%20Truck/15CWT%20160901-1_zpsbymt250k.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Cool - it is a Chevorlet CMP truck. Great choice!
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Looking forward to it!
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i thought i was right
a 1943 no 13 cabbed cmp truck, ideal.