Rubicon Models
Rubicon Models => Work In Progress => Topic started by: Rubicon Models on June 15, 2018, 11:11:13 pm
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Just leave it here for a few weeks...
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/Traps%20180615-01_zpsbti0utfy.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Not just Allies...
At least they will be the right size this time (I have some mini ones from elsewhere....). ^__^
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Belgian gates too hopefully..
Should we also expect correct scaled bunkers? ;)
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Belgian gates too hopefully..
These?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cointet-element (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cointet-element)
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Hedgehogs are a great addition to the scenery product line . I've already built about 50 of my own but can always use more . A Belgian gate would be nice as well . A real PIA to scratch build . Although I have seen some nice ones by a local modeler .
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Hedgehog is the cover for this new project... it could be part of a scenery item on a new sprue but not a whole project! ;D
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"cover " for the new project , hmm . Maybe some Engineers dis arming mines attached to the hedgehogs , or maybe troops using them for cover like in Saving Private Ryan . Or maybe a wreck of a landing craft hung up on the hedgehogs ..
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Well they do have the forthcoming Goliath kit. Maybe the crew to go with them?
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Or a scenic accessory sprue for something like a Sherman flail expansion kit?
Or a Churchill AVRE? :)
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Or a Churchill AVRE? :)
Yes please!
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AVRE , been there , done that , got the T shirt ;D
(https://s33.postimg.cc/hvvp7szkr/Mk_III.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/hvvp7szkr/)
(https://s33.postimg.cc/oz3kni517/Mk_IV.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/oz3kni517/)
Italeri Churchill kit , with scratch built AVRE side mounts and kit bashed bits here and there to use both kit supplied turrets ( thks to Bruce for the extra Petard barrel ). And yes I would love a true kit of the AVRE with the carpet roller or fascine carrier
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...how about this one? ::)
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...how about this one? ::)
Too many options and/or choices, so we need some more hints.
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HINT #1: This will be a RESIN based project and is going to be one of the largest pieces of machinery on a wargame table!
HINT #2: This game piece can only be used in a certain scenario under any game systems.
It's also not for everyone... ;D
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HINT #1: This will be a RESIN based project and is going to be one of the largest piece machinery one a wargame table!
HINT #2: This game piece can only be used in a certain scenerio under any game systems.
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Is the new vehicle project connected to or related to Hobart's Funnies?
But I must note this - there are two things that concern me. 1) "Resin", and 2) "can only be used in a certain scenerio[sic] under any game systems"
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The anti-tank obstacles and Rubicon's hints suggest some kind of gun emplacement.
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The anti-tank obstacles and Rubicon's hints suggest some kind of gun emplacement.
That's right!
They did not say its a "new vehicle project", so it might not be a vehicle.
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Large resin piece , only certain location , hedgehogs ? I'm thinking some Atlantic Wall gun emplacement / bunker complex . Cool
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Large resin piece , only certain location , hedgehogs ? I'm thinking some Atlantic Wall gun emplacement / bunker complex . Cool
We did mention in HINT #1: This will be a RESIN based project and is going to be one of the largest pieces of machinery on a wargame table!
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Maybe the Leopold railway gun
(https://s33.postimg.cc/6ic8pb8cb/81_NKj-br_Fe_L._SL1500.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6ic8pb8cb/)
Or , no you wouldn't be this crazy , Dora
(https://s33.postimg.cc/9cfe2uajf/Dora_cgi.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9cfe2uajf/)
Damm , the thread tittle says for the Allies , so not German RR guns then . What did the Allies have that was large ? Boats ?
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A radar station? A V2 launcher?
It's the connection with the beach obstacles that's confusing me...
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Action News: The hedgehogs are going to be the extras for this coastal defense fort.
(https://www.super-hobby.com/zdjecia/2/2/8/6143_3-auto_downl.jpg)
No not really. Even though this could be resin aw well as a piece that can only be used in a certain scenario, I wouldn't consider a coastal defense fort to be considered "largest pieces of machinery".
Besides, the coastal defense fort pictured above is from Airfix and is in 1:72 scale (or was it 1:76th?)
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The title mentions Allies, and that is a German installation.
My guess is a landing craft.
Rubicon has no vehicles suitable as bases for Hobart's Funnies (okay BARV).
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Or some fire support.
Did you get a chance to go to HMS Belfast when you were over here?
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IRC Empress makes a German U Boat in 28mm, so why not a Destroyer like the HMS Belfast ? . Don't know if I could afford it ,or where I would put , but it would be cool to have
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The coastal defense fort was just me trying to be playful.
As for an Allied item that will go with hedgehogs as well as be a "largest pieces of machinery", the only guess I can think of at this time is some sort of landing craft. Probably one for tanks like an LCT (landing craft, tank, or tank landing craft). Even though this will fit the "largest pieces of machinery" hint, it just might be too big for a project.
Waiting for another hint from RM that will give us a clue as to if it will be a vehicle or not.
Did you get a chance to go to HMS Belfast when you were over here?
Yes.
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I doubt it will be an LCT. Landing Craft, Tanks were 152 feet long and 29 feet wide.
Far more likely it would be an LCVP. Landing Craft, Vehicle, Personnel were a mere 36 feet 3" long, and 10 feet, 10" wide. Could carry a platoon of 36 men, or a vehicle up to 6,000 pounds (Jeeps and such).
Or one of the versions of the LCM. Landing Craft Mechanized. These were used from early days (Norway, Dieppe) onward. Came in a variety of configurations, capable of holding various loadouts. LCM-1 and LCM-2 could carry a 13 ton tank or a lot of troops, They were 45 feet long and 14 feet wide. LCM-3 was a bit longer (50 feet) and could carry a 30,000 pound vehicle.
Since Rubicon now have worked on LVTs (which were 26 feet long and 10 feet, 8" wide, next step up from that would be an LCVP I would think. About the same width, nearly twice the length.
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M12 self propelled artillery. You would just need a upgrade kit for the M4 chassis they already have.
Sure a Grant/Lee kit could be in the works. You could get an M31 out of it too.
Then again how about the 155mm Long Tom artillery and the M4 towing vehicle.
Wait, the M7 Priest which can also be made into the Canadian Kangaroo Armored Personnel Carrier.
Though a towed 105 mm howitzer or 155 mm howitzer would make those cargo trucks more useful.
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We have several hints from Rubicon:
It is for the Allies (note: didn't say Americans or British or Canadians, etc., but "Allies", implying multiple nations used it)
Hedgehogs are the "cover" for the project (I think that implies sea landings)
Largest piece of machinery (not "weapon") they have done
Only useful in specific scenarios (again, I take this to mean sea landings)
It will be done in resin
So the above rules out any form of tank or tank destroyer or self-propelled artillery, as they are all weapons. I really think it must be a landing craft of some sort.
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So the above rules out any form of tank or tank destroyer or self-propelled artillery, as they are all weapons. I really think it must be a landing craft of some sort.
Yes, I agree. And it's something that can be done (well) in resin - with the inevitable metal details (is it just me, or are resin/metal hybrid kits the worst of both worlds?).
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A bridge-laying tank would be machinery, and with deployed bridge option would also be a large piece of scenery!
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I think Rubicon could do a good job of a resin / metal landing craft . True some resin / metal kits are really bad ( old BA tanks kits ) , but that's from over use and age of the molds . Rubicon have a mold replacement / retool program in effect on the plastic kit side of their line , and I don't see them ignoring the resin / metal side a couple years on when its needed . You can get a HDF / plastic kit of a LVCP from Corsec Eng . if your in need of one right now . I added a few bits a pieces to mine, HO scale train stuff , plastic strip and Rubicon 30 cal MGs . If Rubicon does make one I'll turn mine into a beached wreck scenery piece
(https://s33.postimg.cc/fnqkjfl7f/IMG_20180708_203203209.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fnqkjfl7f/)
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We have to reveal the Higgins LCM-3 as our new resin project. This post is already on page 3... This is by far the largest resin piece we have done under the Rubicon Models name.
The LCM (Landing Craft Mechanized) already exists before the Second World War, under different versions. The LCM-3 is developed in two different versions: cargo and troop transport. Its tactical role is to increase the firepower of a landed force. Indeed, the LCM-3 is capable of embarking and disembarking a 30-ton tank, which can subsequently support the infantry as close as possible during an amphibious assault.
Capable of reaching the 10 knots, it can also carry, in place of a tank, 60 equipped soldiers, almost double of an LCVP.
In appearance very similar to the LCVP which Higgins Industries also constructed, with a 10-foot (3.0m) wide load area at the front and a small armoured (1/4 inch steel) wheelhouse on the aft decking over the engine room.
The LCM saw service in both the European and Pacific Theaters. More than 8,600 LCM(3)s were produced by the war's end. BTW, 486 LCMs were used during Operation Overlord.
Specification:
Displacement: 52 tons (loaded); 23 tons (empty)
Length: 50 feet (15.25m)
Beam: 14 feet (4.3m)
Draft: 3 feet (0.91m) (forward); 4 feet (1.2m) (aft)
Propulsion: 2 Diesel engines, 110-225 hp
Weight: 25,000 kg
Speed (loaded): 8 knots (9.2 mph)
Speed (empty): 11 knots (13 mph)
Armament: two .50-cal M2 Browning machine guns
Crew: 4 (1 coxwain, 1 engineer, 2 crew members)
Transport Capacity: One 30-ton tank (e.g. M4 Sherman), 60 troops, or 60,000 lb (27,000 kg) of cargo
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Enjoy!
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Very impressive. And a great addition to the forthcoming range of Amtracs and Amtanks.
Would it be possible to do the smaller details in plastic rather than metal?
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Would it be possible to do the smaller details in plastic rather than metal?
We might look into doing an LCVP later, it is a smaller boat... will see how it goes! Problem with these type of projects are the parts are too large and pricy to make moulds.
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It looks like my Sarissa one will not get repaired but might get a Viking funeral ^__^.
Nice looking piece of kit. Please look carefully at the ramp hinge, I am sure you will have something stronger than the MDF pegs of the Sarissa version.
I wonder if the vents, bollards, life rings etc would be common enough to be worth doing in plastic rather than metal.
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I wonder if the vents, bollards, life rings etc would be common enough to be worth doing in plastic rather than metal.
That's what I meant - and the machine guns. I realise that the vessel itself would be very expensive to do in plastic.
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The LCM-3 is just too tiny a niche to invest in a plastic version and the smaller parts had no real usage for other vehicles as well, justifying them to be done in plastic. Finer and smaller parts will be in pewter to make sure they are sturdy and more durable; at least that's the plan for now.
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Looks like it'll make for a cool model, though, as you say, a bit niche.
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That was going to be my next choice.
It's obvious everyone is going to need at least a pair.
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This is what our resin LCM(3) will look like... 3D prototype of our design. We are currently making design changes to it so that it can be more user-friendly during the assembling process. Once done, we will proceed to do the masters and ready for duplication.
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LCM3%20Prototype%20180708-01_zpswguexubk.jpg)
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Enjoy!
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Nice.
Have you set up an IKEA style test rig to test the robustness of the ramp hinge ^___^.
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Very cool! Will leave the various MDF type options to in its wake! 8)
Some minor points on the labelling of parts (since, unlike tanks, this is something I know about :P), what you have down as "mooring bitt" should be called a "cleat" and the "chock" is a "fairlead".
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Does look very cool . I'm just worried about how much this is going to co$t me . Any idea of a price range for this beauty ?
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JTFM do a LCVP in resin for CA$40, so as this is bigger I’d guess something above that.
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Before we can move the LCM(3) project to the next phase, we have to wait for the crew sculpts to get done... and here they are!
We had spent a lot of time to create these dynamic posed crew because the LCM(3) is expected to cost a lot to produce! ::)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LCM3%20Crew%20180825-01_zpsjhsbjrog.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LCM3%20Crew%20180825-02_zpsz2vcnp8a.jpg)
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(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LCM3%20Crew%20180825-04_zpsus8e01vk.jpg)
Enjoy!
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Very good poses. The faces still need to be more animated, to match the urgency of the poses.
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Very nice, I'll start cutting up plastic rod for empty cartridge casings now then.
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Very action like poses . I think the helmsman would be wearing a helmet as well , or at least his battered and bent sailor's cap . His rain hat makes him look like he's captaining a tuna boat IMO ;D
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Nice.
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Will the crew be metal or resin?
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Commercial test casting run for our resin LCM(3)!
No retail pricing yet, the production cost is quite pricey; might do a limited run only for those who are interested.
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Resin/LCM3%20Resin%20181129-01_zps8xbuoixk.jpg)
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(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Resin/LCM3%20Resin%20181129-07_zpsazypce6h.jpg)
Just to remind how the assembled LCM-3 looks like, and with crew...
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Resin/LCM3%20Resin%20181129-08_zpsbwefprfh.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Resin/LCM3%20Resin%20181129-09_zps7p5x3vbt.jpg)
Enjoy!
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That looks nice.
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Wow ! Didn't really think I would be interested in one of these , I was wrong . Guess I better start saving my pop bottle money
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This is a painted sample from our commercial production run... once we have the resin & pewter cleaned and packed, together with the assembly instructions, the LCM(3) will be ready for sales!
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Resin/LCM3%20Painted%20190102-01_zps8roeau5c.jpg)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/Resin/LCM3%20Painted%20190102-02_zpsagqvmti0.jpg)
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Enjoy!
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What an amazing model.
Well done Rubicon. :)
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Nice model.
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Just an awesome looking kit . I assume the crew are wearing oilskins ( ? ) over their uniforms ? And would a head swap to a Brit type tin helmet or Naval cap ( what do they cal those things ? ) suffice to convert them to a Brit / Canadian crew ?
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From community feedback, we know the outlook of a product is very important, it had to be nice but practical. This is our solution for the Higgins LCM(3)...
Three layers of foam with cutouts to protect parts from getting damaged.
- no bubble plastic wraps!
All resin parts are factory cleaned and ready for immediate assembly. No additional cleaning required!
- no big block of extra resin sticking out from the parts!
Come with A4-size assembly instruction. All parts are clearly labelled preceded by either a letter R for resin or M for metal.
- no IQ test required.
A special assembly jig (R14) is included to make sure your LCM hull assembly is perfect!
- ease of assembly, perfect every time!
The LCM(3) will be available soon as a limited release!
- is going to be a little bit expensive ;)
(http://i1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag377/RubiconModels/LVT/LCM3%20Packaging%20190109-01_zpsy5k6iqem.jpg)
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Enjoy!
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Beautiful!
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really really impressive
now..... there is just that one question .....£? ;)
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That is well thought out.
My only comment would be that making the box suitable to hold the completed model would be nice.
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Looks very nice but I suspect the price is going to put it out of reach of most wargamers, unless they just want to put one on the shelf and admire it. An invasion fleet might require a mortgage on the house!
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I’m sure it will be a quality product, but I had thought that Rubicon was going to make resin / metal hybrid kits a thing of the past.
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I’m sure it will be a quality product, but I had thought that Rubicon was going to make resin / metal hybrid kits a thing of the past.
Plastic injection moulds are too expensive for limited run items. You had to see our resin (and its metal parts) to appreciate the quality and efforts that we have put into the product. :D
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It's totally understandable with a kit of this size; it would be crazy to do it in plastic. But putting out resin / metal hybrids of more modestly sized subjects seems like a backward step.
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It's totally understandable with a kit of this size; it would be crazy to do it in plastic. But putting out resin / metal hybrids of more modestly sized subjects seems like a backward step.
Is this a hint towards the Italian tank? (different post and thread)
BTW, I agree with Pinky.
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I don’t see how it’s a backwards step? If anything it’s progressing and improving on resin?
It’s purely a investment vs return calculation. Will we sell enough of these to justify a plastic mould? No? Let’s do it in resin so people can still get hold it it.
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I think it is hard to know how these decisions "could" play out if a different path is taken.
On the one hand, making an Italian tank in resin certainly turns away people who would have gone for a kit in plastic. But that still leaves you with people who want that tank, and how badly do they want it? Enough to get it in resin? Or will they wait? And because some sales will be made in resin, does that lower the potential market later for a plastic kit?
I am still happy to see Rubicon get behind the Italian forces, anc come out with something, even if it is resin. I would definitely get one in plastic, and replace my resin Warlord kit. But it would need to be a HUGE improvement over my Warlord version to replace one resin with a different resin.
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Have to had a Rubicon French tank in your hand? They’re bloody good!
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IRC both French tanks and the car are Neufield ( Neufeld ? ) resin kits whose masters Rubicon picked up when Nuefield went belly up . The Car has been reworked by Rubicon's resin team and now has an interior ( seats /driver ) as opposed to the solid original . I was hoping Rubicon might pick up Neufields Otter personal carrier ( used by UK , Canada , Poles )as it was an excellent looking kit . No luck finding it any where . The paper panzer tank is Rubicon's own if IRC , a very nice kit . I wonder if some of the Nuefield team now work for Rubicon ?